Hi all - have been lurking on both the dasBlog and Subtext dev lists for a
while now (made a tiny patch contribution to Subtext ages ago). Have also
been watching BlogEngine.Net for a while now as well.
Seems that the MSFT flavour has grown on both the Subtext and dasBlog lists.
:-)
Also seems to me that there are a bunch of extremely talented people on all
projects.
With so many developers sharing the same desires and goals, I couldn't help
but wonder about a new project based on the combined efforts of a merged
dasBlog and Subtext team.
The key as Phil points out below - would be "strong leadership in the design
phase" with the right people at its core, along with a good voting system.
Something very cool might come out of a project like this. It would
definitely be a 'people' challenge in the first phase as opposed to a
technological one; but just might be worth it.
My 0.00002 cents worth at the beginning of 2008.
Best regards,
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: subtext-devs-bounces@...
[mailto:subtext-devs-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Phil Haack
Sent: 04 December 2007 16:42
To: subtext-devs@...
Subject: Re: [Subtext-devs] Random thoughts on Subtext
Personally, I kinda like the MVC idea for selfish reasons.
1. My new employer is a hard mistress and works me to the bone. It's leaving
me less time for Subtext.
2. An MVC rewrite is at least tangentially related to my job. I could
probably spend a bit of company time at least supporting the rewrite
(explaining things, etc...).
3. A rewrite is perhaps long overdue anyways. We could still pull in code
from Subtext 1.9, BlogEngine.NET, and DasBlog (dontcha love compatible OSS
license?).
4. It'd be sexy and as Ray says, perhaps get people fired up for
contributing again. :)
Challenges:
1. Starting from scratch is tough. We need strong leadership in the design
phase (data model).
2. At the risk of being a shill, I'd want to use Linq to SQL. I hear there's
a MySql provider for it.
3. Which DI framework should we use? Spring.NET, Castle Windsor,
StructureMap?
4. We absolutely should come out with another release of Subtext 1.9 then
and continue to fix bugs and support it. Perhaps we could basically copy
BlogEngine's current extension framework and shore up our trackback/spam
handling. It's nice how you can embed stuff in your blog post. Let's write
less code and just steal. ;)
Phil
Ray Booysen wrote:
> Definitely like the MVC idea. Would be a good way to get more people
> involved in Subtext too.
>
> On 12/3/07, *Simone Chiaretta* < simone@...
> <mailto:simone@...>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> In the last day a few ideas and thoughts came to my mind about
> Subtext, so here they are in random order:
>
>
>
> 1 - Subtext 2.0 - Plugin Model
>
> We are a bit behind the schedule, and the 2 big things, Membership
> and Plugins are half baked. I was thinking, since we want to share
> the plugin model with other blogging engine, and since probably it
> will takes us a few months to release the 2.0 we planned, why
> don't we use the new AddIn framework (new since it's new from NET
> 3.5) to manage the loading/versioning/discovery/isolation/etc of
> Subtext plugins?
>
> This will help a lot with all the infrastructural work that is
> still missing (versioning and isolation) and will be easier to
> implement by other blogging engine since it's a standard MS
> programming model
>
>
>
> 2 - Subtext 3.0 (?) - MVC
>
> As everybody knows, this week the new ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET> MVC
> framework will see the light in CTP version.
>
> Since we are lucky to have Phil, we could also make a step
> forward, skip one major version, and do a complete rewrite of both
> the backend and the frontend on the MVC framework: this way we
> build up a lot of personal knowledge on MVC ASP.NET
> <http://ASP.NET> and also be the first big app build on top of it
> (and this could be a good marketing thing)
>
>
>
> 3 - Big Portals on Subtext, or, how to deal with spam and DoS
> attacks
>
> Today we were forced to shut down ugidotnet blog portal due to a
> spam attack:
>
> The huge number of requests (coming from a botnet) turned the site
> down:
>
> They were trying to send spam trackbacks, and but even with
> trackback disable, everytime a comment or trackback was sent,
> Subtext had to check on the DB and then Akismet to enable or not
> the posting. And this caused the site to go down.
>
> I guess we might need to add some anti DoS techniques that can be
> applied at site level and that will not need Subtext to go and hit
> the DB.
>
> Just thinking out loud: an HttpModule that prevent frequent
> trackbacks from the same ipaddress. Or something similar.
>
> Again, the HostAdmin doesn't work with 1000 Blogs, since the list
> can only be paginated 20 rows per page, and there is no search to
> look for a blog name among 1000 blog sites.
>
>
>
> Any comments?
>
>
>
> Simo
>
>
>
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