iText®, a JAVA-PDF library

On 28/05/2011 9:56, jonathan MERCIER wrote:
> Dear all,
> Fedora packagers have one big problem. The code is licensing on AGPL for
> all this project?
Affirmative, iText is AGPL v3
> regards
>
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On 28/05/2011 9:56, jonathan MERCIER wrote:
> Dear all,
> Fedora packagers have one big problem.
Only 1 ? they are lucky :)
>   The code is licensing on AGPL for
> all this project?
>
> regards
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> vRanger cuts backup time in half-while increasing security.
> With the market-leading solution for virtual backup and recovery,
> you get blazing-fast, flexible, and affordable data protection.
> Download your free trial now.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-d2dcopy1
> _______________________________________________
> iText-questions mailing list
> iText-questions@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/itext-questions
>
> iText(R) is a registered trademark of 1T3XT BVBA.
> Many questions posted to this list can (and will) be answered with a reference to the iText book: http://www.itextpdf.com/book/
> Please check the keywords list before you ask for examples: http://itextpdf.com/themes/keywords.php

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On 28/05/2011 9:56, jonathan MERCIER wrote:
> Dear all,
> Fedora packagers have one big problem. The code is licensing on AGPL for
> all this project?
Yes,
we've been working with Fedore packagers in the past to resolve 
different issues.
What is the problem now? Please contact consultancy at itextpdf.com with 
your concerns.
best regards,
Bruno

On 28/05/2011 9:56, jonathan MERCIER wrote:
> Dear all,
> Fedora packagers have one big problem. The code is licensing on AGPL for
> all this project?


For more comments, read http://www.redlab.be/blog/2011/itext-questions/

The problem it seem you do not respect the AGPL license, follow the
link:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/legal/2010-August/001352.html

On 30/05/2011 10:18, jonathan MERCIER wrote:
> The problem it seem you do not respect the AGPL license, follow the
> link:
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/legal/2010-August/001352.html

This has all been discussed with the Debian packagers. After having 
consulted different attorneys (paid for by 1T3XT) the line "you must 
retain the producer line" has been changed into "a covered work must 
retain the producer line" in the latest iText release. Because of this 
small change (for which 1T3XT has paid), iText 5.1 is in full accordance 
with the AGPL.

If Fedora has a problem, then it's theirs, not ours. See the comments on 
http://www.redlab.be/blog/2011/itext-questions/
If what's good enough for Debian isn't good enough for Fedora, please 
remove all instances of iText and derived products (including PdfTk) 
from all Fedora distributions. As this is a matter of freedom and free 
choice, we'll advise people to switch from Fedora to Debian.

Is that the goal of the Powers That Be at the Fedora community?

Le lundi 30 mai 2011 à 10:42 +0200, 1T3XT BVBA a écrit :
> On 30/05/2011 10:18, jonathan MERCIER wrote:
> > The problem it seem you do not respect the AGPL license, follow the
> > link:
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/legal/2010-August/001352.html
> 
> This has all been discussed with the Debian packagers. After having 
> consulted different attorneys (paid for by 1T3XT) the line "you must 
> retain the producer line" has been changed into "a covered work must 
> retain the producer line" in the latest iText release. Because of this 
> small change (for which 1T3XT has paid), iText 5.1 is in full accordance 
> with the AGPL.
> 
> If Fedora has a problem, then it's theirs, not ours. See the comments on 
> http://www.redlab.be/blog/2011/itext-questions/
> If what's good enough for Debian isn't good enough for Fedora, please 
> remove all instances of iText and derived products (including PdfTk) 
> from all Fedora distributions. As this is a matter of freedom and free 
> choice, we'll advise people to switch from Fedora to Debian.
> 
> Is that the goal of the Powers That Be at the Fedora community?

it was just a question about policy. Like you know the goal is enhance
user experience on linux. Licensing it is an important part. You have do
some great thing, thank for this.

regards

On 30/05/2011 11:24, jonathan MERCIER wrote:
> Licensing it is an important part.

Yes, but a F/OSS license must not be used as an excuse for exploitation. 
I've seen Richard Stallman on different occasions. I don't remember him 
saying that freedom means free as in free beer. I do remember a specific 
Q&A (Ghent University, April 2, 2007). I can't repeat what was said 
literally, but this is how I remember the question and Stallman's answer:

Q: I'm a developer. I have a wife and kids. I like writing free 
software, but I need to earn money to support my family, and that 
doesn't seem to be possible if I publish my work as free software.

A: Nobody says you can't make any money with free software! Didn't you 
listen? Didn't you understand what I've been saying about free software? 
It's free as in free speech, not as in free beer! If you write free 
software and you aren't able to make any money, your work is probably 
not important enough.

Point taken. That's when I decided it was probably time to make money 
with iText.