yaws

>   Has  there been any nicely tight and well-written Wikis for Yaws written
>   yet? I know there's a rather fine one in more standard inets Erlang, but
>   ... Yaws?

There is one in the standard distribution of Yaws under
applications/wiki. I don't know a bout tight and well-written though :-)

/Johan

Alexander Williams <thantos@...> writes:

> erlyaws-list@...:
>
>   Has  there been any nicely tight and well-written Wikis for Yaws writ=
ten
>   yet? I know there's a rather fine one in more standard inets Erlang, =
but
>   ... Yaws?

Yes.
The Wiki application has already been converted for Yaws. It is in the
standard Yaws distribution under the applications/wiki directory. You
can compile it and install it in your yaws directory.

The design has been improved to make it more appealing.
You can see it runnning at:

http://www.neolineas.com/wiki/showPage.yaws?node=3Dhome

Havef fun,

--=20
Micka=EBl R=E9mond
http://www.erlang-projects.org/

Isn't that included in the Yaws distro?
See this as an example:

 http://guitar.tnt.homeunix.org/

Cheers , Tobbe

Alexander Williams wrote:

>erlyaws-list@...:
>
>  Has  there been any nicely tight and well-written Wikis for Yaws written
>  yet? I know there's a rather fine one in more standard inets Erlang, but
>  ... Yaws?
>
>  
>

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mickael Remond" <mickael.remond@...>
> To: "Alexander Williams" <thantos@...>
> Cc: <erlyaws-list@...>
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 8:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Erlyaws-list] Yaws Wiki?
>

> Alexander Williams <thantos@...> writes:
>
> > erlyaws-list@...:
> >
> >   Has  there been any nicely tight and well-written Wikis for Yaws
written
> >   yet? I know there's a rather fine one in more standard inets Erlang,
but
> >   ... Yaws?
>
> Yes.
> The Wiki application has already been converted for Yaws. It is in the
> standard Yaws distribution under the applications/wiki directory. You
> can compile it and install it in your yaws directory.
>
> The design has been improved to make it more appealing.
> You can see it runnning at:
>
> http://www.neolineas.com/wiki/showPage.yaws?node=home

Hey thats me :-)

I have some improvements to the wiki pending (time, motivation, etc) to try
and get Google et al indexing it. Specifically the ability to specify META
tags, and possibly allowing the .yaws extension to be overridden/added to.
I've tried twice to get Google to recognise .yaws as being equivalent to
.shtml, .php etc but I've had no response beyond the automated "we'll get
back to you eventually" one.

Other than that its working well. There seems to be an odd bit missing
(password reminders, for example, seem half implemented in the version I'm
running), but I'm really happy to be running an Apache-free website.

/Bruce

Monday, May 12, 2003, 4:30:37 AM, Bruce wrote:

BF> Other than that its working well. There seems to be an odd bit missing
BF> (password reminders, for example, seem half implemented in the version
BF> I'm  running),  but  I'm  really  happy  to  be running an Apache-free
BF> website.

  For  the  record,  I now have it up and running with minimal fuss and no
  muss at all, and am quite pleased with the whole thing. Only bit I might
  suggest  adding  somehow  is  a  way  to  declare the following block is
  indented in some way, when Notes are too much and its awkward to try and
  indent or such (as in an example code-block).

  Spiff!

--          Alexander          Williams         (thantos@...)
============================================================================
"You  are  a  devil!" she sobbed. "Not I!" he laughed. "I was born on this
planet  long  ago.  Once,  I  was  a common man, nor have I lost all human
attributes in the numberless aeons of my adeptship. A human steeped in the
dark  arts is greater than a devil." -- RE Howard, The People of the Black
Circle

erlyaws-list@...:

  Is  there  any interest in discussing the handful of bugs I've run into
  in   this   over  the  past,  say,  week?  Few  of  them,  if  any,  are
  show-stoppers, mostly just little glitches.

  The header doesn't actually go red background on a locked page.

  Node links aren't actually made red if the node hasn't been created yet.

  There  probably needs to be a way to insert header-like tags. Perhaps by
  using = as a bracket (like *).

  Just a few random bits that came to mind.

-- 
Alexander Williams (thantos@...)
============================================================================
  "You are a devil!" she sobbed.
  "Not I!" he laughed. "I was born on this planet long ago. Once, I was
a common man, nor have I lost all human attributes in the numberless
aeons of my adeptship. A human steeped in the dark arts is greater
than a devil."
                        -- RE Howard, The People of the Black Circle

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Williams" <thantos@...>
To: <erlyaws-list@...>
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 6:33 PM
Subject: [Erlyaws-list] Yaws Wiki?


> erlyaws-list@...:
>
>   Is  there  any interest in discussing the handful of bugs I've run into
>   in   this   over  the  past,  say,  week?  Few  of  them,  if  any,  are
>   show-stoppers, mostly just little glitches.


Yeah. Fix 'em and I'll be happy :-) Do you want help, or are you just asking
if there is demand?

The header tag idea is especially good, I wasn't sure if that was
possible -- I haven't spelunked the wiki code at all yet. That'd fix my META
problems.

/Bruce

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Williams" <thantos@...>
To: "Bruce Fitzsimons" <Bruce@...>
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 6:47 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [Erlyaws-list] Yaws Wiki?


> Friday, May 16, 2003, 2:42:02 AM, Bruce wrote:
>
> BF> Yeah.  Fix 'em and I'll be happy :-) Do you want help, or are you just
> BF> asking if there is demand?
>
>   Well, if I had the innate skill to do that, yet, it'd be done. ;)

Ok, thats cool. I just wasn't clear what you wanted. If someones in a good
mood you might find them magically fixed RSN.

>   =H3=
>
>   ==H2==
>
>   ===H1===
>
>   That sort of format should hook things up right fine.

Ahh, we're talking at cross-purposes. I want a tag to let me throw stuff
into the HTML <head></head> section. I will stop talking about it and do it
soon. But its the weekend, and theres other things in meatspace to do at the
moment.

Headers is good too, I've wanted that. Although its easy just to escape to
HTML and do that directly -- you're aware of that possibility?

/Bruce

Friday, May 16, 2003, 3:01:53 AM, Bruce wrote:

BF> Headers  is  good  too,  I've  wanted  that. Although its easy just to
BF> escape  to  HTML  and  do  that  directly  --  you're  aware  of  that
BF> possibility?

  Oh,  yes, but it seems vaguely awkwardly redundant given so much else of
  the HTML is seamlessly integrated into the system.

-- 
Alexander Williams (thantos@...)
============================================================================
  "You are a devil!" she sobbed.
  "Not I!" he laughed. "I was born on this planet long ago. Once, I was
a common man, nor have I lost all human attributes in the numberless
aeons of my adeptship. A human steeped in the dark arts is greater
than a devil."
                        -- RE Howard, The People of the Black Circle

Alexander Williams <thantos@...> writes:

> erlyaws-list@...:
>
>   Is  there  any interest in discussing the handful of bugs I've run in=
to
>   in   this   over  the  past,  say,  week?  Few  of  them,  if  any,  =
are
>   show-stoppers, mostly just little glitches.

Please, go ahead.

>   Just a few random bits that came to mind.

Do not hesitate to submit the others bugs. I will see if I find what
should be changed in the code.

Thank you !

--=20
Micka=EBl R=E9mond
http://www.erlang-projects.org/

> > erlyaws-list@...:
> >
> >   Is  there  any interest in discussing the handful of bugs I've run into
> >   in   this   over  the  past,  say,  week?  Few  of  them,  if  any,  are
> >   show-stoppers, mostly just little glitches.
> 
> Please, go ahead.
> 
> >   Just a few random bits that came to mind.
> 
> Do not hesitate to submit the others bugs. I will see if I find what
> should be changed in the code.

Or send them to me. I'm the one who wrote it (based on Joe's old Wiki)
and maintains it (others are more than welcome to contribute however!)

>   =H3=
>
>   ==H2==
>
>   ===H1===
>
>   That sort of format should hook things up right fine.

Fixed. =Txt= will result in <h3>Txt</h3> etc.

/Johan

Friday, May 16, 2003, 7:11:56 AM, Johan wrote:

JB> Fixed. =Txt= will result in <h3>Txt</h3> etc.

  Excellent! Where's the best place to grab the updated files? :)

  (Strangely,  I'm  hoping  that  its  fairly  easy  to  update the thing.
  Recompiling and reinstalling the ebin directory, and replacing the .yaws
  files in each wiki dir should do it.)

-- 
Alexander Williams (thantos@...)
============================================================================
  "You are a devil!" she sobbed.
  "Not I!" he laughed. "I was born on this planet long ago. Once, I was
a common man, nor have I lost all human attributes in the numberless
aeons of my adeptship. A human steeped in the dark arts is greater
than a devil."
                        -- RE Howard, The People of the Black Circle

> JB> Fixed. =Txt= will result in <h3>Txt</h3> etc.
> 
>   Excellent! Where's the best place to grab the updated files? :)

Sourceforge CVS (http://yaws.hyber.org/configuration.yaws).

>   (Strangely,  I'm  hoping  that  its  fairly  easy  to  update the thing.
>   Recompiling and reinstalling the ebin directory, and replacing the .yaws
>   files in each wiki dir should do it.)

Yes, and updating the custom.css for the 'red menu on locked page'
fix.

/Johan

Friday, May 16, 2003, 8:11:47 AM, Johan wrote:

JB> Yes,  and  updating  the  custom.css for the 'red menu on locked page'
JB> fix.

  Just a note, the CVS update works very, very neatly indeed.

  This  is  where  I  get  that  faraway  look  in  my eyes and wish for a
  wikiUpdater  that, given a directory, will update the files in it to the
  most  recent version and do any other needed gyrations in the process of
  the update? (Fearing the day something gets added that makes it sensible
  to change the wob file structure ...)

-- 
Alexander Williams (thantos@...)
============================================================================
  "You are a devil!" she sobbed.
  "Not I!" he laughed. "I was born on this planet long ago. Once, I was
a common man, nor have I lost all human attributes in the numberless
aeons of my adeptship. A human steeped in the dark arts is greater
than a devil."
                        -- RE Howard, The People of the Black Circle

> JB> Yes,  and  updating  the  custom.css for the 'red menu on locked page'
> JB> fix.
> 
>   Just a note, the CVS update works very, very neatly indeed.
> 
>   This  is  where  I  get  that  faraway  look  in  my eyes and wish for a
>   wikiUpdater  that, given a directory, will update the files in it to the
>   most  recent version and do any other needed gyrations in the process of
>   the update? (Fearing the day something gets added that makes it sensible
>   to change the wob file structure ...)

You are right. I've been through the same process numerous times but
never had the energy to do anything about it. Now I have :-)

I've added a script "updateWiki.sh" which takes a number of wiki
directories as argument. If a directory is empty all necessary files
will be copied. For existing wiki directories all changed files will
be backed up with todays date as suffix.

/Johan

Friday, May 16, 2003, 3:51:33 PM, Johan wrote:

JB> I've  added  a  script  "updateWiki.sh"  which  takes a number of wiki
JB> directories  as  argument. If a directory is empty all necessary files
JB> will  be  copied. For existing wiki directories all changed files will
JB> be backed up with todays date as suffix.

  Can I just say, you are a god among men? :)

  Now,  let  me see ... other random things that might go on the wish-list
  ...

  Well, there's always the "email me pages that are updated" feature (that
  might  be  more  than  a small modification, of course -- on the extreme
  end,  you  likely  want  some kind of daily digest version of that as an
  option).

  Possibly a "dated entry" that has a specific lifetime as set my the page
  creator.  Like the dated entry model we have now, just with expiry. That
  is,  actually, a lot harder than it may seem, I suppose, unless you just
  did  the  cleanup  at  the next entry. That would likely suffice for any
  practical use.

  Some  sort  of  dynamically  generated  Activity Page that lists all the
  pages in the DB with activity in the past X and how much activity? Seems
  a shame to have all the dynamic power of Yaws and NOT do that.

  Possibly  its  time  to  consider  migrating the individual page storage
  system  into  some  kind  of unified dets storage, if only for the sheer
  speed  increase? Going as far as full-bore mnesia would be overkill, but
  surely  something  else  is feasible. (I recognize that keeping multiple
  wiki  on  the  same server seperated could be awkward -- might need some
  kind  of wiki-specific config file that names it uniquely (and maybe has
  room for future expansion things).

  I suddenly realize my role in life -- perverse muse. :)

-- 
Alexander Williams (thantos@...)
============================================================================
  "You are a devil!" she sobbed.
  "Not I!" he laughed. "I was born on this planet long ago. Once, I was
a common man, nor have I lost all human attributes in the numberless
aeons of my adeptship. A human steeped in the dark arts is greater
than a devil."
                        -- RE Howard, The People of the Black Circle

Alexander Williams <thantos@...> writes:

>   Some  sort  of  dynamically  generated  Activity Page that lists all the
>   pages in the DB with activity in the past X and how much activity? Seems
>   a shame to have all the dynamic power of Yaws and NOT do that.

Yes. And we could also add on the list the number of hits for a given
page. This information is already stored by Yaws (see the stats
dynamic page), so we could just use it...

Cheers,

-- 
Mickaël Rémond
http://www.erlang-projects.org/