Can I get a fileout of your image, or do you perhaps have a Monticello
On 1/18/07, Todd Blanchard <tblanchard@...> wrote:
> I replied to him, but I should have copied the list.
> I have finished updating the .cs files for glorp itself and gotten the
> non-portable stuff from the vw file implemented in Squeak. So the basic
> 'port' is more or less 'done' except for the tests. It seems to work based
> on a few rather trivial tests but you never know until the tests are brought
> in and run.
> I'm working on those now and then I want to do the store for glorp and
> find a way to automate most of what I did so it is lots easier to keep up to
> date. Given my other commitments, I'm hoping for a finished port next week
> -Todd Blanchard
> On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:17 AM, Alan Knight wrote:
> Todd Blanchard was taking a look at updating the port, but I'm not sure
> what his status is. Last message was about a week ago, and he had it mostly
> loaded into Squeak, but needed a few of the port-specific methods in their
> VW versions that had been updated.
> It's often a mistake to attribute a coherent set of opinions to
> corporations. But insofar as Cincom could be said to have an overall
> opinion, it's more like "gateway drug". Which doesn't mean Cincom management
> is going to go particularly far out of their way to mandate Cincom people
> spending time porting stuff to Squeak. I think it's more a matter of
> allowing it (not that that's an issue in the case of Glorp anyway, as it's
> open source, not Cincom IP), and if people are particularly interested,
> someone will port it. And as far as Glorp in particular, I've never received
> any instructions on the matter from higher up, so it's a matter of what I
> have time to do and feel like doing. It was very nice when Radoslav was
> maintaining the port with no work on my part, but since he stopped I haven't
> gotten around to doing anything about it, and the one time I took a quick
> look into Squeak I got frustrated by not knowing my way around the tools.
> On the "competitor front" <grin>, I note that there is a Cincom
> non-commercial license, which is the full product, is not time-limited in
> any way, and is often used by people who are starting out projects before
> they've become fully commercial. In those cases it serves as a bit of an
> extended evaluation, but since Cincom's licensing is based primarily on
> deployment anyway, it works out reasonably well. It might be worth talking
> to a Cincom sales person, or perhaps better, to Jim Robertson, the product
> manager, if that's interesting for you.
> At 05:48 PM 1/17/2007, Jeremy Shute wrote:
> On 1/17/07, *Simon Kirk* < simon.kirk@...> wrote:
> Hi Jeremy.
> I was talking more specifically about the version of GLORP on
> SqueakMap (which is at 0.3.138 compared to 0.4.67 as latest VW
> version is at the moment - a considerable difference).
> I would love to be up-to-date, I just have no idea how to get 0.4.67 into
> a Squeak image.
> What does Cincom HQ think of Squeak, anyway? Is it a "competitor", or is
> it a "gateway drug"? I think a license would look a lot cheaper to my
> company if we were already making cash from Smalltalk. To me it seems
> Squeak support for these libraries should be a priority in changing the
> argument from "Smalltalk vs. Java" to "Smalltalk Cheap vs. Smalltalk Good".
> On the other
> hand what you're doing is very interesting, too. Do you mean you're
> developing a DatabaseAccessor implementation for MySQL? I didn't know
> there was a decent native Squeak MySQL driver out there.
> That's already done. I have about half the GLORP unit tests passing.
> It's slow going.
> There isn't a "decent" driver, just a driver. I got the old Jdm driver
> port to work with MySQL 5.0 (right now I have to set the login's password
> with the OLD_PASSWORD MySQL function). That's just part of the fun.
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