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Moin Nico,
You mixed two lights. There are a leading light and a directional light
in the same place. . They share one mast but that does not make them one
light. IMO they should be divided in light_minor and a
beaco_nspecial_purpose but share the same location.
regards klaus.
Am Donnerstag, den 15.03.2012, 18:04 +0100 schrieb Nico Fuchs:
> Hello Developers,
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> I have here
> http://map.openseamap.org/map/?lang=de&zoom=16&lat=54.27194&lon=13.12668&layers=BFTFFFFFFTF0FFF completed a beacon.
> 
> With the presentation, I am not satisfied. I had expected a small drop
> of red for the leading light, like the rear light. What should I enter
> to get the red drop of the leading light in this case?
> 
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> Thanks in advance
> 
> Nico
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Light flares are only displayed on non-sectored lights. As Andershof 
Front is a sectored light, the sectors are displayed instead. However, 
you declared sector 1 as Directional but did not specify the 
Orientation, so the renderer was unable to display that sector.

Klaus is right, it would be better to set this mark as a special-purpose 
beacon as you have done with the rear.

There is actually a separate symbol for a lighted beacon that I did not 
use because it would have made the renderer stylesheets even bigger than 
they were. Now that I have my new pre-processor (which 'orthogonalizes' 
shapes & colours), I could add this symbol with little impact on the 
stylesheet.

I have added an Orientation of 248.6 to that sector with a small radius 
arc, so that you can see how it should look.

Hello Klaus,

thanks a lot for creating “Andershof ganz”, but the red flare is also missing?…. It is a nice hint, to use three colors for the mast! I’m not sure if I should change anything on the situation. I was reading in the Mail of Malcolm, he will perhaps add the red flare (my English is not only bad, I have none) ? 

 

Sorry for my clear statement: I doesn’t like the representation with the small arc, because the angle of visibility differs from the real visibility of the leading light. I know this, because it’s my area of boating.

 

I like this project! This is still a very large number! 

Nico

 

Von: Klaus-Hermann Otto Stanislaus Plöger [mailto:k.ploeger@...] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. März 2012 18:55
An: openseamap-develop@...
Betreff: Re: [OpenSeaMap-develop] sector and leading Light in one beacon, presentation

 

Moin Nico,
You mixed two lights. There are a leading light and a directional light in the same place. . They share one mast but that does not make them one light. IMO they should be divided in light_minor and a beaco_nspecial_purpose but share the same location.
regards klaus.
Am Donnerstag, den 15.03.2012, 18:04 +0100 schrieb Nico Fuchs: 

Hello Developers,

 

I have here http://map.openseamap.org/map/?lang=de <http://map.openseamap.org/map/?lang=de&zoom=16&lat=54.27194&lon=13.12668&layers=BFTFFFFFFTF0FFF%20> &zoom=16&lat=54.27194&lon=13.12668&layers=BFTFFFFFFTF0FFF completed a beacon.

With the presentation, I am not satisfied. I had expected a small drop of red for the leading light, like the rear light. What should I enter to get the red drop of the leading light in this case?

 

Thanks in advance

Nico

 

 

 



 
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On 16/03/2012 07:17, Nico Fuchs wrote:
> Sorry for my clear statement: I doesn’t like the representation with the
> small arc, because the angle of visibility differs from the real
> visibility of the leading light. I know this, because it’s my area of
> boating.
>

If the arc of visibility is wider, then it cannot be classed as 
"Directional". If you know the values of the visible arc from your own 
survey, then you must enter that data in order that the correct 
representation appears on the map.

In the meantime, I have re-tagged Sector 1 as an all-round light, as 
implied by the rear light tagging.

Klaus, perhaps you could translate my posts for Nico?

Hello Malcolm,
thanks for your fast answer!

>>(my English is not only bad, I have none)
> Klaus, perhaps you could translate my posts for Nico?
It's okay, I try to improve my skills in English. It's an task that I
establish only in solo play.
This sentence I used for warning, that's possible that I don't understand
your meaning completely. I would like get hints of you, if you think that I
was not clearly.
 
Back to topic:
I wish to use the flare for representation the directional light of
"Andershof Front". The Beacon that Klaus create is a
"beacon_special_purpose", but the red flare is missing.

> There is actually a separate symbol for a lighted beacon that I did not
use because it would have made the renderer stylesheets even bigger than
they were. Now that I have my new
> pre-processor (which 'orthogonalizes' shapes & colours), I could add this
symbol with little impact on the stylesheet.
I did not understand the meaning of this sentence, it is possible to insert
or not?

Weeks ago I used two major_lights, one as leading and one as directional
light. Then I moved this two points in the exact same position. But I think
this solution is not clean...

Nico

Moin
maybe Andershof is misunderstood 
Andershof  (front) is 4 seamarks, Andershof Unterfeuer sind 4
Seezeichen.
A beacon_spp_colour= white, red, white,
a directional light with: R 192,-194,8°, W -195,2, G -198°(maybe an
major light) (Sektorfeuer)
a leading light with 248,6° together with Andershof rear (Richtfeuer)
and
a daymark with a white  triangle with red border (pointing
up ).(Tageszeichen)
and also
seamark:construction=lattice (not metal like this one at
http://www.deutsche-leuchtfeuer.de/nordsee/voslapp.html {upper is at
here concrete} ) 
landmark=tower
landmark:tower:construction=lattice

Am Freitag, den 16.03.2012, 07:43 +0000 schrieb Malcolm Herring:

> On 16/03/2012 07:17, Nico Fuchs wrote:
> > Sorry for my clear statement: I doesn’t like the representation with the
> > small arc, because the angle of visibility differs from the real
> > visibility of the leading light. I know this, because it’s my area of
> > boating.
> >

Nico,

Thanks for joining. Wir brauchen dringend Menschen, die sich östlich von Travemünde auskennen.

Und:
Für klare Ansagen muß man sich nie entschuldigen.

 Klaus

> If the arc of visibility is wider, then it cannot be classed as 
> "Directional". If you know the values of the visible arc from your own 
> survey, then you must enter that data in order that the correct 
> representation appears on the map.
> In the meantime, I have re-tagged Sector 1 as an all-round light, as 
> implied by the rear light tagging.

This is no sector, it is the leading with rear. So sector 1 should be removed and retagged as leading.

> Klaus, perhaps you could translate my posts for Nico?

Of course.

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btw 
The german meaning of anders is "different", So Ganz Anders means very
different. That's why I gave that one this name. (;-)

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