On 09/10/2012 02:36 AM, Benny Malengier wrote:
> 2012/9/10 Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@... <mailto:bilwalsh@...>>
> On 09/09/2012 09:30 PM, Martin Steer wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 06:44:12PM -0500, Billie Walsh wrote:
> >> need. The issue is that it just doesn't work "for" me. I
> "need/want" to
> >> have one database that is shared over several machines [ Desktop,
> >> laptop, netbooks, etc. ] I have my database in Dropbox and can make
> >> changes on any machine and they are immediately on my other
> >> This is very problematical to do with Gramps. To my thinking
> this is the
> >> biggest downfall of Gramps.
> > Hi Billie,
> > Just curious. If you're working this way with PAF, does that
> mean that
> > the database in Dropbox is a gedcom file? If it is, why is PAF +
> > file in Dropbox better than Gramps + xml (or gedcom) file in
> > M.
> The database file is a "*****.paf" file. The native file format of
> I have no idea how it's constructed. PAF also generates a backup
> periodically, also kept in Dropbox. I do also keep a fresh .ged
> file but
> that's sort of a secondary backup.
> If you work at home with paf on, and in the library with no internet
> access, and you have changes in both places (so simultaneously),
> dropbox will not be able to sync, and you loose information. Try it.
> Working with gramps from dropbox works, but is problematic for the
> same reason.
> The only cloud computing that would work is a program that can handle
> it's own merge collisions. That does not exist for genealogy. The only
> thing that works is pure cloud, so with need of an internet
> connection, which is what gramps-connect.org
> <http://gramps-connect.org> develops.
> So, Gramps is in this respect not worse than other genealogy desktop
> apps. If you work consecutively, it goes, if you work simultaneously,
> it fails.
> Compare this to working with collegues on an excell sheet in Dropbox.
> Big problems. The only thing that works good for this is a service
> like google docs. This is precisely what gramps-connect is, but
> requires always connected to work.
If there is no access I can just bring the laptop/netbook home, or go to
a coffee shop maybe, and connect to the internet. Everything is synched
up. If I use the netbook at the county courthouse someplace away from
home when I get back to the hotel I connect and everything is synched.
We also have a Sprint wireless card with a wireless router that we
travel with. We can have several machines with internet going seventy
miles an hour down the interstate. I could synch from anywhere I can hit
a Sprint tower [ and with the amplifier and external antenna on the
sprint card that's about twenty or thirty miles range ]. There's no
possible way I can be at home and at the library at the same time so I
can't have the database open in two places at the same time. If I'm home
I wouldn't be making changes on two machines. No one else collaborates
with me on the same database.
If your even semi-intelligent synching up the computers through Dropbox
is no problem at all. Every computer I use has the latest version of the
database at all times.
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