On Sunday, October 24, 2010 13:09:38 Gale Andrews wrote:
> | From Steve the Fiddle <stevethefiddle@...>
> | Sun, 24 Oct 2010 20:40:59 +0100
> | Subject: [Audacity-quality] sync-lock button, mixer toolbar
> | sliders (was Re: [Audacity-devel] audacity trunk fails to build
> | on Ubuntu)
> > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Al Dimond
> > <businessmanprogrammersteve@...> wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 24, 2010 08:20:26 Gale Andrews wrote:
> > >> | From Vaughan Johnson <vaughan@...>
> > >> | Sat, 23 Oct 2010 18:05:57 -0700
> > >> | Subject: [Audacity-quality] sync-lock button, mixer toolbar
> > >> | sliders (was Re: [Audacity-devel] audacity trunk fails to
> > >> | build on Ubuntu)
> > >> |
> > >> > On 10/23/2010 5:15 PM, Al Dimond wrote:
> > >> > > On Saturday, October 23, 2010 12:06:44 Al Dimond wrote:
> > >> > >> On Saturday, October 23, 2010 09:15:59 Gale Andrews wrote:
> > >> > >><snip>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > > Well, I have something that I think is OK.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The icon itself:
> > >> > > http://aldimond.users.sourceforge.net/SyncLockTracks.png
> > >> > >
> > >> > > A screencap with this icon:
> > >> > > http://aldimond.users.sourceforge.net/new_synclock_icon.pn
> > >> > > g
> > >> >
> > >> > Great job on the image. But imo it takes up too much of the
> > >> > button -- knob is right at the top edge of the image. I know
> > >> > it's hard to get decent anti-aliasing at smaller sizes...
> > >>
> > >> It is a bit large, and IMHO the "rim" really is too thin now,
> > >> so much so it barely looks like the tile icon and doesn't
> > >> look comparable to the thickness of the magnifying glass
> > >> handle relative to the glass itself. And the rim still looks
> > >> a little jagged here, though far better. Wouldn't a slightly
> > >> thicker rim help make it less jagged? Steve's versions give a
> > >> much smoother representation of the rim here, even than Al's.
> > >
> > > The problem with making the rim too thick and smooth is that it
> > > breaks with the style of our other icons, which are very
> > > lightly anti- aliased. If that weren't the case I'd use what
> > > Steve had, but maybe with slightly thicker hands.
> > I agree about the break in style from the magnifier icons, but I
> > think that they could also do with a makeover.
> Yes, almost all could do with makeover though I don't think there
> is a consensus that we need to change or review all the button
> icons for 2.0. I worry about how long that will take (discussions
> more so than doing it).
> That said, I'd be surprised if there wasn't an open source set of
> high quality icons we could use as a starting point for a new set
> of our own?
There are a million sets of good Free icons. The problem is that
they're too good for us to replicate. In fact, the icons we have are
too good for us to replicate. So, to me, what we need to do (after
2.0) is not to just grab a package of icons, but to flag down the
creator of such a set and have that person extend the set to
> > Do we have a consensus for a white clock face?
> I "think" there is a consensus the "off" state must not be too
> "loud" and that if possible the TrackInfo (!) icon should have
> that colour too (which should solve it being too inconspicuous).
> A clock face isn't transparent like a magnifying glass, so I don't
> see it "has" to be white. But if white or off-white works also in
> TrackInfo, go for it.
Right now the icon is going to look the same whether the button is in
or out. I haven't checked whether or not that's easy to change. If it
is, consider the typical appearance of such buttons on a physical
system -- they have a light that turns on when the feature is enabled.
I would have the clock's face "glow" white or "dim" grey depending on
button state, without other aspects like the hands or rim being greyed
-- as long as it's not hard to add in a state-dependent icon change.
Currently, I'm using a checkerboard of white and very light grey for
most of the clock face, so that I can put a very slight highlight in
the lower-right by removing the grey pixels. I'm not sure how effective
that is in reality, though.
Here's some new stuff; the clock is a little smaller and the rim is a
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