On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:04:02 -0500
Tony Carr <carrt7@...> wrote:
> (HP530 laptop, Win7, Audacity 1.3.14B)
> (Yes, I will upgrade soon!)
> Audacity does three rather counter-intuitive things relating to track
> (a) I display a stereo track and a label track, and have the stereo track
> selected and in focus (i.e. the yellow box is around the stereo track, the
> header of the stereo track (but not of the label track) is blue-grey, and
> no part of the track is dark grey. (Sorry this description is clumsy.)
> (b) I click on the timer track to start playing, I press "[" and later "]"
> to select a portion of music by ear, and hit SPACE to stop play. Then I
> press "CTL-B" and type in a name for the label, and hit ENTER.
> Now I attempt to repeat the process from (a), to select and label the next
> bit of music, but Audacity fails me! It does something very odd indeed,
> ending up by labelling a point in my track with the label "] " and
> refusing to stop playing!
> After experimenting, I realized this is because, after I hit ENTER,
> Audacity has left the focus (yellow box) around the label track - even
> though I am now playing the stereo track and clearly MY attention is
> focussed there. I have to manually refocus Audacity on the stereo track,
> using SHIFT and the up/down keys.
This problem arises because there is a competing feature requirement
(strongly supported by one of the developers) to be able to type in
the label track when it has the yellow focus border, without first using
the CTRL + B shortcut.
We've partially fixed some of the conflicts this problem creates, but
IMO the only clean solution is to make "type at once in the focused
label track" a preference, or find some other way to indicate to the
label track that it should accept keyboard input without CTRL + B
So you'll have to adapt your workflow. For example, hold CTRL then
click in the waveform to start playback at the click point.
By the way, after ENTER to complete the label, UP arrow is sufficient
(without SHIFT) to move focus to the audio track. Using SHIFT with UP
or DOWN arrow extends selectedness into the the unselected track
you're moving focus into. Without SHIFT, there are no selectedness
> (2) If I complete step B, with my labelled portion of music selected
> (darkened), and then attempt to use Equalization (e.g. to amplify the music
> portion), Audacity will either do nothing or apply equalization to the
> whole track!
> Again, experiment shows that this is because I have left the focus on the
> stereo track. But clearly MY focus is on the music!
I don't think so. Effects work on selections in the audio track. There
should be no problem if you ENTER once after typing the label, which
will leave the selection in the audio track (as well as the label track).
If you arranged things so that the selection is only in the label, there
is no audio selection to apply the effect to. Audacity's default
behaviour is then to select all the project audio, rather than grey out
all the effects because there is no audio selection.
If you prefer the effects to grey out when there is no audio selection,
go to the Tracks Preferences, then uncheck "Select all audio in project,
if none selected".
> (3) If I start step (b) with the focus (yellow box) on the stereo track
> but with the track NOT selected (its header is almost white), Audacity will
> allow me to "select" a portion of music with "[" and "]", and show this
> section darkened in the timer track only. If I currently have no other
> track displayed, there is no way to apply this selection to the stereo
> track, so that I may edit it!
You chose to deselect the audio track, but to reselect the audio track,
just hit ENTER.
> I have to add a label track, then use SHIFT up/down keys, in order to apply
> this selection to the stereo track. Weird, eh?
No, see above.
By the way, the "Timer Track" is better described as Timeline:
to distinguish it from Time Tracks: