Celestia

You know, I was thinking about this just this morning. Nice
coincidence. I'm thinking that it might be an idea to do a minor
version release fairly regularly every couple of months. If we do
this, probably we should also consider updating the data files as
well.

Andrew

On 5 April 2010 10:53, PR@... <pr-celestia@...> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> just one question: When is the release for 1.6.1 planned? Will it ever
> happen?
>
> It is only meant as a "bugfix" release, so I fail to see why it takes
> sooo long. Or is something not yet ready to be released?
>
> Regards,
>
> Christian
>
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All the reported bugs have been fixed.
As to translations, the majority of them have been completed.
I haven't heard from the other translators for a while, so we
might consider that their translations won't be completed anyway.
Sending them a last email with a deadline can be an option, though.

Vincent



Selon "PR@..." <pr-celestia@...>:

> Hi guys,
>
> just one question: When is the release for 1.6.1 planned? Will it ever
> happen?
>
> It is only meant as a "bugfix" release, so I fail to see why it takes
> sooo long. Or is something not yet ready to be released?
>
> Regards,
>
> Christian
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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I think it's time to get the 1.6.1 release out. Sending out a last note to the translators is good idea. We need to make some decisions about data file updates. Grant has committed updates to the extrasolar planets catalog and Solar System locations. It would be easy to integrate these into 1.6.1. We should consider updating Cassini as well--the current trajectory is only good through mid-2010. What other data file updates are important for 1.6.1?

Chris


On Apr 5, 2010, at 4:56 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:

> All the reported bugs have been fixed.
> As to translations, the majority of them have been completed.
> I haven't heard from the other translators for a while, so we
> might consider that their translations won't be completed anyway.
> Sending them a last email with a deadline can be an option, though.
> 
> Vincent
> 
> 
> 
> Selon "PR@..." <pr-celestia@...>:
> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> just one question: When is the release for 1.6.1 planned? Will it ever
>> happen?
>> 
>> It is only meant as a "bugfix" release, so I fail to see why it takes
>> sooo long. Or is something not yet ready to be released?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Christian
>> 
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> 
> 
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Chris,

please, consider the Mac OS X specific bug I already reported to you  
some time ago :  special characters (é, è. etc) are crashing Celestia  
if an URL using these characters is used from the favorite menu.  The  
bug is systematic (very easy to reproduce) and it's a real pain in  
the butt.  This need to be fixed before an official release.

-Martin.


> I think it's time to get the 1.6.1 release out. Sending out a last  
> note to the translators is good idea. We need to make some  
> decisions about data file updates. Grant has committed updates to  
> the extrasolar planets catalog and Solar System locations. It would  
> be easy to integrate these into 1.6.1. We should consider updating  
> Cassini as well--the current trajectory is only good through  
> mid-2010. What other data file updates are important for 1.6.1?
>

Chris Laurel wrote:

> I think it's time to get the 1.6.1 release out. Sending out a last note to
> the translators is good idea.

I just sent an email to translators to inform them that
the deadline for sending back the completed translation
files is April, 19th.

Vincent



> On Apr 5, 2010, at 4:56 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>
> > All the reported bugs have been fixed.
> > As to translations, the majority of them have been completed.
> > I haven't heard from the other translators for a while, so we
> > might consider that their translations won't be completed anyway.
> > Sending them a last email with a deadline can be an option, though.
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> >
> > Selon "PR@..." <pr-celestia@...>:
> >
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> just one question: When is the release for 1.6.1 planned? Will it ever
> >> happen?
> >>
> >> It is only meant as a "bugfix" release, so I fail to see why it takes
> >> sooo long. Or is something not yet ready to be released?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Christian
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
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The majority of translations have been completed during the last
weeks. Over the 24 translations, 17 are 100% complete and 2 are from
95% to 99% complete:
http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Celestia/Internationalization&stable=0

I've had no news from the other translators. So I think that we can
consider the translation process as done and eventually relase 1.6.1.

Vincent



> > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:32 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Chris Laurel wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think it's time to get the 1.6.1 release out. Sending out a last note
> > > to
> > > > the translators is good idea.
> > >
> > > I just sent an email to translators to inform them that
> > > the deadline for sending back the completed translation
> > > files is April, 19th.
> > >
> > > Vincent
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Apr 5, 2010, at 4:56 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > All the reported bugs have been fixed.
> > > > > As to translations, the majority of them have been completed.
> > > > > I haven't heard from the other translators for a while, so we
> > > > > might consider that their translations won't be completed anyway.
> > > > > Sending them a last email with a deadline can be an option, though.
> > > > >
> > > > > Vincent
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Selon "PR@..." <pr-celestia@...>:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi guys,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> just one question: When is the release for 1.6.1 planned? Will it
> ever
> > > > >> happen?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It is only meant as a "bugfix" release, so I fail to see why it
> takes
> > > > >> sooo long. Or is something not yet ready to be released?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Christian
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >> Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
> > > > >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
> > > > >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
> > > > >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
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> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
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> > > > > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

How about finally releasing 1.6.1?

Why not set now a fix date for that and try to reach it? For example:
End of May for a RC and second week of June for the final version.

Regards,

Christian

Am 23.04.2010 19:47, schrieb vincent:
> The majority of translations have been completed during the last
> weeks. Over the 24 translations, 17 are 100% complete and 2 are from
> 95% to 99% complete:
> http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Celestia/Internationalization&stable=0
> 
> I've had no news from the other translators. So I think that we can
> consider the translation process as done and eventually relase 1.6.1.
> 
> Vincent
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:32 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chris Laurel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think it's time to get the 1.6.1 release out. Sending out a last note
>>>> to
>>>>> the translators is good idea.
>>>>
>>>> I just sent an email to translators to inform them that
>>>> the deadline for sending back the completed translation
>>>> files is April, 19th.
>>>>
>>>> Vincent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 5, 2010, at 4:56 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All the reported bugs have been fixed.
>>>>>> As to translations, the majority of them have been completed.
>>>>>> I haven't heard from the other translators for a while, so we
>>>>>> might consider that their translations won't be completed anyway.
>>>>>> Sending them a last email with a deadline can be an option, though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vincent
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Selon "PR@..." <pr-celestia@...>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just one question: When is the release for 1.6.1 planned? Will it
>> ever
>>>>>>> happen?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is only meant as a "bugfix" release, so I fail to see why it
>> takes
>>>>>>> sooo long. Or is something not yet ready to be released?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
>>>>>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
>>>>>>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
>>>>>>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
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>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>>>>>>> Celestia-developers@...
>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
>>>>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
>>>>>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
>>>>>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
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The end of the second week of June is reasonable for a final 1.6.1 release. I've got two key fixes that I want to make:

- incorporate the Cassini solstice mission (the trajectory in 1.6.0 extends only through summer 2010; but with the solstice mission approved, we now have at least a preliminary trajectory through 2017)
- investigate crash bug with translated strings on Mac version reported by Martin

I also want to look into fixing the eclipse shadow bug with oblate planets. This fix is working in trunk. If it's not to difficult to merge it into 1.6.1, I'd like to have it in that release too.

Chris


On May 22, 2010, at 12:20 AM, "PR@..." <pr-celestia@...> wrote:

> How about finally releasing 1.6.1?
> 
> Why not set now a fix date for that and try to reach it? For example:
> End of May for a RC and second week of June for the final version.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Christian
> 
> Am 23.04.2010 19:47, schrieb vincent:
>> The majority of translations have been completed during the last
>> weeks. Over the 24 translations, 17 are 100% complete and 2 are from
>> 95% to 99% complete:
>> http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Celestia/Internationalization&stable=0
>> 
>> I've had no news from the other translators. So I think that we can
>> consider the translation process as done and eventually relase 1.6.1.
>> 
>> Vincent
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:32 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Chris Laurel wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think it's time to get the 1.6.1 release out. Sending out a last note
>>>>> to
>>>>>> the translators is good idea.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just sent an email to translators to inform them that
>>>>> the deadline for sending back the completed translation
>>>>> files is April, 19th.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Vincent
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2010, at 4:56 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All the reported bugs have been fixed.
>>>>>>> As to translations, the majority of them have been completed.
>>>>>>> I haven't heard from the other translators for a while, so we
>>>>>>> might consider that their translations won't be completed anyway.
>>>>>>> Sending them a last email with a deadline can be an option, though.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Vincent
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Selon "PR@..." <pr-celestia@...>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> just one question: When is the release for 1.6.1 planned? Will it
>>> ever
>>>>>>>> happen?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It is only meant as a "bugfix" release, so I fail to see why it
>>> takes
>>>>>>>> sooo long. Or is something not yet ready to be released?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
>>>>>>>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
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>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
>>>>>>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
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>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> The end of the second week of June is reasonable for a final 1.6.1 release. I've got two key fixes that I want to make:
> 
> - incorporate the Cassini solstice mission (the trajectory in 1.6.0 extends only through summer 2010; but with the solstice mission approved, we now have at least a preliminary trajectory through 2017)
> - investigate crash bug with translated strings on Mac version reported by Martin
> 
> I also want to look into fixing the eclipse shadow bug with oblate planets. This fix is working in trunk. If it's not to difficult to merge it into 1.6.1, I'd like to have it in that release too.
> 
> Chris


Chris, 

there's another bug on OS X which needs to be fixed.  The bug occurs on recent Mac (Intel) with Snow Leopard.  I NEVER experienced it on my G5 with OS X Tiger :

Just turn ON full screen mode, then turn back to windowed mode.  Celestia then crashes.  The bug is systematic and easy to reproduce.
I reproduced it on several Mac models...


-Martin.

>
>
>
> Chris,
>
> there's another bug on OS X which needs to be fixed.  The bug occurs on
> recent Mac (Intel) with Snow Leopard.  I NEVER experienced it on my G5 with
> OS X Tiger :
>
> Just turn ON full screen mode, then turn back to windowed mode.  Celestia
> then crashes.  The bug is systematic and easy to reproduce.
> I reproduced it on several Mac models...


I've been trying to fix this one, but have had no luck to this point. One
big problem is that I absolutely cannot reproduce it on my system, though I
no other people can. I've had other Mac users try several different fixes,
none of which helped at all.

What seems to be happening is that some OpenGL resources--textures and
models--are getting released when switching back from full screen to
windowed mode. This shouldn't happen, because the OpenGL context used in
Celestia is created with a parameter that is supposed to make it share
resources with other contexts. I'm still working on it, but I'm short on
ideas for what to try next.

--Chris

I've committed the Solstice Mission update for Cassini to the trunk. There's
a new xyzv file for the Solstice Mission; I chose to separate it from the
rest of the mission in order to keep the plotted trajectory from looking too
messy (some controls for orbit plotting would be very useful here...) The
trajectory ends with Cassini entering Saturn's atmosphere on Sept. 15, 2017.
The final few orbits take Cassini inside Saturn's rings--it's fun riding
along on this part of the mission.

I generated the xyzv file using a new version of spice2xyzv that I'll check
in shortly. It fixes a bug that was causing extra samples to be generated at
the end of a trajectory.

--Chris

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:

> The end of the second week of June is reasonable for a final 1.6.1 release.
> I've got two key fixes that I want to make:
>
> - incorporate the Cassini solstice mission (the trajectory in 1.6.0 extends
> only through summer 2010; but with the solstice mission approved, we now
> have at least a preliminary trajectory through 2017)
> - investigate crash bug with translated strings on Mac version reported by
> Martin
>
> I also want to look into fixing the eclipse shadow bug with oblate planets.
> This fix is working in trunk. If it's not to difficult to merge it into
> 1.6.1, I'd like to have it in that release too.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On May 22, 2010, at 12:20 AM, "PR@..." <pr-celestia@...> wrote:
>
> > How about finally releasing 1.6.1?
> >
> > Why not set now a fix date for that and try to reach it? For example:
> > End of May for a RC and second week of June for the final version.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Christian
> >
> > Am 23.04.2010 19:47, schrieb vincent:
> >> The majority of translations have been completed during the last
> >> weeks. Over the 24 translations, 17 are 100% complete and 2 are from
> >> 95% to 99% complete:
> >>
> http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Celestia/Internationalization&stable=0
> >>
> >> I've had no news from the other translators. So I think that we can
> >> consider the translation process as done and eventually relase 1.6.1.
> >>
> >> Vincent
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:32 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Chris Laurel wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I think it's time to get the 1.6.1 release out. Sending out a last
> note
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>> the translators is good idea.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just sent an email to translators to inform them that
> >>>>> the deadline for sending back the completed translation
> >>>>> files is April, 19th.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Vincent
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Apr 5, 2010, at 4:56 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> All the reported bugs have been fixed.
> >>>>>>> As to translations, the majority of them have been completed.
> >>>>>>> I haven't heard from the other translators for a while, so we
> >>>>>>> might consider that their translations won't be completed anyway.
> >>>>>>> Sending them a last email with a deadline can be an option, though.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Vincent
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Selon "PR@..." <pr-celestia@...>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> just one question: When is the release for 1.6.1 planned? Will it
> >>> ever
> >>>>>>>> happen?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It is only meant as a "bugfix" release, so I fail to see why it
> >>> takes
> >>>>>>>> sooo long. Or is something not yet ready to be released?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Christian
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>> Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
> >>>>>>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find
> bugs
> >>>>>>>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
> >>>>>>>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
> >>>>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev
> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>> Celestia-developers mailing list
> >>>>>>>> Celestia-developers@...
> >>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> Download Intel&#174; Parallel Studio Eval
> >>>>>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs
> >>>>>>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance.
> >>>>>>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
> >>>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> Celestia-developers mailing list
> >>>>>>> Celestia-developers@...
> >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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On 10-05-23 09:56 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> I've been trying to fix this one, but have had no luck to this point.
> One big problem is that I absolutely cannot reproduce it on my system,
> though I no other people can. I've had other Mac users try several
> different fixes, none of which helped at all.

Can this be traced down to a specific video chip? My MacBook Air has an 
nVidia chip, and 1.6.0 doesn't crash, but loses all textures on the switch.

--Pat

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:

> On 10-05-23 09:56 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> > I've been trying to fix this one, but have had no luck to this point.
> > One big problem is that I absolutely cannot reproduce it on my system,
> > though I no other people can. I've had other Mac users try several
> > different fixes, none of which helped at all.
>
> Can this be traced down to a specific video chip? My MacBook Air has an
> nVidia chip, and 1.6.0 doesn't crash, but loses all textures on the switch.
>

I think that this problem is a different manifestation of the same
underlying problem that Martin reported. In your case, the texture resources
are lost when the OpenGL context changes in the switch from fullscreen to
windowed. On Martin's system, I believe that the textures and vertex buffers
are lost, and Celestia crashes when it tries to render geometry with invalid
vertex buffers. Martin, could you experiment with switching from fullscreen
to windowed when no geometry is visible other than stars?

I'm going to commit the updated Cassini mission to 1.6.1 today. After that,
I think that we'll be ready to make a 1.6.1 RC for Windows and Linux.

--Chris

On 31/05/10 01:11 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> I think that this problem is a different manifestation of the same
> underlying problem that Martin reported. In your case, the texture
> resources are lost when the OpenGL context changes in the switch from
> fullscreen to windowed. On Martin's system, I believe that the textures
> and vertex buffers are lost, and Celestia crashes when it tries to
> render geometry with invalid vertex buffers. Martin, could you
> experiment with switching from fullscreen to windowed when no geometry
> is visible other than stars?

It would still be good to know if the difference is split along Intel 
and nVidia chips.

I'm attaching what I get.

--Pat

> On 31/05/10 01:11 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> I think that this problem is a different manifestation of the same
>> underlying problem that Martin reported. In your case, the texture
>> resources are lost when the OpenGL context changes in the switch from
>> fullscreen to windowed. On Martin's system, I believe that the textures
>> and vertex buffers are lost, and Celestia crashes when it tries to
>> render geometry with invalid vertex buffers. Martin, could you
>> experiment with switching from fullscreen to windowed when no geometry
>> is visible other than stars?
> 
> It would still be good to know if the difference is split along Intel and nVidia chips.
> 
> I'm attaching what I get.


I'm getting something similar.



-Martin.

I still haven't had any luck reproducing this problem on my MacBook Pro. One
test system has an NVIDIA GeForce 8600M, the other a GeForce 9600. Since the
hardware is pretty similar, I'm not too surprised that they're behaving the
same. I want to proceed with building a 1.6.1 package for Windows
(prerelease) while continuing to work on the Mac fullscreen bug. Most of the
testing that users will do on the Windows package is relevant for all
platforms.

Has anyone that's seeing the disappearing textures bug tried running the Qt
version? Does it have problems as well?

--Chris

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Martin Charest <martin465@...:

> > On 31/05/10 01:11 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> >> I think that this problem is a different manifestation of the same
> >> underlying problem that Martin reported. In your case, the texture
> >> resources are lost when the OpenGL context changes in the switch from
> >> fullscreen to windowed. On Martin's system, I believe that the textures
> >> and vertex buffers are lost, and Celestia crashes when it tries to
> >> render geometry with invalid vertex buffers. Martin, could you
> >> experiment with switching from fullscreen to windowed when no geometry
> >> is visible other than stars?
> >
> > It would still be good to know if the difference is split along Intel and
> nVidia chips.
> >
> > I'm attaching what I get.
>
>
> I'm getting something similar.
>
>
>
> -Martin.
>
>
>
>
>

On 10/06/10 03:09 AM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> Has anyone that's seeing the disappearing textures bug tried running the
> Qt version? Does it have problems as well?

I haven't. If you can provide binaries, I'll gladly try it out.

--Pat

So guys,

what's up? Will there be a 1.6.1 release or not?

Regards,

Christian

Am 12.06.2010 00:21, schrieb Pat Suwalski:
> On 10/06/10 03:09 AM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> Has anyone that's seeing the disappearing textures bug tried running the
>> Qt version? Does it have problems as well?
> 
> I haven't. If you can provide binaries, I'll gladly try it out.
> 
> --Pat
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I can create a 1.6.1 release candidate for Windows tomorrow (or today if
you're in Europe.) I haven't made any progress on the two outstanding Mac
issues yet.

--Chris

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:27 AM, PR@... <pr-celestia@...> wrote:

> So guys,
>
> what's up? Will there be a 1.6.1 release or not?
>
> Regards,
>
> Christian
>
> Am 12.06.2010 00:21, schrieb Pat Suwalski:
> > On 10/06/10 03:09 AM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> >> Has anyone that's seeing the disappearing textures bug tried running the
> >> Qt version? Does it have problems as well?
> >
> > I haven't. If you can provide binaries, I'll gladly try it out.
> >
> > --Pat
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I think we should release 1.6.1 and defer solving the Mac issues (and
any other outstanding bugs) to 1.6.2? Trying to tackle all the bugs in
one release is clearly leading to extremely long intervals between
releases, where the bugfixes we do have aren't being made available to
the majority of users.

Andrew

On 22 July 2010 08:04, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> I can create a 1.6.1 release candidate for Windows tomorrow (or today if
> you're in Europe.) I haven't made any progress on the two outstanding Mac
> issues yet.
> --Chris
>
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:27 AM, PR@... <pr-celestia@...> wrote:
>>
>> So guys,
>>
>> what's up? Will there be a 1.6.1 release or not?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Christian
>>
>> Am 12.06.2010 00:21, schrieb Pat Suwalski:
>> > On 10/06/10 03:09 AM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> >> Has anyone that's seeing the disappearing textures bug tried running
>> >> the
>> >> Qt version? Does it have problems as well?
>> >
>> > I haven't. If you can provide binaries, I'll gladly try it out.
>> >
>> > --Pat
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On 07/28/2010 10:44 PM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> I think we should release 1.6.1 and defer solving the Mac issues (and
> any other outstanding bugs) to 1.6.2? Trying to tackle all the bugs in
> one release is clearly leading to extremely long intervals between
> releases, where the bugfixes we do have aren't being made available to
> the majority of users.
>
> Andrew
>
I also think 1.6.1 is overdue. The proper correction of the radial 
velocity issues might also need a bit more time (1.6.2 ?) before e.g. 
everything is settled wrto  various coordinate conventions occurring in 
the scientific literature.

Fridger
> On 22 July 2010 08:04, Chris Laurel<claurel@...>  wrote:
>> I can create a 1.6.1 release candidate for Windows tomorrow (or today if
>> you're in Europe.) I haven't made any progress on the two outstanding Mac
>> issues yet.
>> --Chris
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:27 AM, PR@...>  wrote:
>>> So guys,
>>>
>>> what's up? Will there be a 1.6.1 release or not?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Christian
>>>
>>> Am 12.06.2010 00:21, schrieb Pat Suwalski:
>>>> On 10/06/10 03:09 AM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>>>>> Has anyone that's seeing the disappearing textures bug tried running
>>>>> the
>>>>> Qt version? Does it have problems as well?
>>>> I haven't. If you can provide binaries, I'll gladly try it out.
>>>>
>>>> --Pat
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Agreed. At least, we should make a Windows release candidate available, and
if we can fix the Mac bugs in the mean time, great.

I noticed that a lot of the data file updates haven't made it into the 1.6.1
branch yet. The version of extrasolar.ssc in 1.6.0 is over a third larger
than the one in 1.6.1. I haven't checked all the other files in data;
probably, we need to integrate the locations updates as well.

--Chris


On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...:

> I think we should release 1.6.1 and defer solving the Mac issues (and
> any other outstanding bugs) to 1.6.2? Trying to tackle all the bugs in
> one release is clearly leading to extremely long intervals between
> releases, where the bugfixes we do have aren't being made available to
> the majority of users.
>
> Andrew
>
> On 22 July 2010 08:04, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> > I can create a 1.6.1 release candidate for Windows tomorrow (or today if
> > you're in Europe.) I haven't made any progress on the two outstanding Mac
> > issues yet.
> > --Chris
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:27 AM, PR@... <pr-celestia@...>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> So guys,
> >>
> >> what's up? Will there be a 1.6.1 release or not?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Christian
> >>
> >> Am 12.06.2010 00:21, schrieb Pat Suwalski:
> >> > On 10/06/10 03:09 AM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> >> >> Has anyone that's seeing the disappearing textures bug tried running
> >> >> the
> >> >> Qt version? Does it have problems as well?
> >> >
> >> > I haven't. If you can provide binaries, I'll gladly try it out.
> >> >
> >> > --Pat
> >> >
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Anyone else having trouble using SVN on SourceForge today? I'm trying to
copy the updated data files from trunk to 1.6.1, but commits are failing.
Even updates from SVN aren't working reliably.

--Chris

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:

> Agreed. At least, we should make a Windows release candidate available, and
> if we can fix the Mac bugs in the mean time, great.
>
> I noticed that a lot of the data file updates haven't made it into the
> 1.6.1 branch yet. The version of extrasolar.ssc in 1.6.0 is over a third
> larger than the one in 1.6.1. I haven't checked all the other files in data;
> probably, we need to integrate the locations updates as well.
>
> --Chris
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...:
>
>> I think we should release 1.6.1 and defer solving the Mac issues (and
>> any other outstanding bugs) to 1.6.2? Trying to tackle all the bugs in
>> one release is clearly leading to extremely long intervals between
>> releases, where the bugfixes we do have aren't being made available to
>> the majority of users.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 22 July 2010 08:04, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>> > I can create a 1.6.1 release candidate for Windows tomorrow (or today if
>> > you're in Europe.) I haven't made any progress on the two outstanding
>> Mac
>> > issues yet.
>> > --Chris
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:27 AM, PR@... <pr-celestia@...>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> So guys,
>> >>
>> >> what's up? Will there be a 1.6.1 release or not?
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Christian
>> >>
>> >> Am 12.06.2010 00:21, schrieb Pat Suwalski:
>> >> > On 10/06/10 03:09 AM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> >> >> Has anyone that's seeing the disappearing textures bug tried running
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Qt version? Does it have problems as well?
>> >> >
>> >> > I haven't. If you can provide binaries, I'll gladly try it out.
>> >> >
>> >> > --Pat
>> >> >
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On 10-08-04 01:18 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> Anyone else having trouble using SVN on SourceForge today? I'm trying to
> copy the updated data files from trunk to 1.6.1, but commits are
> failing. Even updates from SVN aren't working reliably.

I just managed to update to revision 5041 on a computer where the 
checkout was a couple of months old.

--Pat

I'm currently working on a show stopper bug on the Mac. The latest graphics
driver update from Apple is causing Celestia to apparently revert to
software rendering (unusably slow) when any render path other than Basic or
Multitexture is enabled. Strangely, this bug doesn't affect OpenGL apps like
cmodview, even though it uses similar code to Celestia. I'm still working to
sort out what Celestia is doing that is triggering the software rendering
fallback.

--Chris

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:

> On 10-08-04 01:18 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> > Anyone else having trouble using SVN on SourceForge today? I'm trying to
> > copy the updated data files from trunk to 1.6.1, but commits are
> > failing. Even updates from SVN aren't working reliably.
>
> I just managed to update to revision 5041 on a computer where the
> checkout was a couple of months old.
>
> --Pat
>
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Any luck with the Mac bug? Is it worth releasing Windows and Linux
versions now and delaying the Mac release for a while? (And does this
Mac bug also affect the trunk version?)

Also, nice asteroids video.

Andrew

On 30 August 2010 23:54, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> I'm currently working on a show stopper bug on the Mac. The latest graphics
> driver update from Apple is causing Celestia to apparently revert to
> software rendering (unusably slow) when any render path other than Basic or
> Multitexture is enabled. Strangely, this bug doesn't affect OpenGL apps like
> cmodview, even though it uses similar code to Celestia. I'm still working to
> sort out what Celestia is doing that is triggering the software rendering
> fallback.
>
> --Chris

I finally debugged the problem on the Mac and traced the problem to my star
patch. I didn't think that it was at fault because it didn't disappear when
I switched to one of Celestia's normal star modes. But, it was messing up
the OpenGL state in way that persisted even when stars weren't being
rendered. Also, it was reported by a user who I wasn't aware had installed
the star patch.

In other Mac news, the latest version of Qt 4.7 breaks seems to break PNG
support. It's apparently compiled against a newer version of libpng that
isn't compatible with the png.h header checked into the macosx directory.
Updating to a reasonably modern version of png.h fixes the problem. This
only affects the Qt build, so it's not an issue for the 1.6.1 release.

Anyhow... I'm ready to proceed with the 1.6.1 release. During the last few
weeks, Grant has updated the extrasolar planets catalogs a couple times, so
those changes need to be merged to the 1.6.1 branch. The remaining Mac
issues still need to be fixed, but shouldn't delay the release any more.

Glad you liked the asteroid video... I'll try and release a tech demo in the
next couple of weeks. It's much cooler 'live'

--Chris

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...:

> Any luck with the Mac bug? Is it worth releasing Windows and Linux
> versions now and delaying the Mac release for a while? (And does this
> Mac bug also affect the trunk version?)
>
> Also, nice asteroids video.
>
> Andrew
>
> On 30 August 2010 23:54, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> > I'm currently working on a show stopper bug on the Mac. The latest
> graphics
> > driver update from Apple is causing Celestia to apparently revert to
> > software rendering (unusably slow) when any render path other than Basic
> or
> > Multitexture is enabled. Strangely, this bug doesn't affect OpenGL apps
> like
> > cmodview, even though it uses similar code to Celestia. I'm still working
> to
> > sort out what Celestia is doing that is triggering the software rendering
> > fallback.
> >
> > --Chris
>

Translation issue was brought up in the forums
http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I guess this
is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B definition in
newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.

Any updates on the release date? (Also, what's the deal with the Linux
x86 version, which is still at 1.4.1 on the website?)

Andrew

On 28 September 2010 22:46, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> I finally debugged the problem on the Mac and traced the problem to my star
> patch. I didn't think that it was at fault because it didn't disappear when
> I switched to one of Celestia's normal star modes. But, it was messing up
> the OpenGL state in way that persisted even when stars weren't being
> rendered. Also, it was reported by a user who I wasn't aware had installed
> the star patch.
> In other Mac news, the latest version of Qt 4.7 breaks seems to break PNG
> support. It's apparently compiled against a newer version of libpng that
> isn't compatible with the png.h header checked into the macosx directory.
> Updating to a reasonably modern version of png.h fixes the problem. This
> only affects the Qt build, so it's not an issue for the 1.6.1 release.
> Anyhow... I'm ready to proceed with the 1.6.1 release. During the last few
> weeks, Grant has updated the extrasolar planets catalogs a couple times, so
> those changes need to be merged to the 1.6.1 branch. The remaining Mac
> issues still need to be fixed, but shouldn't delay the release any more.
> Glad you liked the asteroid video... I'll try and release a tech demo in the
> next couple of weeks. It's much cooler 'live'
> --Chris
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Any luck with the Mac bug? Is it worth releasing Windows and Linux
>> versions now and delaying the Mac release for a while? (And does this
>> Mac bug also affect the trunk version?)
>>
>> Also, nice asteroids video.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 30 August 2010 23:54, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>> > I'm currently working on a show stopper bug on the Mac. The latest
>> > graphics
>> > driver update from Apple is causing Celestia to apparently revert to
>> > software rendering (unusably slow) when any render path other than Basic
>> > or
>> > Multitexture is enabled. Strangely, this bug doesn't affect OpenGL apps
>> > like
>> > cmodview, even though it uses similar code to Celestia. I'm still
>> > working to
>> > sort out what Celestia is doing that is triggering the software
>> > rendering
>> > fallback.
>> >
>> > --Chris
>
>

Andrew wrote:

> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I guess this
> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B definition in
> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.

I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it looks
like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of the week.
I'm not home at the moment.

Vincent

On 24/10/10 08:09 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> Any updates on the release date? (Also, what's the deal with the Linux
> x86 version, which is still at 1.4.1 on the website?)

That's the universal binary that can be installed in its own little 
root. Really, the best way to get Celestia on Linux is via the correct 
package for your distribution, which is up to date in all cases.

--Pat

This is fixed now.

@+
Vincent



Vincent wrote:

> Andrew wrote:
>
> > Translation issue was brought up in the forums
> > http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I guess this
> > is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B definition in
> > newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
>
> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it looks
> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of the week.
> I'm not home at the moment.
>
> Vincent
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest
> Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S. and Canada
> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing
> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Celestia-developers mailing list
> Celestia-developers@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>

Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for testing.

--Chris

On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:

> This is fixed now.
> 
> @+
> Vincent
> 
> 
> 
> Vincent wrote:
> 
>> Andrew wrote:
>> 
>>> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
>>> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I guess this
>>> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B definition in
>>> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
>> 
>> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it looks
>> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
>> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of the week.
>> I'm not home at the moment.
>> 
>> Vincent
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest
>> Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S. and Canada
>> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing
>> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>> Celestia-developers@...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> 
> 
>

I've uploaded the Windows 1.6.1 package here:

http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.6.1rc0.exe

I made certain to regenerate all of the translated resource files, and the
version number seems to be updated in all places where it appears.

--Chris

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:

> Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for testing.
>
> --Chris
>
> On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>
> > This is fixed now.
> >
> > @+
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> >
> > Vincent wrote:
> >
> >> Andrew wrote:
> >>
> >>> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
> >>> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I guess this
> >>> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B definition in
> >>> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
> >>
> >> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it looks
> >> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
> >> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of the week.
> >> I'm not home at the moment.
> >>
> >> Vincent
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America
> contest
> >> Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S. and
> Canada
> >> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in
> marketing
> >> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store
> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> >> Celestia-developers@...
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >>
> >
> >
>

Aaaand it looks like there's a 2009 in the about box that should be changed
to 2010...

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:

> I've uploaded the Windows 1.6.1 package here:
>
> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.6.1rc0.exe
>
> I made certain to regenerate all of the translated resource files, and the
> version number seems to be updated in all places where it appears.
>
> --Chris
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for testing.
>>
>> --Chris
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>>
>> > This is fixed now.
>> >
>> > @+
>> > Vincent
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Vincent wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrew wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
>> >>> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I guess
>> this
>> >>> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B definition in
>> >>> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
>> >>
>> >> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it looks
>> >> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
>> >> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of the
>> week.
>> >> I'm not home at the moment.
>> >>
>> >> Vincent
>> >>
>> >>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America
>> contest
>> >> Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S. and
>> Canada
>> >> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in
>> marketing
>> >> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi
>> Store
>> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Celestia-developers mailing list
>> >> Celestia-developers@...
>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Chris wrote :

> Aaaand it looks like there's a 2009 in the about box that should be changed
> to 2010...

...Which will break the copyright string translation in all languages.
Nevermind.

Vincent


> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>
> > I've uploaded the Windows 1.6.1 package here:
> >
> > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.6.1rc0.exe
> >
> > I made certain to regenerate all of the translated resource files, and the
> > version number seems to be updated in all places where it appears.
> >
> > --Chris
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for testing.
> >>
> >> --Chris
> >>
> >> On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> > This is fixed now.
> >> >
> >> > @+
> >> > Vincent
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Vincent wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Andrew wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
> >> >>> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I guess
> >> this
> >> >>> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B definition in
> >> >>> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
> >> >>
> >> >> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it looks
> >> >> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
> >> >> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of the
> >> week.
> >> >> I'm not home at the moment.
> >> >>
> >> >> Vincent
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America
> >> contest
> >> >> Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S. and
> >> Canada
> >> >> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in
> >> marketing
> >> >> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi
> >> Store
> >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> >> >> Celestia-developers@...
> >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

I've fixed the copyright information (2009 -> 2010) in the Windows Help menu.
As to its translations, I thing that the English copyright string is not
that much difficult to understand ;-)

Also, I got a gtk+ interface i18n patch from our Belarusian translator.
I suggested him to post it on the Sourceforge bug tracker :
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3103121&group_id=21302&atid=121302

Vincent



Selon vincent <vince.gian@...>:

> Chris wrote :
>
> > Aaaand it looks like there's a 2009 in the about box that should be changed
> > to 2010...
>
> ...Which will break the copyright string translation in all languages.
> Nevermind.
>
> Vincent
>
>
> > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I've uploaded the Windows 1.6.1 package here:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.6.1rc0.exe
> > >
> > > I made certain to regenerate all of the translated resource files, and
> the
> > > version number seems to be updated in all places where it appears.
> > >
> > > --Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for
> testing.
> > >>
> > >> --Chris
> > >>
> > >> On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > This is fixed now.
> > >> >
> > >> > @+
> > >> > Vincent
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Vincent wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Andrew wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
> > >> >>> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I guess
> > >> this
> > >> >>> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B definition in
> > >> >>> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it looks
> > >> >> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
> > >> >> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of the
> > >> week.
> > >> >> I'm not home at the moment.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Vincent
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> >> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America
> > >> contest
> > >> >> Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S. and
> > >> Canada
> > >> >> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in
> > >> marketing
> > >> >> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi
> > >> Store
> > >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
> > >> >> _______________________________________________
> > >> >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> > >> >> Celestia-developers@...
> > >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

Thank you, Vincent. I will prepare another Windows 1.6.1 package when I
return home on Sunday.

Also, I'm working on problems with the slowness of shatters.net. I'm hoping
to have them resolved by midweek; if not, we need to come up with some other
way to distribute the prerelease package (perhaps just SourceForge?)

--Chris

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:39 PM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:

> I've fixed the copyright information (2009 -> 2010) in the Windows Help
> menu.
> As to its translations, I thing that the English copyright string is not
> that much difficult to understand ;-)
>
> Also, I got a gtk+ interface i18n patch from our Belarusian translator.
> I suggested him to post it on the Sourceforge bug tracker :
>
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3103121&group_id=21302&atid=121302
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
> Selon vincent <vince.gian@...>:
>
> > Chris wrote :
> >
> > > Aaaand it looks like there's a 2009 in the about box that should be
> changed
> > > to 2010...
> >
> > ...Which will break the copyright string translation in all languages.
> > Nevermind.
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've uploaded the Windows 1.6.1 package here:
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.6.1rc0.exe
> > > >
> > > > I made certain to regenerate all of the translated resource files,
> and
> > the
> > > > version number seems to be updated in all places where it appears.
> > > >
> > > > --Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for
> > testing.
> > > >>
> > > >> --Chris
> > > >>
> > > >> On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > This is fixed now.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > @+
> > > >> > Vincent
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Vincent wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Andrew wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
> > > >> >>> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I
> guess
> > > >> this
> > > >> >>> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B
> definition in
> > > >> >>> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it
> looks
> > > >> >> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
> > > >> >> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of
> the
> > > >> week.
> > > >> >> I'm not home at the moment.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Vincent
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> >> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North
> America
> > > >> contest
> > > >> >> Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S.
> and
> > > >> Canada
> > > >> >> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M
> in
> > > >> marketing
> > > >> >> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to
> Ovi
> > > >> Store
> > > >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
> > > >> >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> > > >> >> Celestia-developers@...
> > > >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Chris,

You're welcome.
I've committed a last change to the Windows Goto Object dialog
to prevent translated strings from being truncated.
Also, I just got an email from Norvegian translators who'd like
to add their translation to 1.6.1. They should send me their files
by tomorrow. Then, I think that we'll be OK for releasing 1.6.1,
at least for the Windows package.

Vincent


Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:

> Thank you, Vincent. I will prepare another Windows 1.6.1 package when I
> return home on Sunday.
>
> Also, I'm working on problems with the slowness of shatters.net. I'm hoping
> to have them resolved by midweek; if not, we need to come up with some other
> way to distribute the prerelease package (perhaps just SourceForge?)
>
> --Chris
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:39 PM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>
> > I've fixed the copyright information (2009 -> 2010) in the Windows Help
> > menu.
> > As to its translations, I thing that the English copyright string is not
> > that much difficult to understand ;-)
> >
> > Also, I got a gtk+ interface i18n patch from our Belarusian translator.
> > I suggested him to post it on the Sourceforge bug tracker :
> >
> >
>
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3103121&group_id=21302&atid=121302
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> >
> > Selon vincent <vince.gian@...>:
> >
> > > Chris wrote :
> > >
> > > > Aaaand it looks like there's a 2009 in the about box that should be
> > changed
> > > > to 2010...
> > >
> > > ...Which will break the copyright string translation in all languages.
> > > Nevermind.
> > >
> > > Vincent
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I've uploaded the Windows 1.6.1 package here:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.6.1rc0.exe
> > > > >
> > > > > I made certain to regenerate all of the translated resource files,
> > and
> > > the
> > > > > version number seems to be updated in all places where it appears.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Chris
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for
> > > testing.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --Chris
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > This is fixed now.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > @+
> > > > >> > Vincent
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Vincent wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> Andrew wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
> > > > >> >>> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I
> > guess
> > > > >> this
> > > > >> >>> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B
> > definition in
> > > > >> >>> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it
> > looks
> > > > >> >> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
> > > > >> >> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of
> > the
> > > > >> week.
> > > > >> >> I'm not home at the moment.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Vincent
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >> >> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North
> > America
> > > > >> contest
> > > > >> >> Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S.
> > and
> > > > >> Canada
> > > > >> >> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M
> > in
> > > > >> marketing
> > > > >> >> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to
> > Ovi
> > > > >> Store
> > > > >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
> > > > >> >> _______________________________________________
> > > > >> >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> > > > >> >> Celestia-developers@...
> > > > >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

Hi,

Happy new year everyone! What's the current story with 1.6.1?

Regards,
Andrew

On 4 December 2010 09:56, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> You're welcome.
> I've committed a last change to the Windows Goto Object dialog
> to prevent translated strings from being truncated.
> Also, I just got an email from Norvegian translators who'd like
> to add their translation to 1.6.1. They should send me their files
> by tomorrow. Then, I think that we'll be OK for releasing 1.6.1,
> at least for the Windows package.
>
> Vincent
>
>
> Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:
>
>> Thank you, Vincent. I will prepare another Windows 1.6.1 package when I
>> return home on Sunday.
>>
>> Also, I'm working on problems with the slowness of shatters.net. I'm hoping
>> to have them resolved by midweek; if not, we need to come up with some other
>> way to distribute the prerelease package (perhaps just SourceForge?)
>>
>> --Chris
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:39 PM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>>
>> > I've fixed the copyright information (2009 -> 2010) in the Windows Help
>> > menu.
>> > As to its translations, I thing that the English copyright string is not
>> > that much difficult to understand ;-)
>> >
>> > Also, I got a gtk+ interface i18n patch from our Belarusian translator.
>> > I suggested him to post it on the Sourceforge bug tracker :
>> >
>> >
>>
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3103121&group_id=21302&atid=121302
>> >
>> > Vincent
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Selon vincent <vince.gian@...>:
>> >
>> > > Chris wrote :
>> > >
>> > > > Aaaand it looks like there's a 2009 in the about box that should be
>> > changed
>> > > > to 2010...
>> > >
>> > > ...Which will break the copyright string translation in all languages.
>> > > Nevermind.
>> > >
>> > > Vincent
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I've uploaded the Windows 1.6.1 package here:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.6.1rc0.exe
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I made certain to regenerate all of the translated resource files,
>> > and
>> > > the
>> > > > > version number seems to be updated in all places where it appears.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --Chris
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for
>> > > testing.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> --Chris
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > This is fixed now.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > @+
>> > > > >> > Vincent
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Vincent wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >> Andrew wrote:
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >>> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
>> > > > >> >>> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I
>> > guess
>> > > > >> this
>> > > > >> >>> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B
>> > definition in
>> > > > >> >>> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it
>> > looks
>> > > > >> >> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
>> > > > >> >> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of
>> > the
>> > > > >> week.
>> > > > >> >> I'm not home at the moment.
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >> Vincent
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > >> >> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North
>> > America
>> > > > >> contest
>> > > > >> >> Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S.
>> > and
>> > > > >> Canada
>> > > > >> >> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M
>> > in
>> > > > >> marketing
>> > > > >> >> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to
>> > Ovi
>> > > > >> Store
>> > > > >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
>> > > > >> >> _______________________________________________
>> > > > >> >> Celestia-developers mailing list
>> > > > >> >> Celestia-developers@...
>> > > > >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
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> Hi,
>
> Happy new year everyone! What's the current story with 1.6.1?
>
> Regards,
> Andrew

Happy New Year to everyone from me, too!

On Dec. 7 2010,  I exchanged some 1.6.1 related findings and thoughts 
with Chris that perhaps should be made public here as well:

I found two Celestia@... related build issues.

1) I tried to compile the 1.6.1 branch in SVN with my /recent/ versions 
of gcc under openSuSE Linux, which failed at a number of places. 
Presumably no-one among the devs has ever tried Linux before on 1.6.1 ;-)

One of my gcc compilers (openSuSE 11.2)  is version 4.4.1, while  the 
other one (openSuSE 11.3) is version 4.5.0. Most other  recent Linux 
distributions will presumably also be using gcc 4.5.x!

With version 4.4.1 I merely had to add #include <cstdio> in three places 
and finally there is also an error in the i18 compile step after 
celestia was built (which I never cared about) . With the actual trunk 
version this all compiles without problems both with 4.4.1 and 4.5.

The latest gcc 4.5 complains, however, on an /additional/ number  of 
issues (overlay.h, mesh.cpp,...) for example. So I lost patience 
eventually, after I posed myself the following principal question:

++++++++++++++++++++++
Does it make sense at all to release a /first/ dot release (1.6.1) as 
much as ***1.5 years*** after version 1.6.0!??
++++++++++++++++++++++

Since the 1.6.0 release, so many significant intrinsic changes took 
place in the (trunk) code (e.g. Eigenizing, code reorganizations,...) 
that in my view a mere bugfix release 1.6.1 so much later might well be 
interpreted as a rather discrediting sign for lacking Celestia 
development activity.

I think releasing 1.6.1 makes no sense at this late time. I rather 
suggest we concentrate all efforts on a first Qt release (1.7.0) as 
early as possible!

OK, Chris did not share my opinion about skipping the release of 1.6.1. 
Anyway, since my respective mail on Dec. 7, yet another month has passed 
without further 1.6.1 pre-release showing up. Chris wanted to look into 
fixing these Linux issues, but I have heard nothing from him in this 
respect since.

Fridger

On 01/08/2011 12:10 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Happy new year everyone! What's the current story with 1.6.1?
>
> Regards,
> Andrew
>
> On 4 December 2010 09:56, vincent<vince.gian@...>  wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> You're welcome.
>> I've committed a last change to the Windows Goto Object dialog
>> to prevent translated strings from being truncated.
>> Also, I just got an email from Norvegian translators who'd like
>> to add their translation to 1.6.1. They should send me their files
>> by tomorrow. Then, I think that we'll be OK for releasing 1.6.1,
>> at least for the Windows package.
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>>
>> Selon Chris Laurel<claurel@...>:
>>
>>> Thank you, Vincent. I will prepare another Windows 1.6.1 package when I
>>> return home on Sunday.
>>>
>>> Also, I'm working on problems with the slowness of shatters.net. I'm hoping
>>> to have them resolved by midweek; if not, we need to come up with some other
>>> way to distribute the prerelease package (perhaps just SourceForge?)
>>>
>>> --Chris
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:39 PM, vincent<vince.gian@...>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've fixed the copyright information (2009 ->  2010) in the Windows Help
>>>> menu.
>>>> As to its translations, I thing that the English copyright string is not
>>>> that much difficult to understand ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Also, I got a gtk+ interface i18n patch from our Belarusian translator.
>>>> I suggested him to post it on the Sourceforge bug tracker :
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3103121&group_id=21302&atid=121302
>>>> Vincent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Selon vincent<vince.gian@...>:
>>>>
>>>>> Chris wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaaand it looks like there's a 2009 in the about box that should be
>>>> changed
>>>>>> to 2010...
>>>>> ...Which will break the copyright string translation in all languages.
>>>>> Nevermind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vincent
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Laurel<claurel@...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I've uploaded the Windows 1.6.1 package here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.6.1rc0.exe
>>>>>>> I made certain to regenerate all of the translated resource files,
>>>> and
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> version number seems to be updated in all places where it appears.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Chris Laurel<claurel@...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for
>>>>> testing.
>>>>>>>> --Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent<vince.gian@...>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is fixed now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @+
>>>>>>>>> Vincent
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vincent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I
>>>> guess
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B
>>>> definition in
>>>>>>>>>>> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
>>>>>>>>>> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it
>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
>>>>>>>>>> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> week.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not home at the moment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Vincent
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North
>>>> America
>>>>>>>> contest
>>>>>>>>>> Create new apps&  games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S.
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Canada
>>>>>>>>>> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M
>>>> in
>>>>>>>> marketing
>>>>>>>>>> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to
>>>> Ovi
>>>>>>>> Store
>>>>>>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Celestia-developers@...
>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> What happens now with your Lotus Notes apps - do you make another costly
>> upgrade, or settle for being marooned without product support? Time to move
>> off Lotus Notes and onto the cloud with Force.com, apps are easier to build,
>> use, and manage than apps on traditional platforms. Sign up for the Lotus
>> Notes Migration Kit to learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/salesforce-d2d
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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Having taken a look at this, I can now get the 1.6.1 to compile using
gcc 4.5. However I can only get working executables from the qt4
build.

The KDE3, GNOME and GTK versions all crash on startup, the "make
install" command throws errors (apparently it tries to overwrite the
data directory with itself), the "make uninstall" command also throws
errors for similar reasons. Presumably the various configuration files
need a change but the workings of autoreconf are not my speciality!

GTK/GNOME crash message looks like
(celestia:27337): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_set_size_request:
assertion `width >= -1' failed

KDE crash message just says it has crashed, no useful information is produced.

Furthermore there is an error in the it.po translation file involving
the translation of "Globular (core radius: %4.2f', King concentration:
%4.2f)" - the translation string has a different number of fields in
it which results in errors, I replaced the translation with "" and it
seemed to work but this is clearly not an ideal solution.

Building off the trunk is FAR less problematic! Aside from having to
add -lDCOP to the ld command line for the KDE version and a couple of
minor library name changes in celestia.pro, all the interfaces
(including qt4) build fine.

Regards,
Andrew

On 8 January 2011 01:44, Fridger Schrempp <fridger.schrempp@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Happy new year everyone! What's the current story with 1.6.1?
>
> Regards,
> Andrew
>
> Happy New Year to everyone from me, too!
>
> On Dec. 7 2010,  I exchanged some 1.6.1 related findings and thoughts with
> Chris that perhaps should be made public here as well:
>
> I found two Celestia@... related build issues.
>
> 1) I tried to compile the 1.6.1 branch in SVN with my /recent/ versions of
> gcc under openSuSE Linux, which failed at a number of places. Presumably
> no-one among the devs has ever tried Linux before on 1.6.1 ;-)
>
> One of my gcc compilers (openSuSE 11.2)  is version 4.4.1, while  the other
> one (openSuSE 11.3) is version 4.5.0. Most other  recent Linux distributions
> will presumably also be using gcc 4.5.x!
>
> With version 4.4.1 I merely had to add #include <cstdio> in three places and
> finally there is also an error in the i18 compile step after celestia was
> built (which I never cared about) . With the actual trunk version this all
> compiles without problems both with 4.4.1 and 4.5.
>
> The latest gcc 4.5 complains, however, on an /additional/ number  of issues
> (overlay.h, mesh.cpp,...) for example. So I lost patience eventually, after
> I posed myself the following principal question:
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++
> Does it make sense at all to release a /first/ dot release (1.6.1) as much
> as ***1.5 years*** after version 1.6.0!??
> ++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Since the 1.6.0 release, so many significant intrinsic changes took place in
> the (trunk) code (e.g. Eigenizing, code reorganizations,...) that in my view
> a mere bugfix release 1.6.1 so much later might well be interpreted as a
> rather discrediting sign for lacking Celestia development activity.
>
> I think releasing 1.6.1 makes no sense at this late time. I rather suggest
> we concentrate all efforts on a first Qt release (1.7.0) as early as
> possible!
>
> OK, Chris did not share my opinion about skipping the release of 1.6.1.
> Anyway, since my respective mail on Dec. 7, yet another month has passed
> without further 1.6.1 pre-release showing up. Chris wanted to look into
> fixing these Linux issues, but I have heard nothing from him in this respect
> since.
>
> Fridger
>
> On 01/08/2011 12:10 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Happy new year everyone! What's the current story with 1.6.1?
>
> Regards,
> Andrew
>
> On 4 December 2010 09:56, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> You're welcome.
> I've committed a last change to the Windows Goto Object dialog
> to prevent translated strings from being truncated.
> Also, I just got an email from Norvegian translators who'd like
> to add their translation to 1.6.1. They should send me their files
> by tomorrow. Then, I think that we'll be OK for releasing 1.6.1,
> at least for the Windows package.
>
> Vincent
>
>
> Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:
>
> Thank you, Vincent. I will prepare another Windows 1.6.1 package when I
> return home on Sunday.
>
> Also, I'm working on problems with the slowness of shatters.net. I'm hoping
> to have them resolved by midweek; if not, we need to come up with some other
> way to distribute the prerelease package (perhaps just SourceForge?)
>
> --Chris
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:39 PM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>
> I've fixed the copyright information (2009 -> 2010) in the Windows Help
> menu.
> As to its translations, I thing that the English copyright string is not
> that much difficult to understand ;-)
>
> Also, I got a gtk+ interface i18n patch from our Belarusian translator.
> I suggested him to post it on the Sourceforge bug tracker :
>
>
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3103121&group_id=21302&atid=121302
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
> Selon vincent <vince.gian@...>:
>
> Chris wrote :
>
> Aaaand it looks like there's a 2009 in the about box that should be
>
> changed
>
> to 2010...
>
> ...Which will break the copyright string translation in all languages.
> Nevermind.
>
> Vincent
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
>
> wrote:
>
> I've uploaded the Windows 1.6.1 package here:
>
>
> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.6.1rc0.exe
>
> I made certain to regenerate all of the translated resource files,
>
> and
>
> the
>
> version number seems to be updated in all places where it appears.
>
> --Chris
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for
>
> testing.
>
> --Chris
>
> On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>
> This is fixed now.
>
> @+
> Vincent
>
>
>
> Vincent wrote:
>
> Andrew wrote:
>
> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I
>
> guess
>
> this
>
> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B
>
> definition in
>
> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
>
> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it
>
> looks
>
> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of
>
> the
>
> week.
>
> I'm not home at the moment.
>
> Vincent
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North
>
> America
>
> contest
>
> Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S.
>
> and
>
> Canada
>
> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M
>
> in
>
> marketing
>
> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to
>
> Ovi
>
> Store
>
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Celestia-developers mailing list
> Celestia-developers@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> What happens now with your Lotus Notes apps - do you make another costly
> upgrade, or settle for being marooned without product support? Time to move
> off Lotus Notes and onto the cloud with Force.com, apps are easier to build,
> use, and manage than apps on traditional platforms. Sign up for the Lotus
> Notes Migration Kit to learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/salesforce-d2d
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> company
> that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web.   Learn how to
> best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure
> and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions.
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>
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> company
> that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web.   Learn how to
> best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure
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>

Andrew wrote:

> Furthermore there is an error in the it.po translation file involving
> the translation of "Globular (core radius: %4.2f', King concentration:
> %4.2f)" - the translation string has a different number of fields in
> it which results in errors, I replaced the translation with "" and it
> seemed to work but this is clearly not an ideal solution.

Andrew,

Thanks for pointing this out. I just fixed it by completing the
Italian translation of globular information.

I wish to all of you the best for 2011 !

Vincent



> On 8 January 2011 01:44, Fridger Schrempp <fridger.schrempp@...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Happy new year everyone! What's the current story with 1.6.1?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew
> >
> > Happy New Year to everyone from me, too!
> >
> > On Dec. 7 2010,  I exchanged some 1.6.1 related findings and thoughts with
> > Chris that perhaps should be made public here as well:
> >
> > I found two Celestia@... related build issues.
> >
> > 1) I tried to compile the 1.6.1 branch in SVN with my /recent/ versions of
> > gcc under openSuSE Linux, which failed at a number of places. Presumably
> > no-one among the devs has ever tried Linux before on 1.6.1 ;-)
> >
> > One of my gcc compilers (openSuSE 11.2)  is version 4.4.1, while  the
> other
> > one (openSuSE 11.3) is version 4.5.0. Most other  recent Linux
> distributions
> > will presumably also be using gcc 4.5.x!
> >
> > With version 4.4.1 I merely had to add #include <cstdio> in three places
> and
> > finally there is also an error in the i18 compile step after celestia was
> > built (which I never cared about) . With the actual trunk version this all
> > compiles without problems both with 4.4.1 and 4.5.
> >
> > The latest gcc 4.5 complains, however, on an /additional/ number  of
> issues
> > (overlay.h, mesh.cpp,...) for example. So I lost patience eventually, after
> > I posed myself the following principal question:
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Does it make sense at all to release a /first/ dot release (1.6.1) as much
> > as ***1.5 years*** after version 1.6.0!??
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> > Since the 1.6.0 release, so many significant intrinsic changes took place
> in
> > the (trunk) code (e.g. Eigenizing, code reorganizations,...) that in my
> view
> > a mere bugfix release 1.6.1 so much later might well be interpreted as a
> > rather discrediting sign for lacking Celestia development activity.
> >
> > I think releasing 1.6.1 makes no sense at this late time. I rather suggest
> > we concentrate all efforts on a first Qt release (1.7.0) as early as
> > possible!
> >
> > OK, Chris did not share my opinion about skipping the release of 1.6.1.
> > Anyway, since my respective mail on Dec. 7, yet another month has passed
> > without further 1.6.1 pre-release showing up. Chris wanted to look into
> > fixing these Linux issues, but I have heard nothing from him in this
> respect
> > since.
> >
> > Fridger
> >
> > On 01/08/2011 12:10 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Happy new year everyone! What's the current story with 1.6.1?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew
> >
> > On 4 December 2010 09:56, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > You're welcome.
> > I've committed a last change to the Windows Goto Object dialog
> > to prevent translated strings from being truncated.
> > Also, I just got an email from Norvegian translators who'd like
> > to add their translation to 1.6.1. They should send me their files
> > by tomorrow. Then, I think that we'll be OK for releasing 1.6.1,
> > at least for the Windows package.
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> > Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:
> >
> > Thank you, Vincent. I will prepare another Windows 1.6.1 package when I
> > return home on Sunday.
> >
> > Also, I'm working on problems with the slowness of shatters.net. I'm hoping
> > to have them resolved by midweek; if not, we need to come up with some
> other
> > way to distribute the prerelease package (perhaps just SourceForge?)
> >
> > --Chris
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:39 PM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> >
> > I've fixed the copyright information (2009 -> 2010) in the Windows Help
> > menu.
> > As to its translations, I thing that the English copyright string is not
> > that much difficult to understand ;-)
> >
> > Also, I got a gtk+ interface i18n patch from our Belarusian translator.
> > I suggested him to post it on the Sourceforge bug tracker :
> >
> >
> >
>
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3103121&group_id=21302&atid=121302
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> >
> > Selon vincent <vince.gian@...>:
> >
> > Chris wrote :
> >
> > Aaaand it looks like there's a 2009 in the about box that should be
> >
> > changed
> >
> > to 2010...
> >
> > ...Which will break the copyright string translation in all languages.
> > Nevermind.
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > I've uploaded the Windows 1.6.1 package here:
> >
> >
> > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.6.1rc0.exe
> >
> > I made certain to regenerate all of the translated resource files,
> >
> > and
> >
> > the
> >
> > version number seems to be updated in all places where it appears.
> >
> > --Chris
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for
> >
> > testing.
> >
> > --Chris
> >
> > On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> >
> > This is fixed now.
> >
> > @+
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> >
> > Vincent wrote:
> >
> > Andrew wrote:
> >
> > Translation issue was brought up in the forums
> > http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I
> >
> > guess
> >
> > this
> >
> > is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B
> >
> > definition in
> >
> > newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
> >
> > I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it
> >
> > looks
> >
> > like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
> > Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of
> >
> > the
> >
> > week.
> >
> > I'm not home at the moment.
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North
> >
> > America
> >
> > contest
> >
> > Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S.
> >
> > and
> >
> > Canada
> >
> > $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M
> >
> > in
> >
> > marketing
> >
> > Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to
> >
> > Ovi
> >
> > Store
> >
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > Celestia-developers@...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > What happens now with your Lotus Notes apps - do you make another costly
> > upgrade, or settle for being marooned without product support? Time to move
> > off Lotus Notes and onto the cloud with Force.com, apps are easier to
> build,
> > use, and manage than apps on traditional platforms. Sign up for the Lotus
> > Notes Migration Kit to learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/salesforce-d2d
> > _______________________________________________
> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > Celestia-developers@...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any
> > company
> > that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web.   Learn how to
> > best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure
> > and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl
> > _______________________________________________
> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > Celestia-developers@...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any
> > company
> > that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web.   Learn how
> to
> > best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure
> > and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl
> > _______________________________________________
> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > Celestia-developers@...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company
> that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web.   Learn how to
> best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure
> and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl
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On 01/08/2011 06:26 PM, vincent wrote:
> Andrew wrote:
>
>> Furthermore there is an error in the it.po translation file involving
>> the translation of "Globular (core radius: %4.2f', King concentration:
>> %4.2f)" - the translation string has a different number of fields in
>> it which results in errors, I replaced the translation with "" and it
>> seemed to work but this is clearly not an ideal solution.
> Andrew,
>
> Thanks for pointing this out. I just fixed it by completing the
> Italian translation of globular information.
>
> I wish to all of you the best for 2011 !
>
> Vincent
>
That was the same error I pointed out above, in my initiating mail about 
the subject.
I called it "an error in the i18 compile step"

Fridger

>
>> On 8 January 2011 01:44, Fridger Schrempp<fridger.schrempp@...>  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Happy new year everyone! What's the current story with 1.6.1?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> Happy New Year to everyone from me, too!
>>>
>>> On Dec. 7 2010,  I exchanged some 1.6.1 related findings and thoughts with
>>> Chris that perhaps should be made public here as well:
>>>
>>> I found two Celestia@... related build issues.
>>>
>>> 1) I tried to compile the 1.6.1 branch in SVN with my /recent/ versions of
>>> gcc under openSuSE Linux, which failed at a number of places. Presumably
>>> no-one among the devs has ever tried Linux before on 1.6.1 ;-)
>>>
>>> One of my gcc compilers (openSuSE 11.2)  is version 4.4.1, while  the
>> other
>>> one (openSuSE 11.3) is version 4.5.0. Most other  recent Linux
>> distributions
>>> will presumably also be using gcc 4.5.x!
>>>
>>> With version 4.4.1 I merely had to add #include<cstdio>  in three places
>> and
>>> finally there is also an error in the i18 compile step after celestia was
>>> built (which I never cared about) . With the actual trunk version this all
>>> compiles without problems both with 4.4.1 and 4.5.
>>>
>>> The latest gcc 4.5 complains, however, on an /additional/ number  of
>> issues
>>> (overlay.h, mesh.cpp,...) for example. So I lost patience eventually, after
>>> I posed myself the following principal question:
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Does it make sense at all to release a /first/ dot release (1.6.1) as much
>>> as ***1.5 years*** after version 1.6.0!??
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>> Since the 1.6.0 release, so many significant intrinsic changes took place
>> in
>>> the (trunk) code (e.g. Eigenizing, code reorganizations,...) that in my
>> view
>>> a mere bugfix release 1.6.1 so much later might well be interpreted as a
>>> rather discrediting sign for lacking Celestia development activity.
>>>
>>> I think releasing 1.6.1 makes no sense at this late time. I rather suggest
>>> we concentrate all efforts on a first Qt release (1.7.0) as early as
>>> possible!
>>>
>>> OK, Chris did not share my opinion about skipping the release of 1.6.1.
>>> Anyway, since my respective mail on Dec. 7, yet another month has passed
>>> without further 1.6.1 pre-release showing up. Chris wanted to look into
>>> fixing these Linux issues, but I have heard nothing from him in this
>> respect
>>> since.
>>>
>>> Fridger
>>>
>>> On 01/08/2011 12:10 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Happy new year everyone! What's the current story with 1.6.1?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> On 4 December 2010 09:56, vincent<vince.gian@...>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> You're welcome.
>>> I've committed a last change to the Windows Goto Object dialog
>>> to prevent translated strings from being truncated.
>>> Also, I just got an email from Norvegian translators who'd like
>>> to add their translation to 1.6.1. They should send me their files
>>> by tomorrow. Then, I think that we'll be OK for releasing 1.6.1,
>>> at least for the Windows package.
>>>
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>>
>>> Selon Chris Laurel<claurel@...>:
>>>
>>> Thank you, Vincent. I will prepare another Windows 1.6.1 package when I
>>> return home on Sunday.
>>>
>>> Also, I'm working on problems with the slowness of shatters.net. I'm hoping
>>> to have them resolved by midweek; if not, we need to come up with some
>> other
>>> way to distribute the prerelease package (perhaps just SourceForge?)
>>>
>>> --Chris
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:39 PM, vincent<vince.gian@...>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've fixed the copyright information (2009 ->  2010) in the Windows Help
>>> menu.
>>> As to its translations, I thing that the English copyright string is not
>>> that much difficult to understand ;-)
>>>
>>> Also, I got a gtk+ interface i18n patch from our Belarusian translator.
>>> I suggested him to post it on the Sourceforge bug tracker :
>>>
>>>
>>>
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3103121&group_id=21302&atid=121302
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Selon vincent<vince.gian@...>:
>>>
>>> Chris wrote :
>>>
>>> Aaaand it looks like there's a 2009 in the about box that should be
>>>
>>> changed
>>>
>>> to 2010...
>>>
>>> ...Which will break the copyright string translation in all languages.
>>> Nevermind.
>>>
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Laurel<claurel@...>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've uploaded the Windows 1.6.1 package here:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.6.1rc0.exe
>>>
>>> I made certain to regenerate all of the translated resource files,
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>> version number seems to be updated in all places where it appears.
>>>
>>> --Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Chris Laurel<claurel@...>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for
>>>
>>> testing.
>>>
>>> --Chris
>>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent<vince.gian@...>  wrote:
>>>
>>> This is fixed now.
>>>
>>> @+
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Vincent wrote:
>>>
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>
>>> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
>>> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I
>>>
>>> guess
>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B
>>>
>>> definition in
>>>
>>> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
>>>
>>> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it
>>>
>>> looks
>>>
>>> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
>>> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>> week.
>>>
>>> I'm not home at the moment.
>>>
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North
>>>
>>> America
>>>
>>> contest
>>>
>>> Create new apps&  games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S.
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> Canada
>>>
>>> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M
>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>> marketing
>>>
>>> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to
>>>
>>> Ovi
>>>
>>> Store
>>>
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>>> Celestia-developers@...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> What happens now with your Lotus Notes apps - do you make another costly
>>> upgrade, or settle for being marooned without product support? Time to move
>>> off Lotus Notes and onto the cloud with Force.com, apps are easier to
>> build,
>>> use, and manage than apps on traditional platforms. Sign up for the Lotus
>>> Notes Migration Kit to learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/salesforce-d2d
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>>> Celestia-developers@...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any
>>> company
>>> that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web.   Learn how to
>>> best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure
>>> and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions.
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>>> Celestia-developers@...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any
>>> company
>>> that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Â  Learn how
>> to
>>> best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure
>>> and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions.
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl
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>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web.   Learn how to
>> best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure
>> and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions.
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>
>
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> that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web.   Learn how to
> best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure
> and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions.
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Hi all,

Working on a cmake build script(just so one can avoid autotools) here, I sent 
one awhile ago so this is just an update.

This script doesnt need any extra Find*.cmake as it uses pkg-config to find the 
libs. that doesnt provide a FindFoo.cmake file. It also only builds the QT4 
binary.

I can produce a Windows version (rc1), but I'm also no expert with autoconf. I will try looking at diffs to see what changes we might be missing in 1.6.1 that might be responsible.

Chris


On Jan 8, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:

> Having taken a look at this, I can now get the 1.6.1 to compile using
> gcc 4.5. However I can only get working executables from the qt4
> build.
> 
> The KDE3, GNOME and GTK versions all crash on startup, the "make
> install" command throws errors (apparently it tries to overwrite the
> data directory with itself), the "make uninstall" command also throws
> errors for similar reasons. Presumably the various configuration files
> need a change but the workings of autoreconf are not my speciality!
> 
> GTK/GNOME crash message looks like
> (celestia:27337): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_set_size_request:
> assertion `width >= -1' failed
> 
> KDE crash message just says it has crashed, no useful information is produced.
> 
> Furthermore there is an error in the it.po translation file involving
> the translation of "Globular (core radius: %4.2f', King concentration:
> %4.2f)" - the translation string has a different number of fields in
> it which results in errors, I replaced the translation with "" and it
> seemed to work but this is clearly not an ideal solution.
> 
> Building off the trunk is FAR less problematic! Aside from having to
> add -lDCOP to the ld command line for the KDE version and a couple of
> minor library name changes in celestia.pro, all the interfaces
> (including qt4) build fine.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew
> 
> On 8 January 2011 01:44, Fridger Schrempp <fridger.schrempp@...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Happy new year everyone! What's the current story with 1.6.1?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Andrew
>> 
>> Happy New Year to everyone from me, too!
>> 
>> On Dec. 7 2010,  I exchanged some 1.6.1 related findings and thoughts with
>> Chris that perhaps should be made public here as well:
>> 
>> I found two Celestia@... related build issues.
>> 
>> 1) I tried to compile the 1.6.1 branch in SVN with my /recent/ versions of
>> gcc under openSuSE Linux, which failed at a number of places. Presumably
>> no-one among the devs has ever tried Linux before on 1.6.1 ;-)
>> 
>> One of my gcc compilers (openSuSE 11.2)  is version 4.4.1, while  the other
>> one (openSuSE 11.3) is version 4.5.0. Most other  recent Linux distributions
>> will presumably also be using gcc 4.5.x!
>> 
>> With version 4.4.1 I merely had to add #include <cstdio> in three places and
>> finally there is also an error in the i18 compile step after celestia was
>> built (which I never cared about) . With the actual trunk version this all
>> compiles without problems both with 4.4.1 and 4.5.
>> 
>> The latest gcc 4.5 complains, however, on an /additional/ number  of issues
>> (overlay.h, mesh.cpp,...) for example. So I lost patience eventually, after
>> I posed myself the following principal question:
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Does it make sense at all to release a /first/ dot release (1.6.1) as much
>> as ***1.5 years*** after version 1.6.0!??
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 
>> Since the 1.6.0 release, so many significant intrinsic changes took place in
>> the (trunk) code (e.g. Eigenizing, code reorganizations,...) that in my view
>> a mere bugfix release 1.6.1 so much later might well be interpreted as a
>> rather discrediting sign for lacking Celestia development activity.
>> 
>> I think releasing 1.6.1 makes no sense at this late time. I rather suggest
>> we concentrate all efforts on a first Qt release (1.7.0) as early as
>> possible!
>> 
>> OK, Chris did not share my opinion about skipping the release of 1.6.1.
>> Anyway, since my respective mail on Dec. 7, yet another month has passed
>> without further 1.6.1 pre-release showing up. Chris wanted to look into
>> fixing these Linux issues, but I have heard nothing from him in this respect
>> since.
>> 
>> Fridger
>> 
>> On 01/08/2011 12:10 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Happy new year everyone! What's the current story with 1.6.1?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Andrew
>> 
>> On 4 December 2010 09:56, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> You're welcome.
>> I've committed a last change to the Windows Goto Object dialog
>> to prevent translated strings from being truncated.
>> Also, I just got an email from Norvegian translators who'd like
>> to add their translation to 1.6.1. They should send me their files
>> by tomorrow. Then, I think that we'll be OK for releasing 1.6.1,
>> at least for the Windows package.
>> 
>> Vincent
>> 
>> 
>> Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:
>> 
>> Thank you, Vincent. I will prepare another Windows 1.6.1 package when I
>> return home on Sunday.
>> 
>> Also, I'm working on problems with the slowness of shatters.net. I'm hoping
>> to have them resolved by midweek; if not, we need to come up with some other
>> way to distribute the prerelease package (perhaps just SourceForge?)
>> 
>> --Chris
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:39 PM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>> 
>> I've fixed the copyright information (2009 -> 2010) in the Windows Help
>> menu.
>> As to its translations, I thing that the English copyright string is not
>> that much difficult to understand ;-)
>> 
>> Also, I got a gtk+ interface i18n patch from our Belarusian translator.
>> I suggested him to post it on the Sourceforge bug tracker :
>> 
>> 
>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3103121&group_id=21302&atid=121302
>> 
>> Vincent
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Selon vincent <vince.gian@...>:
>> 
>> Chris wrote :
>> 
>> Aaaand it looks like there's a 2009 in the about box that should be
>> 
>> changed
>> 
>> to 2010...
>> 
>> ...Which will break the copyright string translation in all languages.
>> Nevermind.
>> 
>> Vincent
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've uploaded the Windows 1.6.1 package here:
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.6.1rc0.exe
>> 
>> I made certain to regenerate all of the translated resource files,
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> the
>> 
>> version number seems to be updated in all places where it appears.
>> 
>> --Chris
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for
>> 
>> testing.
>> 
>> --Chris
>> 
>> On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>> 
>> This is fixed now.
>> 
>> @+
>> Vincent
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Vincent wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew wrote:
>> 
>> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
>> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I
>> 
>> guess
>> 
>> this
>> 
>> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B
>> 
>> definition in
>> 
>> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
>> 
>> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it
>> 
>> looks
>> 
>> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
>> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of
>> 
>> the
>> 
>> week.
>> 
>> I'm not home at the moment.
>> 
>> Vincent
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North
>> 
>> America
>> 
>> contest
>> 
>> Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S.
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> Canada
>> 
>> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M
>> 
>> in
>> 
>> marketing
>> 
>> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to
>> 
>> Ovi
>> 
>> Store
>> 
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>> Celestia-developers@...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> What happens now with your Lotus Notes apps - do you make another costly
>> upgrade, or settle for being marooned without product support? Time to move
>> off Lotus Notes and onto the cloud with Force.com, apps are easier to build,
>> use, and manage than apps on traditional platforms. Sign up for the Lotus
>> Notes Migration Kit to learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/salesforce-d2d
>> _______________________________________________
>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>> Celestia-developers@...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any
>> company
>> that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web.   Learn how to
>> best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure
>> and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl
>> _______________________________________________
>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>> Celestia-developers@...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any
>> company
>> that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web.   Learn how to
>> best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure
>> and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Celestia-developers@...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> 
>> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company
> that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web.   Learn how to 
> best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure 
> and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions.
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Fridger wrote:

> That was the same error I pointed out above, in my initiating mail about
> the subject.
> I called it "an error in the i18 compile step"

Ok, thanks for precising. So this one is fixed.

Chris wrote:

> I can produce a Windows version (rc1), but I'm also no expert with autoconf.
> I will try looking at diffs to see what changes we might be missing in 1.6.1
> that might be responsible.

I'd like to check in a last i18n bug fix before releasing the Windows rc1.
It's detailled in the following discussion on the forum:
http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16270

If everybody is OK with this change, I'll be committing it in a couple
of hours.

Vincent


> On Jan 8, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
>
> > Having taken a look at this, I can now get the 1.6.1 to compile using
> > gcc 4.5. However I can only get working executables from the qt4
> > build.
> >
> > The KDE3, GNOME and GTK versions all crash on startup, the "make
> > install" command throws errors (apparently it tries to overwrite the
> > data directory with itself), the "make uninstall" command also throws
> > errors for similar reasons. Presumably the various configuration files
> > need a change but the workings of autoreconf are not my speciality!
> >
> > GTK/GNOME crash message looks like
> > (celestia:27337): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_set_size_request:
> > assertion `width >= -1' failed
> >
> > KDE crash message just says it has crashed, no useful information is
> produced.
> >
> > Furthermore there is an error in the it.po translation file involving
> > the translation of "Globular (core radius: %4.2f', King concentration:
> > %4.2f)" - the translation string has a different number of fields in
> > it which results in errors, I replaced the translation with "" and it
> > seemed to work but this is clearly not an ideal solution.
> >
> > Building off the trunk is FAR less problematic! Aside from having to
> > add -lDCOP to the ld command line for the KDE version and a couple of
> > minor library name changes in celestia.pro, all the interfaces
> > (including qt4) build fine.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew
> >
> > On 8 January 2011 01:44, Fridger Schrempp <fridger.schrempp@...> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Happy new year everyone! What's the current story with 1.6.1?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> Happy New Year to everyone from me, too!
> >>
> >> On Dec. 7 2010,  I exchanged some 1.6.1 related findings and thoughts with
> >> Chris that perhaps should be made public here as well:
> >>
> >> I found two Celestia@... related build issues.
> >>
> >> 1) I tried to compile the 1.6.1 branch in SVN with my /recent/ versions of
> >> gcc under openSuSE Linux, which failed at a number of places. Presumably
> >> no-one among the devs has ever tried Linux before on 1.6.1 ;-)
> >>
> >> One of my gcc compilers (openSuSE 11.2)  is version 4.4.1, while  the
> other
> >> one (openSuSE 11.3) is version 4.5.0. Most other  recent Linux
> distributions
> >> will presumably also be using gcc 4.5.x!
> >>
> >> With version 4.4.1 I merely had to add #include <cstdio> in three places
> and
> >> finally there is also an error in the i18 compile step after celestia was
> >> built (which I never cared about) . With the actual trunk version this all
> >> compiles without problems both with 4.4.1 and 4.5.
> >>
> >> The latest gcc 4.5 complains, however, on an /additional/ number  of
> issues
> >> (overlay.h, mesh.cpp,...) for example. So I lost patience eventually,
> after
> >> I posed myself the following principal question:
> >>
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> Does it make sense at all to release a /first/ dot release (1.6.1) as much
> >> as ***1.5 years*** after version 1.6.0!??
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>
> >> Since the 1.6.0 release, so many significant intrinsic changes took place
> in
> >> the (trunk) code (e.g. Eigenizing, code reorganizations,...) that in my
> view
> >> a mere bugfix release 1.6.1 so much later might well be interpreted as a
> >> rather discrediting sign for lacking Celestia development activity.
> >>
> >> I think releasing 1.6.1 makes no sense at this late time. I rather suggest
> >> we concentrate all efforts on a first Qt release (1.7.0) as early as
> >> possible!
> >>
> >> OK, Chris did not share my opinion about skipping the release of 1.6.1.
> >> Anyway, since my respective mail on Dec. 7, yet another month has passed
> >> without further 1.6.1 pre-release showing up. Chris wanted to look into
> >> fixing these Linux issues, but I have heard nothing from him in this
> respect
> >> since.
> >>
> >> Fridger
> >>
> >> On 01/08/2011 12:10 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Happy new year everyone! What's the current story with 1.6.1?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> On 4 December 2010 09:56, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Chris,
> >>
> >> You're welcome.
> >> I've committed a last change to the Windows Goto Object dialog
> >> to prevent translated strings from being truncated.
> >> Also, I just got an email from Norvegian translators who'd like
> >> to add their translation to 1.6.1. They should send me their files
> >> by tomorrow. Then, I think that we'll be OK for releasing 1.6.1,
> >> at least for the Windows package.
> >>
> >> Vincent
> >>
> >>
> >> Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:
> >>
> >> Thank you, Vincent. I will prepare another Windows 1.6.1 package when I
> >> return home on Sunday.
> >>
> >> Also, I'm working on problems with the slowness of shatters.net. I'm
> hoping
> >> to have them resolved by midweek; if not, we need to come up with some
> other
> >> way to distribute the prerelease package (perhaps just SourceForge?)
> >>
> >> --Chris
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:39 PM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've fixed the copyright information (2009 -> 2010) in the Windows Help
> >> menu.
> >> As to its translations, I thing that the English copyright string is not
> >> that much difficult to understand ;-)
> >>
> >> Also, I got a gtk+ interface i18n patch from our Belarusian translator.
> >> I suggested him to post it on the Sourceforge bug tracker :
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3103121&group_id=21302&atid=121302
> >>
> >> Vincent
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Selon vincent <vince.gian@...>:
> >>
> >> Chris wrote :
> >>
> >> Aaaand it looks like there's a 2009 in the about box that should be
> >>
> >> changed
> >>
> >> to 2010...
> >>
> >> ...Which will break the copyright string translation in all languages.
> >> Nevermind.
> >>
> >> Vincent
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've uploaded the Windows 1.6.1 package here:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-win32-1.6.1rc0.exe
> >>
> >> I made certain to regenerate all of the translated resource files,
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> the
> >>
> >> version number seems to be updated in all places where it appears.
> >>
> >> --Chris
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Vincent! I will create a 1.6.1 Windows build tomorrow for
> >>
> >> testing.
> >>
> >> --Chris
> >>
> >> On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:28 AM, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is fixed now.
> >>
> >> @+
> >> Vincent
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Vincent wrote:
> >>
> >> Andrew wrote:
> >>
> >> Translation issue was brought up in the forums
> >> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16183 - I
> >>
> >> guess
> >>
> >> this
> >>
> >> is caused by the double colon in the Alula Australis B
> >>
> >> definition in
> >>
> >> newstars.stc? This is fixed in trunk but remains in 1.6.1.
> >>
> >> I fixed quite a few of these colon issues a while ago, but it
> >>
> >> looks
> >>
> >> like some of them are still present. I'll take care of fixing the
> >> Alula Australis B definition in the 1.6.1 branch by the end of
> >>
> >> the
> >>
> >> week.
> >>
> >> I'm not home at the moment.
> >>
> >> Vincent
> >>
> >>
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On 08/01/11 11:52 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> The KDE3, GNOME and GTK versions all crash on startup, the "make
> install" command throws errors (apparently it tries to overwrite the
> data directory with itself), the "make uninstall" command also throws
> errors for similar reasons. Presumably the various configuration files
> need a change but the workings of autoreconf are not my speciality!

I found this hard to believe, until I re-read it and noticed that you're 
not talking about trunk. Both GTK and KDE crash when the data directory 
cannot be found, so it goes quite well with the other symptoms you 
reported. I guess I'll take a closer look at the branch tomorrow.

Branches are generally only good when they less than a few months from 
their parent...

--Pat

On 08/01/11 11:52 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> Having taken a look at this, I can now get the 1.6.1 to compile using
> gcc 4.5. However I can only get working executables from the qt4
> build.

Alright, I've made it work with gcc 4.4.5 (Debian is skipping 4.5 and 
going straight to 4.6, but not just yet). The diff was simple (attached) 
and committed.

I've also bumped the configure.in version to 1.6.1.

I've noticed that 1.6.0 is still referenced in the MacOS Info.plist. 
Also, though I'm not sure it matters, spectbins.pl and visualbins.pl.

Let's try to get this out really soon. When all is taken into account, 
there is a 174000 line diff between trunk and the branch at this point. 
Though a lot of that is silliness, like the iss file being completely 
different because someone added ^M line breaks all over it.

--Pat

I confirm the compilation works for the GNOME and KDE versions after
the patch works, however the KDE version does not seem to get the
splash screen after make install and puts up a dialog box warning me
of this every time I run.

In gcc 4.5 I need to make the attached changes to get compilation to
work (including for Qt4), in addition I need to use

make LDFLAGS="-ldl"

to get the linker to work for GNOME, and

make LDFLAGS="-ldl -lDCOP"

for KDE. Again for KDE the splash screen directory could not be found
by the installed executable.

Regards,
Andrew

On 12 January 2011 18:28, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> On 08/01/11 11:52 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
>>
>> Having taken a look at this, I can now get the 1.6.1 to compile using
>> gcc 4.5. However I can only get working executables from the qt4
>> build.
>
> Alright, I've made it work with gcc 4.4.5 (Debian is skipping 4.5 and going
> straight to 4.6, but not just yet). The diff was simple (attached) and
> committed.
>
> I've also bumped the configure.in version to 1.6.1.
>
> I've noticed that 1.6.0 is still referenced in the MacOS Info.plist. Also,
> though I'm not sure it matters, spectbins.pl and visualbins.pl.
>
> Let's try to get this out really soon. When all is taken into account, there
> is a 174000 line diff between trunk and the branch at this point. Though a
> lot of that is silliness, like the iss file being completely different
> because someone added ^M line breaks all over it.
>
> --Pat
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On 12/01/11 03:23 PM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> make LDFLAGS="-ldl"

You should never have to do that. That really should be implicit!

I wonder if the problem isn't the really old libtool and macros that is 
absolutely required to be able to build for old KDE. I really don't 
think we can keep that up much more. To be clear, are you using 
"autoreconf -ivf", the force parameter being the important one?

I haven't tried the Qt build. I'll give that a shot maybe later today. 
I'll also try 4.5 on Ubuntu shortly.

I'd really like to rip the old KDE stuff out of trunk at some point 
soon, though I know it's a very featured front-end, it just cannot be 
maintained, short of moving it to KDE4 (which then causes a cmake mess).

--Pat

I hadn't been using the force parameter, I didn't know that was required.

Here is the output I get from running "autoreconf -ivf", not sure if
this is going to be of any use (I have to say this entire system is a
complete mystery to me):

autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
autoreconf: configure.in: not using Gettext
autoreconf: running: aclocal --force -I macros
autoreconf: configure.in: tracing
autoreconf: configure.in: AM_GNU_GETTEXT is used, but not AM_GNU_GETTEXT_VERSION
autoreconf: running: libtoolize --install --copy --force
libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR, `admin'.
libtoolize: copying file `admin/config.guess'
libtoolize: copying file `admin/config.sub'
libtoolize: copying file `admin/install-sh'
libtoolize: copying file `admin/ltmain.sh'
libtoolize: putting macros in `macros'.
libtoolize: copying file `macros/libtool.m4'
libtoolize: You should add the contents of `macros/libtool.m4' to `aclocal.m4'.
libtoolize: copying file `macros/ltoptions.m4'
libtoolize: You should add the contents of `macros/ltoptions.m4' to
`aclocal.m4'.
libtoolize: copying file `macros/ltsugar.m4'
libtoolize: You should add the contents of `macros/ltsugar.m4' to `aclocal.m4'.
libtoolize: copying file `macros/ltversion.m4'
libtoolize: copying file `macros/lt~obsolete.m4'
libtoolize: You should add the contents of `macros/lt~obsolete.m4' to
`aclocal.m4'.
libtoolize: Consider adding `AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR([m4])' to configure.in and
libtoolize: rerunning libtoolize, to keep the correct libtool macros in-tree.
autoreconf: running: /usr/bin/autoconf --force
autoreconf: running: /usr/bin/autoheader --force
autoreconf: running: automake --add-missing --copy --force-missing
autoreconf: Leaving directory `.'

Nevertheless using "autoreconf -ivf" instead of "autoreconf -iv"
yields the same result under gcc-4.5 when it comes to running ld:

/usr/bin/ld: ../celengine/libcelengine.a(glext.o): undefined reference
to symbol 'dlclose@...'
/usr/bin/ld: note: 'dlclose@...' is defined in DSO
//lib64/libdl.so.2 so try adding it to the linker command line
//lib64/libdl.so.2: could not read symbols: Invalid operation

To clarify, this problem only occurs on gcc-4.5, under gcc-4.4 it is fine.

Regards,
Andrew

On 12 January 2011 22:10, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> On 12/01/11 03:23 PM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
>> make LDFLAGS="-ldl"
>
> You should never have to do that. That really should be implicit!
>
> I wonder if the problem isn't the really old libtool and macros that is
> absolutely required to be able to build for old KDE. I really don't
> think we can keep that up much more. To be clear, are you using
> "autoreconf -ivf", the force parameter being the important one?
>
> I haven't tried the Qt build. I'll give that a shot maybe later today.
> I'll also try 4.5 on Ubuntu shortly.
>
> I'd really like to rip the old KDE stuff out of trunk at some point
> soon, though I know it's a very featured front-end, it just cannot be
> maintained, short of moving it to KDE4 (which then causes a cmake mess).
>
> --Pat
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Andrew, Pat,

On 01/12/2011 10:10 PM, Pat Suwalski wrote:
> On 12/01/11 03:23 PM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
>   
>> make LDFLAGS="-ldl"
>>     
> You should never have to do that. That really should be implicit!
>
> I wonder if the problem isn't the really old libtool and macros that is 
> absolutely required to be able to build for old KDE. I really don't 
> think we can keep that up much more.
>   
after having triggered off this whole Linux discussion about the 1.6.1
branch, I also took a little more time and completed the required fixes
for a compilation with gcc 4.5 within OpenSuSE 11.3.
Actually, my fixes are identical to the ones by Pat that I just
inspected. The compilation with gcc 4.5 now works perfectly.

I really don't understand Pat's statement about eliminating the KDE
version of Celestia. Unlike Andrew, I don't have the slightest problems
to compile, install and run the KDE version of 1.6.1 as compiled with
gcc 4.5 (after applying the fixes). The KDE version is still the most
advanced Linux version, notably because of its comfortable bookmark
feature. Very soon, we won't  need any KDE, GTK or GNOME maintaining
anymore because of the switching to Celestia-Qt.

Perhaps Andrew was unaware that the configure statement often requires
the addition of the standard KDE3 system include dir,

./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-kde --with-lua
--with-cspice-dir=/usr/local/cspice CXXFLAGS="-I /opt/kde3/include"
Anyway, this is my configure statement that I use since many years for
Celestia-KDE.

Moreover it should be remembered that the symbolic link in the
/usr/local/share/apps directory

celestia -> /usr/local/share/celestia

is required.

Anyway I explicitly checked 'make install' after the compilation of
Celestia-KDE-1.6.1 and everything now works as with the trunk version.
The above symbolic link must be removed before a 'make install'. It will
be replaced during the installing.

Of course there is no need of  

LDFLAGS="-ldl"

Fridger



> I haven't tried the Qt build. I'll give that a shot maybe later today. 
> I'll also try 4.5 on Ubuntu shortly.
>
> I'd really like to rip the old KDE stuff out of trunk at some point 
> soon, though I know it's a very featured front-end, it just cannot be 
> maintained, short of moving it to KDE4 (which then causes a cmake mess).
>
> --Pat
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On 13/01/11 10:16 AM, Fridger Schrempp wrote:
> I really don't understand Pat's statement about eliminating the KDE
> version of Celestia. Unlike Andrew, I don't have the slightest problems
> to compile, install and run the KDE version of 1.6.1 as compiled with
> gcc 4.5 (after applying the fixes). The KDE version is still the most
> advanced Linux version, notably because of its comfortable bookmark
> feature. Very soon, we won't  need any KDE, GTK or GNOME maintaining
> anymore because of the switching to Celestia-Qt.

I simply mean that their code and m4 macros are required for building. 
Essentially, we're using an old KDE-specific acinclude.m4 and a number 
of hacks in the admin/ directory that get thrown over.

We have already had this fail once 20 months ago, and it will happen 
again. Those files generated autotools files should not be in SVN, they 
should be copied in from the system during the autoreconf stage (-f 
should not be required if they are not there). However, the replacements 
can break the KDE build.

So, that is the ongoing dilemma. It is also one of the main reasons KDE 
went to cmake.

Yes, if we could just get rid of them, great. But then the KDE frontend 
will not build. It will probably become necessary at some point, though, 
when the provided macros no longer work (example: new automake comes out).

--Pat

Maybe I wasn't being specific here, but I need to use the
LDFLAGS="-ldl" for GNOME. For KDE I needed to use -lDCOP as well (this
latter one might be because Ubuntu no longer provides the aRts
development libraries).

Nevertheless I experience none of these issues with the trunk version.
I'm able to do the following without encountering errors:

autoreconf -ivf
./configure --with-gnome
make
sudo make install

For KDE thanks to Ubuntu not having aRts I use

autoreconf -ivf
./configure --with-kde --without-arts CXXFLAGS="-lDCOP"
make
sudo make install

Andrew

On 13 January 2011 17:27, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> On 13/01/11 10:16 AM, Fridger Schrempp wrote:
>> I really don't understand Pat's statement about eliminating the KDE
>> version of Celestia. Unlike Andrew, I don't have the slightest problems
>> to compile, install and run the KDE version of 1.6.1 as compiled with
>> gcc 4.5 (after applying the fixes). The KDE version is still the most
>> advanced Linux version, notably because of its comfortable bookmark
>> feature. Very soon, we won't  need any KDE, GTK or GNOME maintaining
>> anymore because of the switching to Celestia-Qt.
>
> I simply mean that their code and m4 macros are required for building.
> Essentially, we're using an old KDE-specific acinclude.m4 and a number
> of hacks in the admin/ directory that get thrown over.
>
> We have already had this fail once 20 months ago, and it will happen
> again. Those files generated autotools files should not be in SVN, they
> should be copied in from the system during the autoreconf stage (-f
> should not be required if they are not there). However, the replacements
> can break the KDE build.
>
> So, that is the ongoing dilemma. It is also one of the main reasons KDE
> went to cmake.
>
> Yes, if we could just get rid of them, great. But then the KDE frontend
> will not build. It will probably become necessary at some point, though,
> when the provided macros no longer work (example: new automake comes out).
>
> --Pat
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On 13/01/11 03:22 PM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> Maybe I wasn't being specific here, but I need to use the
> LDFLAGS="-ldl" for GNOME. For KDE I needed to use -lDCOP as well (this
> latter one might be because Ubuntu no longer provides the aRts
> development libraries).

Turns out you're right about the -ldl. I had to go to some pains to 
install gcc-4.5 on Ubuntu 10.10, then then run configure with CC=gcc-4.5 
and CXX=g++-4.5.

Anyway, yes, -ldl is needed. The reason is that dlopen() and dlclose() 
are used in glext.cpp, but *only* in the ver1_6_1 branch. I don't know 
how this has worked with gcc-4.4, but it must have to do with their 
continuing efforts to limit recursive overlinking.

I'm not sure why glext has changed like this, but there is a simple 
solution with a bit of documentation in the Pidgin configure.ac:

dnl FreeBSD doesn't have libdl, dlopen is provided by libc
AC_CHECK_FUNC(dlopen, LIBDL="", [AC_CHECK_LIB(dl, dlopen, LIBDL="-ldl")])

That will be put into the configure.in, and the Makefile will be 
adjusted. I've also noticed that we're explicitly linking against all 
sorts of old X11 libraries and libm and so on that should not be there. 
I'm working in a patch that will break up the $LIBS variable and not 
overlink everything. (For example, buildstardb gets linked against Lua, 
OpenGL, and GTK, GNOME, or KDE for no reason).

--Pat

Alright, I've checked in my changes to the 1.6.1 branch. Assuming there 
are no other issues, I think it's good for a release, wouldn't you?

I've put up a "make dist" tarball:

   http://pat.suwalski.net/temp/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz

I've only tested building on Linux, so hopefully others can see that 
nothing is missing elsewhere.

--Pat

Thank you for all your work on getting 1.6.1. operational on Linux.

I'm trying to build a Windows package, but I'm having some trouble with my
hardware (unfortunately, I think that I may need to replace the
motherboard.)

--Chris

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:

> Alright, I've checked in my changes to the 1.6.1 branch. Assuming there
> are no other issues, I think it's good for a release, wouldn't you?
>
> I've put up a "make dist" tarball:
>
>   http://pat.suwalski.net/temp/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>
> I've only tested building on Linux, so hopefully others can see that
> nothing is missing elsewhere.
>
> --Pat
>
>
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For gcc 4.5, the v1.6.1 source needed another #include <cstdio> in the
spiceinterface.cpp file, so I've committed that.

Regards,
Andrew

On 21 January 2011 18:36, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> Thank you for all your work on getting 1.6.1. operational on Linux.
> I'm trying to build a Windows package, but I'm having some trouble with my
> hardware (unfortunately, I think that I may need to replace the
> motherboard.)
> --Chris
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>>
>> Alright, I've checked in my changes to the 1.6.1 branch. Assuming there
>> are no other issues, I think it's good for a release, wouldn't you?
>>
>> I've put up a "make dist" tarball:
>>
>>   http://pat.suwalski.net/temp/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>>
>> I've only tested building on Linux, so hopefully others can see that
>> nothing is missing elsewhere.
>>
>> --Pat
>>
>>
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Hi,

There also seems to be a problem building under VS 2010, in vecgl.h
there are several lines (92, 97, 102, 113, 119) where the & operator
is used to take the address of a temporary object, the compiler is
objecting to that with the error "C2102: '&' requires l-value". No
such problem in trunk because of Eigen-isation.

Regards,
Andrew

On 21 January 2011 22:59, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
> For gcc 4.5, the v1.6.1 source needed another #include <cstdio> in the
> spiceinterface.cpp file, so I've committed that.
>
> Regards,
> Andrew
>
> On 21 January 2011 18:36, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>> Thank you for all your work on getting 1.6.1. operational on Linux.
>> I'm trying to build a Windows package, but I'm having some trouble with my
>> hardware (unfortunately, I think that I may need to replace the
>> motherboard.)
>> --Chris
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Alright, I've checked in my changes to the 1.6.1 branch. Assuming there
>>> are no other issues, I think it's good for a release, wouldn't you?
>>>
>>> I've put up a "make dist" tarball:
>>>
>>>   http://pat.suwalski.net/temp/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>>>
>>> I've only tested building on Linux, so hopefully others can see that
>>> nothing is missing elsewhere.
>>>
>>> --Pat
>>>
>>>
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Ok here's a patch for v1.6.1 which fixes this (turns out to be less
evil than I was expecting when I noticed this issue yesterday), please
check to make sure I'm not doing anything silly here.

Regards,
Andrew

On 22 January 2011 01:14, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There also seems to be a problem building under VS 2010, in vecgl.h
> there are several lines (92, 97, 102, 113, 119) where the & operator
> is used to take the address of a temporary object, the compiler is
> objecting to that with the error "C2102: '&' requires l-value". No
> such problem in trunk because of Eigen-isation.
>
> Regards,
> Andrew
>
> On 21 January 2011 22:59, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
>> For gcc 4.5, the v1.6.1 source needed another #include <cstdio> in the
>> spiceinterface.cpp file, so I've committed that.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 21 January 2011 18:36, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>>> Thank you for all your work on getting 1.6.1. operational on Linux.
>>> I'm trying to build a Windows package, but I'm having some trouble with my
>>> hardware (unfortunately, I think that I may need to replace the
>>> motherboard.)
>>> --Chris
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Alright, I've checked in my changes to the 1.6.1 branch. Assuming there
>>>> are no other issues, I think it's good for a release, wouldn't you?
>>>>
>>>> I've put up a "make dist" tarball:
>>>>
>>>>   http://pat.suwalski.net/temp/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>>>>
>>>> I've only tested building on Linux, so hopefully others can see that
>>>> nothing is missing elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> --Pat
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>

Chris, is this something we want to check in for 1.6.1? I'd say it's 
worth it, and then release this week.

I might be internetless on a beach in Cuba next week. :)

--Pat

On 22/01/11 09:49 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> Ok here's a patch for v1.6.1 which fixes this (turns out to be less
> evil than I was expecting when I noticed this issue yesterday), please
> check to make sure I'm not doing anything silly here.
>
> Regards,
> Andrew
>
> On 22 January 2011 01:14, Andrew Tribick<ajtribick@...>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> There also seems to be a problem building under VS 2010, in vecgl.h
>> there are several lines (92, 97, 102, 113, 119) where the&  operator
>> is used to take the address of a temporary object, the compiler is
>> objecting to that with the error "C2102: '&' requires l-value". No
>> such problem in trunk because of Eigen-isation.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 21 January 2011 22:59, Andrew Tribick<ajtribick@...>  wrote:
>>> For gcc 4.5, the v1.6.1 source needed another #include<cstdio>  in the
>>> spiceinterface.cpp file, so I've committed that.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> On 21 January 2011 18:36, Chris Laurel<claurel@...>  wrote:
>>>> Thank you for all your work on getting 1.6.1. operational on Linux.
>>>> I'm trying to build a Windows package, but I'm having some trouble with my
>>>> hardware (unfortunately, I think that I may need to replace the
>>>> motherboard.)
>>>> --Chris
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Pat Suwalski<pat@...>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Alright, I've checked in my changes to the 1.6.1 branch. Assuming there
>>>>> are no other issues, I think it's good for a release, wouldn't you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've put up a "make dist" tarball:
>>>>>
>>>>>    http://pat.suwalski.net/temp/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>>>>>
>>>>> I've only tested building on Linux, so hopefully others can see that
>>>>> nothing is missing elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Pat
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>
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On 24/01/11 12:34 PM, Pat Suwalski wrote:
> Chris, is this something we want to check in for 1.6.1? I'd say it's
> worth it, and then release this week.

Also, the Info.plist and README.rtf for MacOSX still reference 1.6.0. 
Shall I update them to 1.6.1?

--Pat

Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm quite
surprised other compilers haven't complained about this problem.

--Chris

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:

> Chris, is this something we want to check in for 1.6.1? I'd say it's
> worth it, and then release this week.
>
> I might be internetless on a beach in Cuba next week. :)
>
> --Pat
>
> On 22/01/11 09:49 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> > Ok here's a patch for v1.6.1 which fixes this (turns out to be less
> > evil than I was expecting when I noticed this issue yesterday), please
> > check to make sure I'm not doing anything silly here.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew
> >
> > On 22 January 2011 01:14, Andrew Tribick<ajtribick@...>
>  wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> There also seems to be a problem building under VS 2010, in vecgl.h
> >> there are several lines (92, 97, 102, 113, 119) where the&  operator
> >> is used to take the address of a temporary object, the compiler is
> >> objecting to that with the error "C2102: '&' requires l-value". No
> >> such problem in trunk because of Eigen-isation.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> On 21 January 2011 22:59, Andrew Tribick<ajtribick@...>
>  wrote:
> >>> For gcc 4.5, the v1.6.1 source needed another #include<cstdio>  in the
> >>> spiceinterface.cpp file, so I've committed that.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Andrew
> >>>
> >>> On 21 January 2011 18:36, Chris Laurel<claurel@...>  wrote:
> >>>> Thank you for all your work on getting 1.6.1. operational on Linux.
> >>>> I'm trying to build a Windows package, but I'm having some trouble
> with my
> >>>> hardware (unfortunately, I think that I may need to replace the
> >>>> motherboard.)
> >>>> --Chris
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Pat Suwalski<pat@...>
>  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alright, I've checked in my changes to the 1.6.1 branch. Assuming
> there
> >>>>> are no other issues, I think it's good for a release, wouldn't you?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've put up a "make dist" tarball:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    http://pat.suwalski.net/temp/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've only tested building on Linux, so hopefully others can see that
> >>>>> nothing is missing elsewhere.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --Pat
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
> correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
> quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this problem.

Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:

   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz

The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.

--Pat

Pat,

when I type 'make distclean' in r5127, I get an error at the end
...
Making distclean in qt
*** No rule to make target 'distclean'
...
So it appears that you forgot to include the distclean target!

Fridger

On 01/25/2011 06:28 PM, Pat Suwalski wrote:
> On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>   
>> Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
>> correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
>> quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this problem.
>>     
> Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
>
>    http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>
> The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
>
> --Pat
>
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On 26/01/11 06:16 AM, Fridger Schrempp wrote:
> 'make distclean' only produces an error in the qt dir when celestia-kde
> is used.
> ...
> So it appears that you forgot to include the distclean target!

Sounds like something the wonderful autotools-breaking scripts in the 
KDE3 build (admin) dir do. You should never have to actually define 
distclean unless you plan to do something out of the ordinary.

I will look into it.

--Pat

On 26/01/11 06:16 AM, Fridger Schrempp wrote:
> 'make distclean' only produces an error in the qt dir when celestia-kde
> is used.

I'm not seeing this, and my src/celestia/qt/Makefile definitely has a 
distclean target. I can't explain why you wouldn't have it.

--Pat

I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the change. I
also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the redefinition of
UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.

I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version of Celestia
1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be here:

http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg

I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's smaller than
1.6.0.

I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing problems with
my Windows system.

--Chris

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:

> On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
> > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
> > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this problem.
>
> Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
>
>   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>
> The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
>
> --Pat
>
>
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Seems to run fine on my Mac.

--Pat

On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:

> I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the change. I also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the redefinition of UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
> 
> I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version of Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be here:
> 
> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
> 
> I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's smaller than 1.6.0.
> 
> I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing problems with my Windows system.
> 
> --Chris
> 
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
> > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
> > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this problem.
> 
> Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
> 
>   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
> 
> The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
> 
> --Pat
> 
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Since the better part of a week I am getting  a "The connection was
reset, The connection to the server was reset while the page was
loading." error at the SVN URL;

http://celestia.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/celestia/

Anybody else with the same problem?

Moreover I got an email from SF that looks quite like a phishing mail.
They want new SF passwords by referring to an /email link/ ! Looks quite
unprofessional if true.

Anybody got the same email?

Fridger

---------  This is the mail I got ------------------------------

Hello,

We recently experienced a directed attack on SourceForge infrastructure
(http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-net-attack/) and so we are
resetting all passwords in the sf.net database -- just in case.  We're
e-mailing all sf.net registered account holders to let you know about this
change to your account. 

Our investigation uncovered evidence of password sniffing attempts. We have
no evidence to suggest that your password has been compromised. But, what
we definitely don't want is to find out in 2 months that passwords were
compromised and we didn't take action.

So, as a proactive measure we've invalidated your SourceForge.net account
password. To access the site again, you'll need to go through the email
recovery process and choose a shiny new password:

https://sourceforge.net/account/registration/recover.php

If you need help with this, feel free to e-mail us:

sfnet_ops@...

We appreciate your patience with us as we work to respond to this attack. 
We'll be working through the weekend to get things back to normal as
quickly as possible.

Watch for updates on the service outages on our blog:

http://sourceforge.net/blog/

Thank you,
The SourceForge Team

Yes I got that email. The login window on the SourceForge.net main
page also has a box with the password reset link in it.

Andrew

On 29 January 2011 12:06, Fridger Schrempp <fridger.schrempp@...> wrote:
> Since the better part of a week I am getting  a "The connection was reset,
> The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading." error at
> the SVN URL;
>
> http://celestia.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/celestia/
>
> Anybody else with the same problem?
>
> Moreover I got an email from SF that looks quite like a phishing mail. They
> want new SF passwords by referring to an /email link/ ! Looks quite
> unprofessional if true.
>
> Anybody got the same email?
>
> Fridger
>
> ---------  This is the mail I got ------------------------------
>
> Hello,
>
> We recently experienced a directed attack on SourceForge infrastructure
> (http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-net-attack/) and so we are
> resetting all passwords in the sf.net database -- just in case.  We're
> e-mailing all sf.net registered account holders to let you know about this
> change to your account.
>
> Our investigation uncovered evidence of password sniffing attempts. We have
> no evidence to suggest that your password has been compromised. But, what
> we definitely don't want is to find out in 2 months that passwords were
> compromised and we didn't take action.
>
> So, as a proactive measure we've invalidated your SourceForge.net account
> password. To access the site again, you'll need to go through the email
> recovery process and choose a shiny new password:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/account/registration/recover.php
>
> If you need help with this, feel free to e-mail us:
>
> sfnet_ops@...
>
> We appreciate your patience with us as we work to respond to this attack.
> We'll be working through the weekend to get things back to normal as
> quickly as possible.
>
> Watch for updates on the service outages on our blog:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/blog/
>
> Thank you,
> The SourceForge Team
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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On 01/29/2011 12:31 PM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> Yes I got that email. The login window on the SourceForge.net main
> page also has a box with the password reset link in it.
>
> Andrew
>
>   
Yes, thanks, I also found meanwhile that the SF action was safe. But can
you get to
 

http://celestia.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/celestia/

right now?

Fridger


> On 29 January 2011 12:06, Fridger Schrempp <fridger.schrempp@...> wrote:
>   
>> Since the better part of a week I am getting  a "The connection was reset,
>> The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading." error at
>> the SVN URL;
>>
>> http://celestia.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/celestia/
>>
>> Anybody else with the same problem?
>>
>> Moreover I got an email from SF that looks quite like a phishing mail. They
>> want new SF passwords by referring to an /email link/ ! Looks quite
>> unprofessional if true.
>>
>> Anybody got the same email?
>>
>> Fridger
>>
>> ---------  This is the mail I got ------------------------------
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We recently experienced a directed attack on SourceForge infrastructure
>> (http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-net-attack/) and so we are
>> resetting all passwords in the sf.net database -- just in case.  We're
>> e-mailing all sf.net registered account holders to let you know about this
>> change to your account.
>>
>> Our investigation uncovered evidence of password sniffing attempts. We have
>> no evidence to suggest that your password has been compromised. But, what
>> we definitely don't want is to find out in 2 months that passwords were
>> compromised and we didn't take action.
>>
>> So, as a proactive measure we've invalidated your SourceForge.net account
>> password. To access the site again, you'll need to go through the email
>> recovery process and choose a shiny new password:
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/account/registration/recover.php
>>
>> If you need help with this, feel free to e-mail us:
>>
>> sfnet_ops@...
>>
>> We appreciate your patience with us as we work to respond to this attack.
>> We'll be working through the weekend to get things back to normal as
>> quickly as possible.
>>
>> Watch for updates on the service outages on our blog:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/blog/
>>
>> Thank you,
>> The SourceForge Team
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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According to the blog post
http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-net-attack/ ViewVC is one of
the services that has been taken offline since the attack.

Andrew

On 29 January 2011 13:50, Fridger Schrempp <fridger.schrempp@...> wrote:
> On 01/29/2011 12:31 PM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
>
> Yes I got that email. The login window on the SourceForge.net main
> page also has a box with the password reset link in it.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> Yes, thanks, I also found meanwhile that the SF action was safe. But can you
> get to
>
>
> http://celestia.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/celestia/
>
> right now?
>
> Fridger
>
> On 29 January 2011 12:06, Fridger Schrempp <fridger.schrempp@...> wrote:
>
>
> Since the better part of a week I am getting  a "The connection was reset,
> The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading." error at
> the SVN URL;
>
> http://celestia.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/celestia/
>
> Anybody else with the same problem?
>
> Moreover I got an email from SF that looks quite like a phishing mail. They
> want new SF passwords by referring to an /email link/ ! Looks quite
> unprofessional if true.
>
> Anybody got the same email?
>
> Fridger
>
> ---------  This is the mail I got ------------------------------
>
> Hello,
>
> We recently experienced a directed attack on SourceForge infrastructure
> (http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-net-attack/) and so we are
> resetting all passwords in the sf.net database -- just in case.  We're
> e-mailing all sf.net registered account holders to let you know about this
> change to your account.
>
> Our investigation uncovered evidence of password sniffing attempts. We have
> no evidence to suggest that your password has been compromised. But, what
> we definitely don't want is to find out in 2 months that passwords were
> compromised and we didn't take action.
>
> So, as a proactive measure we've invalidated your SourceForge.net account
> password. To access the site again, you'll need to go through the email
> recovery process and choose a shiny new password:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/account/registration/recover.php
>
> If you need help with this, feel free to e-mail us:
>
> sfnet_ops@...
>
> We appreciate your patience with us as we work to respond to this attack.
> We'll be working through the weekend to get things back to normal as
> quickly as possible.
>
> Watch for updates on the service outages on our blog:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/blog/
>
> Thank you,
> The SourceForge Team
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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On 11-01-29 06:06 AM, Fridger Schrempp wrote:
> Since the better part of a week I am getting a "The connection was
> reset, The connection to the server was reset while the page was
> loading." error at the SVN URL;

This has not been problematic for me this week.

> Moreover I got an email from SF that looks quite like a phishing mail.
> They want new SF passwords by referring to an /email link/ ! Looks quite
> unprofessional if true.
>
> Anybody got the same email?

I didn't get this. The only things I get that are fishy is that someone 
out there still has a Celestia directory in their virus-prone mailbox 
(for the last five years). I get a lot of random old-skool virus eMails 
allegedly from cweisbrod@..., t00fri@..., and chris@.... I 
think I brought this issue up in 2006. :)

--Pat

Ok I'm taking a look at getting the Windows installer set up with Inno
Setup while Chris's Windows system is out of action. I've got VS2010
compiling using vc90 which should hopefully avoid runtime versioning
issues. Next thing I'm not sure about is the localisation - the Inno
Setup script points to a whole group of .dll files in the locale
directory, e.g. res_ar.dll, etc. I do not have these dll files,
presumably I need to compile them somehow?

Andrew

On 29 January 2011 02:47, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> Seems to run fine on my Mac.
>
> --Pat
>
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
>
>> I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the change. I also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the redefinition of UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
>>
>> I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version of Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be here:
>>
>> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
>>
>> I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's smaller than 1.6.0.
>>
>> I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing problems with my Windows system.
>>
>> --Chris
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>> On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
>> > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
>> > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this problem.
>>
>> Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
>>
>>   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>>
>> The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
>>
>> --Pat
>>
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Andrew wrote :

> Next thing I'm not sure about is the localisation - the Inno
> Setup script points to a whole group of .dll files in the locale
> directory, e.g. res_ar.dll, etc. I do not have these dll files,
> presumably I need to compile them somehow?

Andrew,

You'll find some help about how to build res_LL.dll files on the
Celestia Wikibook i18n page :
http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Celestia/Internationalization&stable=0

See more particularly the "Building internationalization files
from the source in MS Windows" section.

Vincent


> On 29 January 2011 02:47, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> > Seems to run fine on my Mac.
> >
> > --Pat
> >
> > On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
> >
> >> I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the change. I
> also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the redefinition of
> UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
> >>
> >> I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version of
> Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be here:
> >>
> >> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
> >>
> >> I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's smaller than
> 1.6.0.
> >>
> >> I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing problems
> with my Windows system.
> >>
> >> --Chris
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> >> On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> >> > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
> >> > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
> >> > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this problem.
> >>
> >> Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
> >>
> >>   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
> >>
> >> The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
> >>
> >> --Pat
> >>
> >>
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Hi,

I found that link just now... I think this should be linked from the
Wiki development page (I'll do it if I can remember the password for
my account...)

I now have what as far as I can tell is a working Windows installer
for 1.6.1. Just need somewhere to upload it.

Andrew

On 30 January 2011 17:22, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> Andrew wrote :
>
>> Next thing I'm not sure about is the localisation - the Inno
>> Setup script points to a whole group of .dll files in the locale
>> directory, e.g. res_ar.dll, etc. I do not have these dll files,
>> presumably I need to compile them somehow?
>
> Andrew,
>
> You'll find some help about how to build res_LL.dll files on the
> Celestia Wikibook i18n page :
> http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Celestia/Internationalization&stable=0
>
> See more particularly the "Building internationalization files
> from the source in MS Windows" section.
>
> Vincent
>
>
>> On 29 January 2011 02:47, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>> > Seems to run fine on my Mac.
>> >
>> > --Pat
>> >
>> > On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> >
>> >> I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the change. I
>> also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the redefinition of
>> UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
>> >>
>> >> I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version of
>> Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be here:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
>> >>
>> >> I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's smaller than
>> 1.6.0.
>> >>
>> >> I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing problems
>> with my Windows system.
>> >>
>> >> --Chris
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>> >> On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> >> > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
>> >> > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
>> >> > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this problem.
>> >>
>> >> Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
>> >>
>> >>   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>> >>
>> >> The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
>> >>
>> >> --Pat
>> >>
>> >>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
>> price-free!
>> >> Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>> >> February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Celestia-developers mailing list
>> >> Celestia-developers@...
>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
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>> > Celestia-developers@...
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>> >
>>
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>>
>
>
>

Ok I've currently got the Win32 installer hosted on Ubuntu One at
http://ubuntuone.com/p/avW/

Andrew

On 30 January 2011 17:29, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I found that link just now... I think this should be linked from the
> Wiki development page (I'll do it if I can remember the password for
> my account...)
>
> I now have what as far as I can tell is a working Windows installer
> for 1.6.1. Just need somewhere to upload it.
>
> Andrew
>
> On 30 January 2011 17:22, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>> Andrew wrote :
>>
>>> Next thing I'm not sure about is the localisation - the Inno
>>> Setup script points to a whole group of .dll files in the locale
>>> directory, e.g. res_ar.dll, etc. I do not have these dll files,
>>> presumably I need to compile them somehow?
>>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> You'll find some help about how to build res_LL.dll files on the
>> Celestia Wikibook i18n page :
>> http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Celestia/Internationalization&stable=0
>>
>> See more particularly the "Building internationalization files
>> from the source in MS Windows" section.
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>>
>>> On 29 January 2011 02:47, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>>> > Seems to run fine on my Mac.
>>> >
>>> > --Pat
>>> >
>>> > On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the change. I
>>> also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the redefinition of
>>> UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version of
>>> Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be here:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
>>> >>
>>> >> I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's smaller than
>>> 1.6.0.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing problems
>>> with my Windows system.
>>> >>
>>> >> --Chris
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>>> >> On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>>> >> > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
>>> >> > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
>>> >> > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this problem.
>>> >>
>>> >> Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
>>> >>
>>> >>   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>>> >>
>>> >> The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
>>> >>
>>> >> --Pat
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
>>> >> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
>>> price-free!
>>> >> Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>>> >> February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>>> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> Celestia-developers mailing list
>>> >> Celestia-developers@...
>>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
>>> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
>>> price-free!
>>> > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>>> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Celestia-developers mailing list
>>> > Celestia-developers@...
>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>> >
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
>>> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free!
>>> Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>>> February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>>> Celestia-developers@...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Andrew,

I just installed and tested v1.6.1 from the win32 installer you've built.
It seems to run fine and all the translation files seem to be present.
There's one issue though : the user guide can't be reached from the Help
menu because the help/ folder that contains the html version
of the Celestia Guide is missing. Adding it to the Inno Setup script
should fix this.

Vincent


Selon Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...>:

> Ok I've currently got the Win32 installer hosted on Ubuntu One at
> http://ubuntuone.com/p/avW/
>
> Andrew
>
> On 30 January 2011 17:29, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I found that link just now... I think this should be linked from the
> > Wiki development page (I'll do it if I can remember the password for
> > my account...)
> >
> > I now have what as far as I can tell is a working Windows installer
> > for 1.6.1. Just need somewhere to upload it.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > On 30 January 2011 17:22, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> >> Andrew wrote :
> >>
> >>> Next thing I'm not sure about is the localisation - the Inno
> >>> Setup script points to a whole group of .dll files in the locale
> >>> directory, e.g. res_ar.dll, etc. I do not have these dll files,
> >>> presumably I need to compile them somehow?
> >>
> >> Andrew,
> >>
> >> You'll find some help about how to build res_LL.dll files on the
> >> Celestia Wikibook i18n page :
> >>
>
http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Celestia/Internationalization&stable=0
> >>
> >> See more particularly the "Building internationalization files
> >> from the source in MS Windows" section.
> >>
> >> Vincent
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 29 January 2011 02:47, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> >>> > Seems to run fine on my Mac.
> >>> >
> >>> > --Pat
> >>> >
> >>> > On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the
> change. I
> >>> also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the redefinition of
> >>> UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version of
> >>> Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be here:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's smaller than
> >>> 1.6.0.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing
> problems
> >>> with my Windows system.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --Chris
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...>
> wrote:
> >>> >> On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> >>> >> > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
> >>> >> > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
> >>> >> > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this
> problem.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --Pat
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
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Thanks for testing it. I've added the help folder and a few other
missing files to the Inno Setup script and uploaded the new version of
the installer. URL is the same: http://ubuntuone.com/p/avW/

Andrew

On 30 January 2011 19:32, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> I just installed and tested v1.6.1 from the win32 installer you've built.
> It seems to run fine and all the translation files seem to be present.
> There's one issue though : the user guide can't be reached from the Help
> menu because the help/ folder that contains the html version
> of the Celestia Guide is missing. Adding it to the Inno Setup script
> should fix this.
>
> Vincent
>
>
> Selon Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...>:
>
>> Ok I've currently got the Win32 installer hosted on Ubuntu One at
>> http://ubuntuone.com/p/avW/
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 30 January 2011 17:29, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I found that link just now... I think this should be linked from the
>> > Wiki development page (I'll do it if I can remember the password for
>> > my account...)
>> >
>> > I now have what as far as I can tell is a working Windows installer
>> > for 1.6.1. Just need somewhere to upload it.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > On 30 January 2011 17:22, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>> >> Andrew wrote :
>> >>
>> >>> Next thing I'm not sure about is the localisation - the Inno
>> >>> Setup script points to a whole group of .dll files in the locale
>> >>> directory, e.g. res_ar.dll, etc. I do not have these dll files,
>> >>> presumably I need to compile them somehow?
>> >>
>> >> Andrew,
>> >>
>> >> You'll find some help about how to build res_LL.dll files on the
>> >> Celestia Wikibook i18n page :
>> >>
>>
> http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Celestia/Internationalization&stable=0
>> >>
>> >> See more particularly the "Building internationalization files
>> >> from the source in MS Windows" section.
>> >>
>> >> Vincent
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On 29 January 2011 02:47, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>> >>> > Seems to run fine on my Mac.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --Pat
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the
>> change. I
>> >>> also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the redefinition of
>> >>> UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version of
>> >>> Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be here:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's smaller than
>> >>> 1.6.0.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing
>> problems
>> >>> with my Windows system.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --Chris
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...>
>> wrote:
>> >>> >> On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> >>> >> > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
>> >>> >> > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
>> >>> >> > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this
>> problem.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --Pat
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >>> >> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
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>> >>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> >>> >> Celestia-developers@...
>> >>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
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>> >>
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>
>
>

Martin has reported a crash on the Mac version when loading a favorite that
contains a non-ASCII character. I have a workaround for the crash, but it
doesn't fully address the bug. Somewhere in the process of reading or
writing a favorite, the encoding is getting completely messed up. For
example, the name of the lunar crater Gärtner becomes
"G\377ffffc3\377ffffa4rtner",
where the highlighted \377 actually represents the value 255 and every other
character is literally what appears in the decoded string. This is not a
valid UTF-8 string, so the call to the MacOS function to decode the string
fails. What should be there in place of the whole \377ffffc3\377ffffa4 mess
are just the two bytes 0xc3 and 0xa4.

--Chris

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:

> Seems to run fine on my Mac.
>
> --Pat
>
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
>
> > I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the change.
> I also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the redefinition of
> UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
> >
> > I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version of
> Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be here:
> >
> > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
> >
> > I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's smaller than
> 1.6.0.
> >
> > I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing problems
> with my Windows system.
> >
> > --Chris
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> > On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> > > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
> > > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
> > > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this problem.
> >
> > Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
> >
> >   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
> >
> > The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
> >
> > --Pat
> >
> >
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> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
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> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >
>
>

As far as I can tell this does not affect the Windows version. Right
now I don't have time to try the Linux builds of 1.6.1, but qt trunk
also exhibits a problem where a bookmark on Gärtner results in
travelling to the coordinate system origin, though ASCII bookmarks
seem to work.

Andrew

On 1 February 2011 23:03, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> Martin has reported a crash on the Mac version when loading a favorite that
> contains a non-ASCII character. I have a workaround for the crash, but it
> doesn't fully address the bug. Somewhere in the process of reading or
> writing a favorite, the encoding is getting completely messed up. For
> example, the name of the lunar crater Gärtner becomes
> "G\377ffffc3\377ffffa4rtner", where the highlighted \377 actually represents
> the value 255 and every other character is literally what appears in the
> decoded string. This is not a valid UTF-8 string, so the call to the MacOS
> function to decode the string fails. What should be there in place of the
> whole \377ffffc3\377ffffa4 mess are just the two bytes 0xc3 and 0xa4.
> --Chris
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>>
>> Seems to run fine on my Mac.
>>
>> --Pat
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
>>
>> > I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the change.
>> > I also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the redefinition of
>> > UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
>> >
>> > I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version of
>> > Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be here:
>> >
>> > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
>> >
>> > I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's smaller than
>> > 1.6.0.
>> >
>> > I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing problems
>> > with my Windows system.
>> >
>> > --Chris
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>> > On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> > > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
>> > > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
>> > > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this problem.
>> >
>> > Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
>> >
>> >   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>> >
>> > The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
>> >
>> > --Pat
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
>> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
>> > price-free!
>> > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Celestia-developers mailing list
>> > Celestia-developers@...
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> >
>>
>
>
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>
>

Chris,

I could reproduce the bug on the qt4 version.
And your patch definitely fixed it :-)

Vincent


Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:

> I think that I've found the problem: some code in url.cpp that's not
> correctly dealing with the fact that the char type may be signed. I've
> attached a small patch. This fixes the problem with favorites on the Mac as
> well as a related issue with copying URLs.
>
> The Win32 version doesn't use cel URLs for favorites; it uses a custom
> format for favorites that is left over from the very early days of Celestia
> (all other versions use cel URLs.)
>
> --chris
>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick
> <ajtribick@...:
>
> > As far as I can tell this does not affect the Windows version. Right
> > now I don't have time to try the Linux builds of 1.6.1, but qt trunk
> > also exhibits a problem where a bookmark on Gärtner results in
> > travelling to the coordinate system origin, though ASCII bookmarks
> > seem to work.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > On 1 February 2011 23:03, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> > > Martin has reported a crash on the Mac version when loading a favorite
> > that
> > > contains a non-ASCII character. I have a workaround for the crash, but it
> > > doesn't fully address the bug. Somewhere in the process of reading or
> > > writing a favorite, the encoding is getting completely messed up. For
> > > example, the name of the lunar crater Gärtner becomes
> > > "G\377ffffc3\377ffffa4rtner", where the highlighted \377 actually
> > represents
> > > the value 255 and every other character is literally what appears in the
> > > decoded string. This is not a valid UTF-8 string, so the call to the
> > MacOS
> > > function to decode the string fails. What should be there in place of the
> > > whole \377ffffc3\377ffffa4 mess are just the two bytes 0xc3 and 0xa4.
> > > --Chris
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Seems to run fine on my Mac.
> > >>
> > >> --Pat
> > >>
> > >> On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the
> > change.
> > >> > I also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the redefinition of
> > >> > UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version of
> > >> > Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be here:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
> > >> >
> > >> > I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's smaller than
> > >> > 1.6.0.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing
> > problems
> > >> > with my Windows system.
> > >> >
> > >> > --Chris
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...>
> > wrote:
> > >> > On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> > >> > > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
> > >> > > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
> > >> > > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this
> > problem.
> > >> >
> > >> > Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
> > >> >
> > >> >   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
> > >> >
> > >> > The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
> > >> >
> > >> > --Pat
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
> > >> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
> > >> > price-free!
> > >> > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
> > >> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
> > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Celestia-developers@...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >
>

Chris,

I confirm the bug exists in the Gnome and KDE versions also. The patch
fixes the issue with cel URLs for these but the KDE bookmarks menu
still does not work correctly. In addition the "Edit bookmarks"
function in the KDE version appears to do nothing - I cannot edit my
bookmarks without messing around in ~/.kde/apps/celestia

Andrew

On 2 February 2011 08:34, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> I could reproduce the bug on the qt4 version.
> And your patch definitely fixed it :-)
>
> Vincent
>
>
> Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:
>
>> I think that I've found the problem: some code in url.cpp that's not
>> correctly dealing with the fact that the char type may be signed. I've
>> attached a small patch. This fixes the problem with favorites on the Mac as
>> well as a related issue with copying URLs.
>>
>> The Win32 version doesn't use cel URLs for favorites; it uses a custom
>> format for favorites that is left over from the very early days of Celestia
>> (all other versions use cel URLs.)
>>
>> --chris
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick
>> <ajtribick@...:
>>
>> > As far as I can tell this does not affect the Windows version. Right
>> > now I don't have time to try the Linux builds of 1.6.1, but qt trunk
>> > also exhibits a problem where a bookmark on Gärtner results in
>> > travelling to the coordinate system origin, though ASCII bookmarks
>> > seem to work.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > On 1 February 2011 23:03, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>> > > Martin has reported a crash on the Mac version when loading a favorite
>> > that
>> > > contains a non-ASCII character. I have a workaround for the crash, but it
>> > > doesn't fully address the bug. Somewhere in the process of reading or
>> > > writing a favorite, the encoding is getting completely messed up. For
>> > > example, the name of the lunar crater Gärtner becomes
>> > > "G\377ffffc3\377ffffa4rtner", where the highlighted \377 actually
>> > represents
>> > > the value 255 and every other character is literally what appears in the
>> > > decoded string. This is not a valid UTF-8 string, so the call to the
>> > MacOS
>> > > function to decode the string fails. What should be there in place of the
>> > > whole \377ffffc3\377ffffa4 mess are just the two bytes 0xc3 and 0xa4.
>> > > --Chris
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Seems to run fine on my Mac.
>> > >>
>> > >> --Pat
>> > >>
>> > >> On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the
>> > change.
>> > >> > I also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the redefinition of
>> > >> > UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version of
>> > >> > Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be here:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's smaller than
>> > >> > 1.6.0.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing
>> > problems
>> > >> > with my Windows system.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --Chris
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> > On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> > >> > > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl is not
>> > >> > > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and I'm
>> > >> > > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this
>> > problem.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --Pat
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> > >> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
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>> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
>> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>>
>
>
>

Vincent and Andrew--thanks for testing the patch.

Regarding bookmarks: are you having problems with existing bookmarks with
non-ASCII characters? The patch won't fix these, as they've already been
stored with the broken encoding. New bookmarks should work though, unless
there's another bug. The fix on the Mac is actually two parts: the patch you
tested, plus another patch that prevents existing, incorrectly encoded names
from crashing Celestia.

--Chris

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...:

> Chris,
>
> I confirm the bug exists in the Gnome and KDE versions also. The patch
> fixes the issue with cel URLs for these but the KDE bookmarks menu
> still does not work correctly. In addition the "Edit bookmarks"
> function in the KDE version appears to do nothing - I cannot edit my
> bookmarks without messing around in ~/.kde/apps/celestia
>
> Andrew
>
> On 2 February 2011 08:34, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> > Chris,
> >
> > I could reproduce the bug on the qt4 version.
> > And your patch definitely fixed it :-)
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> > Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:
> >
> >> I think that I've found the problem: some code in url.cpp that's not
> >> correctly dealing with the fact that the char type may be signed. I've
> >> attached a small patch. This fixes the problem with favorites on the Mac
> as
> >> well as a related issue with copying URLs.
> >>
> >> The Win32 version doesn't use cel URLs for favorites; it uses a custom
> >> format for favorites that is left over from the very early days of
> Celestia
> >> (all other versions use cel URLs.)
> >>
> >> --chris
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick
> >> <ajtribick@...:
> >>
> >> > As far as I can tell this does not affect the Windows version. Right
> >> > now I don't have time to try the Linux builds of 1.6.1, but qt trunk
> >> > also exhibits a problem where a bookmark on Gärtner results in
> >> > travelling to the coordinate system origin, though ASCII bookmarks
> >> > seem to work.
> >> >
> >> > Andrew
> >> >
> >> > On 1 February 2011 23:03, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> >> > > Martin has reported a crash on the Mac version when loading a
> favorite
> >> > that
> >> > > contains a non-ASCII character. I have a workaround for the crash,
> but it
> >> > > doesn't fully address the bug. Somewhere in the process of reading
> or
> >> > > writing a favorite, the encoding is getting completely messed up.
> For
> >> > > example, the name of the lunar crater Gärtner becomes
> >> > > "G\377ffffc3\377ffffa4rtner", where the highlighted \377 actually
> >> > represents
> >> > > the value 255 and every other character is literally what appears in
> the
> >> > > decoded string. This is not a valid UTF-8 string, so the call to the
> >> > MacOS
> >> > > function to decode the string fails. What should be there in place
> of the
> >> > > whole \377ffffc3\377ffffa4 mess are just the two bytes 0xc3 and
> 0xa4.
> >> > > --Chris
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...>
> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Seems to run fine on my Mac.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --Pat
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the
> >> > change.
> >> > >> > I also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the
> redefinition of
> >> > >> > UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version
> of
> >> > >> > Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be
> here:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> >
> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's smaller
> than
> >> > >> > 1.6.0.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing
> >> > problems
> >> > >> > with my Windows system.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > --Chris
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >> > On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> >> > >> > > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl
> is not
> >> > >> > > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary, and
> I'm
> >> > >> > > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this
> >> > problem.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball, at:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > --Pat
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> >
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > >> > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD
> value)!
> >> > >> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
> >> > >> > price-free!
> >> > >> > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
> >> > >> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
> >> > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
> >> > >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> >> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
> >> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
> >> > > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
> >> > price-free!
> >> > > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
> >> > > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
> >> > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Celestia-developers mailing list
> >> > > Celestia-developers@...
> >> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
> >> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
> >> > price-free!
> >> > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
> >> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
> >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> >> > Celestia-developers@...
> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
> price-free!
> Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
> February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
> _______________________________________________
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> Celestia-developers@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>

Chris,

Yes this is for new bookmarks. Using Gärtner as an example, I select
it and use G to go to it, then choose "Add Bookmark" from the
Bookmarks menu. This gives me an entry "Follow G%c3%a4rtner
[G%c3%a4rtner]" in the menu. The cel URL output to the console while
doing this works fine in the Navigation/Go to URL. Selecting the menu
item in the bookmarks menu however selects Gärtner but deposits me at
the coordinate origin.

The lack of the Edit Bookmarks functionality is a separate issue.

Andrew

On 2 February 2011 21:26, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> Vincent and Andrew--thanks for testing the patch.
> Regarding bookmarks: are you having problems with existing bookmarks with
> non-ASCII characters? The patch won't fix these, as they've already been
> stored with the broken encoding. New bookmarks should work though, unless
> there's another bug. The fix on the Mac is actually two parts: the patch you
> tested, plus another patch that prevents existing, incorrectly encoded names
> from crashing Celestia.
> --Chris
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> I confirm the bug exists in the Gnome and KDE versions also. The patch
>> fixes the issue with cel URLs for these but the KDE bookmarks menu
>> still does not work correctly. In addition the "Edit bookmarks"
>> function in the KDE version appears to do nothing - I cannot edit my
>> bookmarks without messing around in ~/.kde/apps/celestia
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 2 February 2011 08:34, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>> > Chris,
>> >
>> > I could reproduce the bug on the qt4 version.
>> > And your patch definitely fixed it :-)
>> >
>> > Vincent
>> >
>> >
>> > Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:
>> >
>> >> I think that I've found the problem: some code in url.cpp that's not
>> >> correctly dealing with the fact that the char type may be signed. I've
>> >> attached a small patch. This fixes the problem with favorites on the
>> >> Mac as
>> >> well as a related issue with copying URLs.
>> >>
>> >> The Win32 version doesn't use cel URLs for favorites; it uses a custom
>> >> format for favorites that is left over from the very early days of
>> >> Celestia
>> >> (all other versions use cel URLs.)
>> >>
>> >> --chris
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick
>> >> <ajtribick@...:
>> >>
>> >> > As far as I can tell this does not affect the Windows version. Right
>> >> > now I don't have time to try the Linux builds of 1.6.1, but qt trunk
>> >> > also exhibits a problem where a bookmark on Gärtner results in
>> >> > travelling to the coordinate system origin, though ASCII bookmarks
>> >> > seem to work.
>> >> >
>> >> > Andrew
>> >> >
>> >> > On 1 February 2011 23:03, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>> >> > > Martin has reported a crash on the Mac version when loading a
>> >> > > favorite
>> >> > that
>> >> > > contains a non-ASCII character. I have a workaround for the crash,
>> >> > > but it
>> >> > > doesn't fully address the bug. Somewhere in the process of reading
>> >> > > or
>> >> > > writing a favorite, the encoding is getting completely messed up.
>> >> > > For
>> >> > > example, the name of the lunar crater Gärtner becomes
>> >> > > "G\377ffffc3\377ffffa4rtner", where the highlighted \377 actually
>> >> > represents
>> >> > > the value 255 and every other character is literally what appears
>> >> > > in the
>> >> > > decoded string. This is not a valid UTF-8 string, so the call to
>> >> > > the
>> >> > MacOS
>> >> > > function to decode the string fails. What should be there in place
>> >> > > of the
>> >> > > whole \377ffffc3\377ffffa4 mess are just the two bytes 0xc3 and
>> >> > > 0xa4.
>> >> > > --Chris
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Seems to run fine on my Mac.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> --Pat
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the
>> >> > change.
>> >> > >> > I also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the
>> >> > >> > redefinition of
>> >> > >> > UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version
>> >> > >> > of
>> >> > >> > Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be
>> >> > >> > here:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's
>> >> > >> > smaller than
>> >> > >> > 1.6.0.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing
>> >> > problems
>> >> > >> > with my Windows system.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > --Chris
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >> > On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> >> > >> > > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl
>> >> > >> > > is not
>> >> > >> > > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary,
>> >> > >> > > and I'm
>> >> > >> > > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this
>> >> > problem.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball,
>> >> > >> > at:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > --Pat
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > >> > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD
>> >> > >> > value)!
>> >> > >> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
>> >> > >> > price-free!
>> >> > >> > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>> >> > >> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>> >> > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>> >> > >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
>> >> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
>> >> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD
>> >> > > value)!
>> >> > > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
>> >> > price-free!
>> >> > > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>> >> > > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>> >> > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>> >> > > _______________________________________________
>> >> > > Celestia-developers mailing list
>> >> > > Celestia-developers@...
>> >> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
>> >> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
>> >> > price-free!
>> >> > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>> >> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>> >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
>> >> > Celestia-developers@...
>> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
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>> February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
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>> Celestia-developers@...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>
>

Ok so it turns out the edit bookmarks functionality was caused by me
not having Konqueror installed. So no worries there.

As for the KDE bookmarks problem, I've attached a patch for
kcelbookmarkmenu.cpp that fixes the Unicode bookmarks functionality.
Please check this as this is essentially my first foray into KDE
programming!

Andrew

On 2 February 2011 21:53, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Yes this is for new bookmarks. Using Gärtner as an example, I select
> it and use G to go to it, then choose "Add Bookmark" from the
> Bookmarks menu. This gives me an entry "Follow G%c3%a4rtner
> [G%c3%a4rtner]" in the menu. The cel URL output to the console while
> doing this works fine in the Navigation/Go to URL. Selecting the menu
> item in the bookmarks menu however selects Gärtner but deposits me at
> the coordinate origin.
>
> The lack of the Edit Bookmarks functionality is a separate issue.
>
> Andrew
>
> On 2 February 2011 21:26, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>> Vincent and Andrew--thanks for testing the patch.
>> Regarding bookmarks: are you having problems with existing bookmarks with
>> non-ASCII characters? The patch won't fix these, as they've already been
>> stored with the broken encoding. New bookmarks should work though, unless
>> there's another bug. The fix on the Mac is actually two parts: the patch you
>> tested, plus another patch that prevents existing, incorrectly encoded names
>> from crashing Celestia.
>> --Chris
>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> I confirm the bug exists in the Gnome and KDE versions also. The patch
>>> fixes the issue with cel URLs for these but the KDE bookmarks menu
>>> still does not work correctly. In addition the "Edit bookmarks"
>>> function in the KDE version appears to do nothing - I cannot edit my
>>> bookmarks without messing around in ~/.kde/apps/celestia
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> On 2 February 2011 08:34, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>>> > Chris,
>>> >
>>> > I could reproduce the bug on the qt4 version.
>>> > And your patch definitely fixed it :-)
>>> >
>>> > Vincent
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:
>>> >
>>> >> I think that I've found the problem: some code in url.cpp that's not
>>> >> correctly dealing with the fact that the char type may be signed. I've
>>> >> attached a small patch. This fixes the problem with favorites on the
>>> >> Mac as
>>> >> well as a related issue with copying URLs.
>>> >>
>>> >> The Win32 version doesn't use cel URLs for favorites; it uses a custom
>>> >> format for favorites that is left over from the very early days of
>>> >> Celestia
>>> >> (all other versions use cel URLs.)
>>> >>
>>> >> --chris
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick
>>> >> <ajtribick@...:
>>> >>
>>> >> > As far as I can tell this does not affect the Windows version. Right
>>> >> > now I don't have time to try the Linux builds of 1.6.1, but qt trunk
>>> >> > also exhibits a problem where a bookmark on Gärtner results in
>>> >> > travelling to the coordinate system origin, though ASCII bookmarks
>>> >> > seem to work.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Andrew
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 1 February 2011 23:03, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>>> >> > > Martin has reported a crash on the Mac version when loading a
>>> >> > > favorite
>>> >> > that
>>> >> > > contains a non-ASCII character. I have a workaround for the crash,
>>> >> > > but it
>>> >> > > doesn't fully address the bug. Somewhere in the process of reading
>>> >> > > or
>>> >> > > writing a favorite, the encoding is getting completely messed up.
>>> >> > > For
>>> >> > > example, the name of the lunar crater Gärtner becomes
>>> >> > > "G\377ffffc3\377ffffa4rtner", where the highlighted \377 actually
>>> >> > represents
>>> >> > > the value 255 and every other character is literally what appears
>>> >> > > in the
>>> >> > > decoded string. This is not a valid UTF-8 string, so the call to
>>> >> > > the
>>> >> > MacOS
>>> >> > > function to decode the string fails. What should be there in place
>>> >> > > of the
>>> >> > > whole \377ffffc3\377ffffa4 mess are just the two bytes 0xc3 and
>>> >> > > 0xa4.
>>> >> > > --Chris
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...>
>>> >> > > wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Seems to run fine on my Mac.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> --Pat
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> > I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed the
>>> >> > change.
>>> >> > >> > I also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the
>>> >> > >> > redefinition of
>>> >> > >> > UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac version
>>> >> > >> > of
>>> >> > >> > Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be
>>> >> > >> > here:
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's
>>> >> > >> > smaller than
>>> >> > >> > 1.6.0.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of ongoing
>>> >> > problems
>>> >> > >> > with my Windows system.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > --Chris
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> > >> > On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>>> >> > >> > > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in vecgl
>>> >> > >> > > is not
>>> >> > >> > > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary,
>>> >> > >> > > and I'm
>>> >> > >> > > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about this
>>> >> > problem.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball,
>>> >> > >> > at:
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > --Pat
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > >> > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD
>>> >> > >> > value)!
>>> >> > >> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
>>> >> > >> > price-free!
>>> >> > >> > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>>> >> > >> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>>> >> > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>>> >> > >> > _______________________________________________
>>> >> > >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
>>> >> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
>>> >> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD
>>> >> > > value)!
>>> >> > > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
>>> >> > price-free!
>>> >> > > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>>> >> > > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>>> >> > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>>> >> > > _______________________________________________
>>> >> > > Celestia-developers mailing list
>>> >> > > Celestia-developers@...
>>> >> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
>>> >> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
>>> >> > price-free!
>>> >> > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>>> >> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>>> >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>>> >> > _______________________________________________
>>> >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
>>> >> > Celestia-developers@...
>>> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
>>> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
>>> price-free!
>>> Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>>> February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>>> Celestia-developers@...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>
>>
>

I took a look at that patch, and the first line you changed doesn't seem
right: it's *decoding* the string--shouldn't it be encoding it to store.
Unless perhaps it's being encoded by Qt or KDE later?

I'm going to check in one more small Mac change on Sunday. I might also take
a look at the Mac full screen issue one more time before punting it to the
next Celestia version (it doesn't seem to happen in QtCelestia anyhow.)
After that, I'm ready to build a release. Although the bookmarks/favorites
on Windows isn't affected by the URL change, copying of URLs is; we should
rebuild the Windows release. I've replaced the motherboard in my Windows 7
system and resurrected it, so I can do this Sunday or Monday if someone else
doesn't get to it first.

--Chris

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...:

> Ok so it turns out the edit bookmarks functionality was caused by me
> not having Konqueror installed. So no worries there.
>
> As for the KDE bookmarks problem, I've attached a patch for
> kcelbookmarkmenu.cpp that fixes the Unicode bookmarks functionality.
> Please check this as this is essentially my first foray into KDE
> programming!
>
> Andrew
>
> On 2 February 2011 21:53, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
> > Chris,
> >
> > Yes this is for new bookmarks. Using Gärtner as an example, I select
> > it and use G to go to it, then choose "Add Bookmark" from the
> > Bookmarks menu. This gives me an entry "Follow G%c3%a4rtner
> > [G%c3%a4rtner]" in the menu. The cel URL output to the console while
> > doing this works fine in the Navigation/Go to URL. Selecting the menu
> > item in the bookmarks menu however selects Gärtner but deposits me at
> > the coordinate origin.
> >
> > The lack of the Edit Bookmarks functionality is a separate issue.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > On 2 February 2011 21:26, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> >> Vincent and Andrew--thanks for testing the patch.
> >> Regarding bookmarks: are you having problems with existing bookmarks
> with
> >> non-ASCII characters? The patch won't fix these, as they've already been
> >> stored with the broken encoding. New bookmarks should work though,
> unless
> >> there's another bug. The fix on the Mac is actually two parts: the patch
> you
> >> tested, plus another patch that prevents existing, incorrectly encoded
> names
> >> from crashing Celestia.
> >> --Chris
> >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Andrew Tribick <
> ajtribick@...>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Chris,
> >>>
> >>> I confirm the bug exists in the Gnome and KDE versions also. The patch
> >>> fixes the issue with cel URLs for these but the KDE bookmarks menu
> >>> still does not work correctly. In addition the "Edit bookmarks"
> >>> function in the KDE version appears to do nothing - I cannot edit my
> >>> bookmarks without messing around in ~/.kde/apps/celestia
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>>
> >>> On 2 February 2011 08:34, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
> >>> > Chris,
> >>> >
> >>> > I could reproduce the bug on the qt4 version.
> >>> > And your patch definitely fixed it :-)
> >>> >
> >>> > Vincent
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:
> >>> >
> >>> >> I think that I've found the problem: some code in url.cpp that's not
> >>> >> correctly dealing with the fact that the char type may be signed.
> I've
> >>> >> attached a small patch. This fixes the problem with favorites on the
> >>> >> Mac as
> >>> >> well as a related issue with copying URLs.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The Win32 version doesn't use cel URLs for favorites; it uses a
> custom
> >>> >> format for favorites that is left over from the very early days of
> >>> >> Celestia
> >>> >> (all other versions use cel URLs.)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --chris
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick
> >>> >> <ajtribick@...:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > As far as I can tell this does not affect the Windows version.
> Right
> >>> >> > now I don't have time to try the Linux builds of 1.6.1, but qt
> trunk
> >>> >> > also exhibits a problem where a bookmark on Gärtner results in
> >>> >> > travelling to the coordinate system origin, though ASCII bookmarks
> >>> >> > seem to work.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Andrew
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On 1 February 2011 23:03, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> >>> >> > > Martin has reported a crash on the Mac version when loading a
> >>> >> > > favorite
> >>> >> > that
> >>> >> > > contains a non-ASCII character. I have a workaround for the
> crash,
> >>> >> > > but it
> >>> >> > > doesn't fully address the bug. Somewhere in the process of
> reading
> >>> >> > > or
> >>> >> > > writing a favorite, the encoding is getting completely messed
> up.
> >>> >> > > For
> >>> >> > > example, the name of the lunar crater Gärtner becomes
> >>> >> > > "G\377ffffc3\377ffffa4rtner", where the highlighted \377
> actually
> >>> >> > represents
> >>> >> > > the value 255 and every other character is literally what
> appears
> >>> >> > > in the
> >>> >> > > decoded string. This is not a valid UTF-8 string, so the call to
> >>> >> > > the
> >>> >> > MacOS
> >>> >> > > function to decode the string fails. What should be there in
> place
> >>> >> > > of the
> >>> >> > > whole \377ffffc3\377ffffa4 mess are just the two bytes 0xc3 and
> >>> >> > > 0xa4.
> >>> >> > > --Chris
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Pat Suwalski <pat@...
> >
> >>> >> > > wrote:
> >>> >> > >>
> >>> >> > >> Seems to run fine on my Mac.
> >>> >> > >>
> >>> >> > >> --Pat
> >>> >> > >>
> >>> >> > >> On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
> >>> >> > >>
> >>> >> > >> > I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed
> the
> >>> >> > change.
> >>> >> > >> > I also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the
> >>> >> > >> > redefinition of
> >>> >> > >> > UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> > >> > I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac
> version
> >>> >> > >> > of
> >>> >> > >> > Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will be
> >>> >> > >> > here:
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> > >> > I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's
> >>> >> > >> > smaller than
> >>> >> > >> > 1.6.0.
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> > >> > I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of
> ongoing
> >>> >> > problems
> >>> >> > >> > with my Windows system.
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> > >> > --Chris
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski <
> pat@...>
> >>> >> > wrote:
> >>> >> > >> > On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> >>> >> > >> > > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in
> vecgl
> >>> >> > >> > > is not
> >>> >> > >> > > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a temporary,
> >>> >> > >> > > and I'm
> >>> >> > >> > > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about
> this
> >>> >> > problem.
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> > >> > Alright, the committed change is part of the updated tarball,
> >>> >> > >> > at:
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> > >> >   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> > >> > The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS versioning.
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> > >> > --Pat
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > >> > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD
> >>> >> > >> > value)!
> >>> >> > >> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even
> better
> >>> >> > >> > price-free!
> >>> >> > >> > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer
> expires
> >>> >> > >> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
> >>> >> > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
> >>> >> > >> > _______________________________________________
> >>> >> > >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> >>> >> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
> >>> >> > >> >
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >>> >> > >> >
> >>> >> > >>
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD
> >>> >> > > value)!
> >>> >> > > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
> >>> >> > price-free!
> >>> >> > > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
> >>> >> > > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
> >>> >> > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >>> >> > > Celestia-developers mailing list
> >>> >> > > Celestia-developers@...
> >>> >> > >
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD
> value)!
> >>> >> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
> >>> >> > price-free!
> >>> >> > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
> >>> >> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
> >>> >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
> >>> >> > _______________________________________________
> >>> >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> >>> >> > Celestia-developers@...
> >>> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
> >>> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
> >>> price-free!
> >>> Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
> >>> February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
> >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Celestia-developers mailing list
> >>> Celestia-developers@...
> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources
> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's
> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these
> rules translate into the virtual world?
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> Celestia-developers@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>
>

Yes actually it turns out there are several things going on. Main
problem is in kdeapp.cpp where at various points the URL is being
converted into the "pretty" form then directly to Latin1. The attached
patch against 5132 fixes this.

As for the Windows version, will do a rebuild later. We should also
re-merge the datafiles: several exoplanet systems have been discovered
since the last merge. Probably worth waiting until Grant adds
Kepler-11 to the extrasolar planets files since that one's had a bit
of media attention.

Andrew

On 5 February 2011 03:04, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> I took a look at that patch, and the first line you changed doesn't seem
> right: it's *decoding* the string--shouldn't it be encoding it to store.
> Unless perhaps it's being encoded by Qt or KDE later?
> I'm going to check in one more small Mac change on Sunday. I might also take
> a look at the Mac full screen issue one more time before punting it to the
> next Celestia version (it doesn't seem to happen in QtCelestia anyhow.)
> After that, I'm ready to build a release. Although the bookmarks/favorites
> on Windows isn't affected by the URL change, copying of URLs is; we should
> rebuild the Windows release. I've replaced the motherboard in my Windows 7
> system and resurrected it, so I can do this Sunday or Monday if someone else
> doesn't get to it first.
> --Chris
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Ok so it turns out the edit bookmarks functionality was caused by me
>> not having Konqueror installed. So no worries there.
>>
>> As for the KDE bookmarks problem, I've attached a patch for
>> kcelbookmarkmenu.cpp that fixes the Unicode bookmarks functionality.
>> Please check this as this is essentially my first foray into KDE
>> programming!
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 2 February 2011 21:53, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
>> > Chris,
>> >
>> > Yes this is for new bookmarks. Using Gärtner as an example, I select
>> > it and use G to go to it, then choose "Add Bookmark" from the
>> > Bookmarks menu. This gives me an entry "Follow G%c3%a4rtner
>> > [G%c3%a4rtner]" in the menu. The cel URL output to the console while
>> > doing this works fine in the Navigation/Go to URL. Selecting the menu
>> > item in the bookmarks menu however selects Gärtner but deposits me at
>> > the coordinate origin.
>> >
>> > The lack of the Edit Bookmarks functionality is a separate issue.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > On 2 February 2011 21:26, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>> >> Vincent and Andrew--thanks for testing the patch.
>> >> Regarding bookmarks: are you having problems with existing bookmarks
>> >> with
>> >> non-ASCII characters? The patch won't fix these, as they've already
>> >> been
>> >> stored with the broken encoding. New bookmarks should work though,
>> >> unless
>> >> there's another bug. The fix on the Mac is actually two parts: the
>> >> patch you
>> >> tested, plus another patch that prevents existing, incorrectly encoded
>> >> names
>> >> from crashing Celestia.
>> >> --Chris
>> >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Andrew Tribick
>> >> <ajtribick@...>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Chris,
>> >>>
>> >>> I confirm the bug exists in the Gnome and KDE versions also. The patch
>> >>> fixes the issue with cel URLs for these but the KDE bookmarks menu
>> >>> still does not work correctly. In addition the "Edit bookmarks"
>> >>> function in the KDE version appears to do nothing - I cannot edit my
>> >>> bookmarks without messing around in ~/.kde/apps/celestia
>> >>>
>> >>> Andrew
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2 February 2011 08:34, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>> >>> > Chris,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I could reproduce the bug on the qt4 version.
>> >>> > And your patch definitely fixed it :-)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Vincent
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> I think that I've found the problem: some code in url.cpp that's
>> >>> >> not
>> >>> >> correctly dealing with the fact that the char type may be signed.
>> >>> >> I've
>> >>> >> attached a small patch. This fixes the problem with favorites on
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> Mac as
>> >>> >> well as a related issue with copying URLs.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> The Win32 version doesn't use cel URLs for favorites; it uses a
>> >>> >> custom
>> >>> >> format for favorites that is left over from the very early days of
>> >>> >> Celestia
>> >>> >> (all other versions use cel URLs.)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --chris
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick
>> >>> >> <ajtribick@...:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > As far as I can tell this does not affect the Windows version.
>> >>> >> > Right
>> >>> >> > now I don't have time to try the Linux builds of 1.6.1, but qt
>> >>> >> > trunk
>> >>> >> > also exhibits a problem where a bookmark on Gärtner results in
>> >>> >> > travelling to the coordinate system origin, though ASCII
>> >>> >> > bookmarks
>> >>> >> > seem to work.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Andrew
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On 1 February 2011 23:03, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>> >>> >> > > Martin has reported a crash on the Mac version when loading a
>> >>> >> > > favorite
>> >>> >> > that
>> >>> >> > > contains a non-ASCII character. I have a workaround for the
>> >>> >> > > crash,
>> >>> >> > > but it
>> >>> >> > > doesn't fully address the bug. Somewhere in the process of
>> >>> >> > > reading
>> >>> >> > > or
>> >>> >> > > writing a favorite, the encoding is getting completely messed
>> >>> >> > > up.
>> >>> >> > > For
>> >>> >> > > example, the name of the lunar crater Gärtner becomes
>> >>> >> > > "G\377ffffc3\377ffffa4rtner", where the highlighted \377
>> >>> >> > > actually
>> >>> >> > represents
>> >>> >> > > the value 255 and every other character is literally what
>> >>> >> > > appears
>> >>> >> > > in the
>> >>> >> > > decoded string. This is not a valid UTF-8 string, so the call
>> >>> >> > > to
>> >>> >> > > the
>> >>> >> > MacOS
>> >>> >> > > function to decode the string fails. What should be there in
>> >>> >> > > place
>> >>> >> > > of the
>> >>> >> > > whole \377ffffc3\377ffffa4 mess are just the two bytes 0xc3 and
>> >>> >> > > 0xa4.
>> >>> >> > > --Chris
>> >>> >> > >
>> >>> >> > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Pat Suwalski
>> >>> >> > > <pat@...>
>> >>> >> > > wrote:
>> >>> >> > >>
>> >>> >> > >> Seems to run fine on my Mac.
>> >>> >> > >>
>> >>> >> > >> --Pat
>> >>> >> > >>
>> >>> >> > >> On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> >>> >> > >>
>> >>> >> > >> > I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed
>> >>> >> > >> > the
>> >>> >> > change.
>> >>> >> > >> > I also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the
>> >>> >> > >> > redefinition of
>> >>> >> > >> > UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >> > I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac
>> >>> >> > >> > version
>> >>> >> > >> > of
>> >>> >> > >> > Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will
>> >>> >> > >> > be
>> >>> >> > >> > here:
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >> > I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's
>> >>> >> > >> > smaller than
>> >>> >> > >> > 1.6.0.
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >> > I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of
>> >>> >> > >> > ongoing
>> >>> >> > problems
>> >>> >> > >> > with my Windows system.
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >> > --Chris
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski
>> >>> >> > >> > <pat@...>
>> >>> >> > wrote:
>> >>> >> > >> > On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>> >>> >> > >> > > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in
>> >>> >> > >> > > vecgl
>> >>> >> > >> > > is not
>> >>> >> > >> > > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a
>> >>> >> > >> > > temporary,
>> >>> >> > >> > > and I'm
>> >>> >> > >> > > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about
>> >>> >> > >> > > this
>> >>> >> > problem.
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >> > Alright, the committed change is part of the updated
>> >>> >> > >> > tarball,
>> >>> >> > >> > at:
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >> >   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >> > The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS
>> >>> >> > >> > versioning.
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >> > --Pat
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> >> > >> > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD
>> >>> >> > >> > value)!
>> >>> >> > >> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even
>> >>> >> > >> > better
>> >>> >> > >> > price-free!
>> >>> >> > >> > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer
>> >>> >> > >> > expires
>> >>> >> > >> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>> >>> >> > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>> >>> >> > >> > _______________________________________________
>> >>> >> > >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
>> >>> >> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> >>> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> > >>
>> >>> >> > >
>> >>> >> > >
>> >>> >> > >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> >> > > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD
>> >>> >> > > value)!
>> >>> >> > > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even
>> >>> >> > > better
>> >>> >> > price-free!
>> >>> >> > > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>> >>> >> > > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>> >>> >> > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________
>> >>> >> > > Celestia-developers mailing list
>> >>> >> > > Celestia-developers@...
>> >>> >> > >
>> >>> >> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> >>> >> > >
>> >>> >> > >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> >> > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD
>> >>> >> > value)!
>> >>> >> > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
>> >>> >> > price-free!
>> >>> >> > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>> >>> >> > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>> >>> >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >>> >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
>> >>> >> > Celestia-developers@...
>> >>> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)!
>> >>> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better
>> >>> price-free!
>> >>> Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires
>> >>> February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY!
>> >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>> >>> Celestia-developers@...
>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources
>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical
>> server's
>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these
>> rules translate into the virtual world?
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb
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>>
>
>

New Windows installer with the url.cpp changes at
http://ubuntuone.com/p/bsI/ - it's slightly smaller than the last one
because of the alterations to the compression settings.

Andrew

On 5 February 2011 13:56, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
> Yes actually it turns out there are several things going on. Main
> problem is in kdeapp.cpp where at various points the URL is being
> converted into the "pretty" form then directly to Latin1. The attached
> patch against 5132 fixes this.
>
> As for the Windows version, will do a rebuild later. We should also
> re-merge the datafiles: several exoplanet systems have been discovered
> since the last merge. Probably worth waiting until Grant adds
> Kepler-11 to the extrasolar planets files since that one's had a bit
> of media attention.
>
> Andrew
>
> On 5 February 2011 03:04, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>> I took a look at that patch, and the first line you changed doesn't seem
>> right: it's *decoding* the string--shouldn't it be encoding it to store.
>> Unless perhaps it's being encoded by Qt or KDE later?
>> I'm going to check in one more small Mac change on Sunday. I might also take
>> a look at the Mac full screen issue one more time before punting it to the
>> next Celestia version (it doesn't seem to happen in QtCelestia anyhow.)
>> After that, I'm ready to build a release. Although the bookmarks/favorites
>> on Windows isn't affected by the URL change, copying of URLs is; we should
>> rebuild the Windows release. I've replaced the motherboard in my Windows 7
>> system and resurrected it, so I can do this Sunday or Monday if someone else
>> doesn't get to it first.
>> --Chris
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok so it turns out the edit bookmarks functionality was caused by me
>>> not having Konqueror installed. So no worries there.
>>>
>>> As for the KDE bookmarks problem, I've attached a patch for
>>> kcelbookmarkmenu.cpp that fixes the Unicode bookmarks functionality.
>>> Please check this as this is essentially my first foray into KDE
>>> programming!
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> On 2 February 2011 21:53, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
>>> > Chris,
>>> >
>>> > Yes this is for new bookmarks. Using Gärtner as an example, I select
>>> > it and use G to go to it, then choose "Add Bookmark" from the
>>> > Bookmarks menu. This gives me an entry "Follow G%c3%a4rtner
>>> > [G%c3%a4rtner]" in the menu. The cel URL output to the console while
>>> > doing this works fine in the Navigation/Go to URL. Selecting the menu
>>> > item in the bookmarks menu however selects Gärtner but deposits me at
>>> > the coordinate origin.
>>> >
>>> > The lack of the Edit Bookmarks functionality is a separate issue.
>>> >
>>> > Andrew
>>> >
>>> > On 2 February 2011 21:26, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>>> >> Vincent and Andrew--thanks for testing the patch.
>>> >> Regarding bookmarks: are you having problems with existing bookmarks
>>> >> with
>>> >> non-ASCII characters? The patch won't fix these, as they've already
>>> >> been
>>> >> stored with the broken encoding. New bookmarks should work though,
>>> >> unless
>>> >> there's another bug. The fix on the Mac is actually two parts: the
>>> >> patch you
>>> >> tested, plus another patch that prevents existing, incorrectly encoded
>>> >> names
>>> >> from crashing Celestia.
>>> >> --Chris
>>> >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Andrew Tribick
>>> >> <ajtribick@...>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Chris,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I confirm the bug exists in the Gnome and KDE versions also. The patch
>>> >>> fixes the issue with cel URLs for these but the KDE bookmarks menu
>>> >>> still does not work correctly. In addition the "Edit bookmarks"
>>> >>> function in the KDE version appears to do nothing - I cannot edit my
>>> >>> bookmarks without messing around in ~/.kde/apps/celestia
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Andrew
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 2 February 2011 08:34, vincent <vince.gian@...> wrote:
>>> >>> > Chris,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I could reproduce the bug on the qt4 version.
>>> >>> > And your patch definitely fixed it :-)
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Vincent
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Selon Chris Laurel <claurel@...>:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> I think that I've found the problem: some code in url.cpp that's
>>> >>> >> not
>>> >>> >> correctly dealing with the fact that the char type may be signed.
>>> >>> >> I've
>>> >>> >> attached a small patch. This fixes the problem with favorites on
>>> >>> >> the
>>> >>> >> Mac as
>>> >>> >> well as a related issue with copying URLs.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> The Win32 version doesn't use cel URLs for favorites; it uses a
>>> >>> >> custom
>>> >>> >> format for favorites that is left over from the very early days of
>>> >>> >> Celestia
>>> >>> >> (all other versions use cel URLs.)
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> --chris
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick
>>> >>> >> <ajtribick@...:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> > As far as I can tell this does not affect the Windows version.
>>> >>> >> > Right
>>> >>> >> > now I don't have time to try the Linux builds of 1.6.1, but qt
>>> >>> >> > trunk
>>> >>> >> > also exhibits a problem where a bookmark on Gärtner results in
>>> >>> >> > travelling to the coordinate system origin, though ASCII
>>> >>> >> > bookmarks
>>> >>> >> > seem to work.
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > Andrew
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > On 1 February 2011 23:03, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>>> >>> >> > > Martin has reported a crash on the Mac version when loading a
>>> >>> >> > > favorite
>>> >>> >> > that
>>> >>> >> > > contains a non-ASCII character. I have a workaround for the
>>> >>> >> > > crash,
>>> >>> >> > > but it
>>> >>> >> > > doesn't fully address the bug. Somewhere in the process of
>>> >>> >> > > reading
>>> >>> >> > > or
>>> >>> >> > > writing a favorite, the encoding is getting completely messed
>>> >>> >> > > up.
>>> >>> >> > > For
>>> >>> >> > > example, the name of the lunar crater Gärtner becomes
>>> >>> >> > > "G\377ffffc3\377ffffa4rtner", where the highlighted \377
>>> >>> >> > > actually
>>> >>> >> > represents
>>> >>> >> > > the value 255 and every other character is literally what
>>> >>> >> > > appears
>>> >>> >> > > in the
>>> >>> >> > > decoded string. This is not a valid UTF-8 string, so the call
>>> >>> >> > > to
>>> >>> >> > > the
>>> >>> >> > MacOS
>>> >>> >> > > function to decode the string fails. What should be there in
>>> >>> >> > > place
>>> >>> >> > > of the
>>> >>> >> > > whole \377ffffc3\377ffffa4 mess are just the two bytes 0xc3 and
>>> >>> >> > > 0xa4.
>>> >>> >> > > --Chris
>>> >>> >> > >
>>> >>> >> > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Pat Suwalski
>>> >>> >> > > <pat@...>
>>> >>> >> > > wrote:
>>> >>> >> > >>
>>> >>> >> > >> Seems to run fine on my Mac.
>>> >>> >> > >>
>>> >>> >> > >> --Pat
>>> >>> >> > >>
>>> >>> >> > >> On Jan 28, 2011, at 18:45, Chris Laurel wrote:
>>> >>> >> > >>
>>> >>> >> > >> > I just took care of the Mac versioning problem and committed
>>> >>> >> > >> > the
>>> >>> >> > change.
>>> >>> >> > >> > I also fixed the stream of compiler warnings about the
>>> >>> >> > >> > redefinition of
>>> >>> >> > >> > UINT64_MAX; this fix is already in trunk.
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> > >> > I'm in the process of uploading a disk image for the Mac
>>> >>> >> > >> > version
>>> >>> >> > >> > of
>>> >>> >> > >> > Celestia 1.6.1. By the time you read this message, it will
>>> >>> >> > >> > be
>>> >>> >> > >> > here:
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> > >> > I changed the compression on this disk image so that it's
>>> >>> >> > >> > smaller than
>>> >>> >> > >> > 1.6.0.
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> > >> > I'm still unable to build a Windows version because of
>>> >>> >> > >> > ongoing
>>> >>> >> > problems
>>> >>> >> > >> > with my Windows system.
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> > >> > --Chris
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Pat Suwalski
>>> >>> >> > >> > <pat@...>
>>> >>> >> > wrote:
>>> >>> >> > >> > On 24/01/11 12:45 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
>>> >>> >> > >> > > Yes, this fix should be committed. The original code in
>>> >>> >> > >> > > vecgl
>>> >>> >> > >> > > is not
>>> >>> >> > >> > > correct: it shouldn't be taking the address of a
>>> >>> >> > >> > > temporary,
>>> >>> >> > >> > > and I'm
>>> >>> >> > >> > > quite surprised other compilers haven't complained about
>>> >>> >> > >> > > this
>>> >>> >> > problem.
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> > >> > Alright, the committed change is part of the updated
>>> >>> >> > >> > tarball,
>>> >>> >> > >> > at:
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> > >> >   http://pat.suwalski.net/celestia-1.6.1.tar.gz
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> > >> > The only outstanding issue I know of is the MacOS
>>> >>> >> > >> > versioning.
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> > >> > --Pat
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> > >> >
>>> >>> >> >
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>>
>>
>

Selden has pointed out that Ubuntu One's public file access is not working.

Alternative link for the Windows installer:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20485467/celestia/setup.exe

On 6 February 2011 15:26, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
> New Windows installer with the url.cpp changes at
> http://ubuntuone.com/p/bsI/ - it's slightly smaller than the last one
> because of the alterations to the compression settings.
>
> Andrew
>

On 05/02/11 07:56 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
>       if (ok) {
>           appCore->addToHistory();
> -        appCore->goToUrl(url.latin1());
> +        appCore->goToUrl(KURL(url).url(0, QTextCodec::codecForName("ISO8859-1")->mibEnum()).latin1());
>       }
>   }
>

That seems wrong, somehow. Why explicitly create a QTextCodec and assign 
it to ISO8859-1?

(Just got back from a really nice beach in Cuba, hoping we could release 
this week.)

--Pat

Oops that diff was from an experimental directory. Here's the proper one.

Idea behind it is to get the following two URLs to work in exactly the same way

cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3

cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3

(Basic idea was to use the MIB number to force it to escape the
non-Latin1 characters, turned out this is unnecessary)

Andrew

On 7 February 2011 22:10, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> On 05/02/11 07:56 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
>>       if (ok) {
>>           appCore->addToHistory();
>> -        appCore->goToUrl(url.latin1());
>> +        appCore->goToUrl(KURL(url).url(0, QTextCodec::codecForName("ISO8859-1")->mibEnum()).latin1());
>>       }
>>   }
>>
>
> That seems wrong, somehow. Why explicitly create a QTextCodec and assign
> it to ISO8859-1?
>
> (Just got back from a really nice beach in Cuba, hoping we could release
> this week.)
>
> --Pat
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> _______________________________________________
> Celestia-developers mailing list
> Celestia-developers@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>

I've uploaded a new 1.6.1 MacOS X build:

http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg

The only change is the cel URL / favorites fix.

--Chris

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...:

> Oops that diff was from an experimental directory. Here's the proper one.
>
> Idea behind it is to get the following two URLs to work in exactly the same
> way
>
>
> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
>
>
> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
>
> (Basic idea was to use the MIB number to force it to escape the
> non-Latin1 characters, turned out this is unnecessary)
>
> Andrew
>
> On 7 February 2011 22:10, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> > On 05/02/11 07:56 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> >>       if (ok) {
> >>           appCore->addToHistory();
> >> -        appCore->goToUrl(url.latin1());
> >> +        appCore->goToUrl(KURL(url).url(0,
> QTextCodec::codecForName("ISO8859-1")->mibEnum()).latin1());
> >>       }
> >>   }
> >>
> >
> > That seems wrong, somehow. Why explicitly create a QTextCodec and assign
> > it to ISO8859-1?
> >
> > (Just got back from a really nice beach in Cuba, hoping we could release
> > this week.)
> >
> > --Pat
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
> > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> > _______________________________________________
> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > Celestia-developers@...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> _______________________________________________
> Celestia-developers mailing list
> Celestia-developers@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>
>

I've uploaded the Windows installer with the latest versions of the
exoplanets data files.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20485467/celestia/setup.exe

Andrew

On 8 February 2011 23:30, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> I've uploaded a new 1.6.1 MacOS X build:
> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
> The only change is the cel URL / favorites fix.
> --Chris
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Oops that diff was from an experimental directory. Here's the proper one.
>>
>> Idea behind it is to get the following two URLs to work in exactly the
>> same way
>>
>>
>> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
>>
>>
>> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
>>
>> (Basic idea was to use the MIB number to force it to escape the
>> non-Latin1 characters, turned out this is unnecessary)
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 7 February 2011 22:10, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>> > On 05/02/11 07:56 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
>> >>       if (ok) {
>> >>           appCore->addToHistory();
>> >> -        appCore->goToUrl(url.latin1());
>> >> +        appCore->goToUrl(KURL(url).url(0,
>> >> QTextCodec::codecForName("ISO8859-1")->mibEnum()).latin1());
>> >>       }
>> >>   }
>> >>
>> >
>> > That seems wrong, somehow. Why explicitly create a QTextCodec and assign
>> > it to ISO8859-1?
>> >
>> > (Just got back from a really nice beach in Cuba, hoping we could release
>> > this week.)
>> >
>> > --Pat
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio
>> > XE:
>> > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
>> > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
>> > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Celestia-developers mailing list
>> > Celestia-developers@...
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> >
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>> Celestia-developers@...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>
>
>

Unfortunately, the installer requires that the person running it be
logged in with administrator privileges. Is there any way this can be
avoided?

Updating files from a non-admin account in a folder belonging to an 
administrator is likely to have issues. 

In most cases, this problem will be invisible, since most people
run with admin privs on single-user systems, but requiring that a
user of Celestia have admin privs should be unnecessary.

*sigh*

Selden

> I've uploaded the Windows installer with the latest versions of the
> exoplanets data files.

> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20485467/celestia/setup.exe

> Andrew

> On 8 February 2011 23:30, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> > I've uploaded a new 1.6.1 MacOS X build:
> > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
> > The only change is the cel URL / favorites fix.
> > --Chris
> > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Oops that diff was from an experimental directory. Here's the proper one.
> >>
> >> Idea behind it is to get the following two URLs to work in exactly the
> >> same way
> >>
> >>
> >> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
> >>
> >>
> >> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
> >>
> >> (Basic idea was to use the MIB number to force it to escape the
> >> non-Latin1 characters, turned out this is unnecessary)
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> On 7 February 2011 22:10, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> >> > On 05/02/11 07:56 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> >> >>       if (ok) {
> >> >>           appCore->addToHistory();
> >> >> -        appCore->goToUrl(url.latin1());
> >> >> +        appCore->goToUrl(KURL(url).url(0,
> >> >> QTextCodec::codecForName("ISO8859-1")->mibEnum()).latin1());
> >> >>       }
> >> >>   }
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > That seems wrong, somehow. Why explicitly create a QTextCodec and assign
> >> > it to ISO8859-1?
> >> >
> >> > (Just got back from a really nice beach in Cuba, hoping we could release
> >> > this week.)
> >> >
> >> > --Pat
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio
> >> > XE:
> >> > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> >> > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> >> > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> >> > Celestia-developers@...
> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
> >> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> >> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> >> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> >> Celestia-developers@...
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >>
> >
> >

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Yup. fail.

Although I installed Celestia (as admin) to a folder originally belonging 
to my non-priv'd account, the resulting folders are protected against writing
by a non-admin. e.g. I can't install addons in the extras folder.
Using Explorer's properties menu from the non-admin account
shows the folders to be readonly. Celestia can be run, but no changes
can be made to it.

This is not something I previously worried about.

This is under Windows XP SP3 x32.

*sigh*

s.

> Unfortunately, the installer requires that the person running it be
> logged in with administrator privileges. Is there any way this can be
> avoided?

> Updating files from a non-admin account in a folder belonging to an
> administrator is likely to have issues.

> In most cases, this problem will be invisible, since most people
> run with admin privs on single-user systems, but requiring that a
> user of Celestia have admin privs should be unnecessary.

> *sigh*

> Selden

> > I've uploaded the Windows installer with the latest versions of the
> > exoplanets data files.

> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20485467/celestia/setup.exe

> > Andrew

> > On 8 February 2011 23:30, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> > > I've uploaded a new 1.6.1 MacOS X build:
> > > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
> > > The only change is the cel URL / favorites fix.
> > > --Chris
> > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Oops that diff was from an experimental directory. Here's the proper one.
> > >>
> > >> Idea behind it is to get the following two URLs to work in exactly the
> > >> same way
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
> > >>
> > >> (Basic idea was to use the MIB number to force it to escape the
> > >> non-Latin1 characters, turned out this is unnecessary)
> > >>
> > >> Andrew
> > >>
> > >> On 7 February 2011 22:10, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> > >> > On 05/02/11 07:56 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> > >> >>       if (ok) {
> > >> >>           appCore->addToHistory();
> > >> >> -        appCore->goToUrl(url.latin1());
> > >> >> +        appCore->goToUrl(KURL(url).url(0,
> > >> >> QTextCodec::codecForName("ISO8859-1")->mibEnum()).latin1());
> > >> >>       }
> > >> >>   }
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > That seems wrong, somehow. Why explicitly create a QTextCodec and assign
> > >> > it to ISO8859-1?
> > >> >
> > >> > (Just got back from a really nice beach in Cuba, hoping we could release
> > >> > this week.)
> > >> >
> > >> > --Pat
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio
> > >> > XE:
> > >> > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> > >> > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> > >> > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
> > >> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> > >> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> > >> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> > >> Celestia-developers@...
> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> > >>
> > >
> > >

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Nice. From reading the Inno Setup FAQs this would seem to be because
of the writing of registry entries under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT during the
installation. (What happens if you turn off file and URL associatons?)
I think it might be possible to do a workaround using Inno Setup's
Pascal scripting feature, but that'll take me a while to research it.

Andrew

On 22 February 2011 20:33, Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@...> wrote:
>
> Yup. fail.
>
> Although I installed Celestia (as admin) to a folder originally belonging
> to my non-priv'd account, the resulting folders are protected against writing
> by a non-admin. e.g. I can't install addons in the extras folder.
> Using Explorer's properties menu from the non-admin account
> shows the folders to be readonly. Celestia can be run, but no changes
> can be made to it.
>
> This is not something I previously worried about.
>
> This is under Windows XP SP3 x32.
>
> *sigh*
>
> s.
>
>> Unfortunately, the installer requires that the person running it be
>> logged in with administrator privileges. Is there any way this can be
>> avoided?
>
>> Updating files from a non-admin account in a folder belonging to an
>> administrator is likely to have issues.
>
>> In most cases, this problem will be invisible, since most people
>> run with admin privs on single-user systems, but requiring that a
>> user of Celestia have admin privs should be unnecessary.
>
>> *sigh*
>
>> Selden
>
>> > I've uploaded the Windows installer with the latest versions of the
>> > exoplanets data files.
>
>> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20485467/celestia/setup.exe
>
>> > Andrew
>
>> > On 8 February 2011 23:30, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>> > > I've uploaded a new 1.6.1 MacOS X build:
>> > > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
>> > > The only change is the cel URL / favorites fix.
>> > > --Chris
>> > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Oops that diff was from an experimental directory. Here's the proper one.
>> > >>
>> > >> Idea behind it is to get the following two URLs to work in exactly the
>> > >> same way
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
>> > >>
>> > >> (Basic idea was to use the MIB number to force it to escape the
>> > >> non-Latin1 characters, turned out this is unnecessary)
>> > >>
>> > >> Andrew
>> > >>
>> > >> On 7 February 2011 22:10, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
>> > >> > On 05/02/11 07:56 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
>> > >> >>       if (ok) {
>> > >> >>           appCore->addToHistory();
>> > >> >> -        appCore->goToUrl(url.latin1());
>> > >> >> +        appCore->goToUrl(KURL(url).url(0,
>> > >> >> QTextCodec::codecForName("ISO8859-1")->mibEnum()).latin1());
>> > >> >>       }
>> > >> >>   }
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> > That seems wrong, somehow. Why explicitly create a QTextCodec and assign
>> > >> > it to ISO8859-1?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > (Just got back from a really nice beach in Cuba, hoping we could release
>> > >> > this week.)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --Pat
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio
>> > >> > XE:
>> > >> > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
>> > >> > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
>> > >> > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
>> > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
>> > >> > _______________________________________________
>> > >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
>> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
>> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
>> > >> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
>> > >> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
>> > >> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
>> > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
>> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> Celestia-developers mailing list
>> > >> Celestia-developers@...
>> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>
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>> > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business
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It doesn't get far enough for me to be able to select whether or not
icons or associations are set. setup.exe generates a popup which says 
"You must be an administrator to run this program."

(FWIW, If I select "run as..." and leave "current user" and "protect my
computer" selected, it fails even more quickly complaining it can't
write to a tmp file, so presumably it is getting past that point before
discovering it needs to be run as admin.)

s.

> Nice. From reading the Inno Setup FAQs this would seem to be because
> of the writing of registry entries under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT during the
> installation. (What happens if you turn off file and URL associatons?)
> I think it might be possible to do a workaround using Inno Setup's
> Pascal scripting feature, but that'll take me a while to research it.

> Andrew

> On 22 February 2011 20:33, Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@...> wrote:
> >
> > Yup. fail.
> >
> > Although I installed Celestia (as admin) to a folder originally belonging
> > to my non-priv'd account, the resulting folders are protected against writing
> > by a non-admin. e.g. I can't install addons in the extras folder.
> > Using Explorer's properties menu from the non-admin account
> > shows the folders to be readonly. Celestia can be run, but no changes
> > can be made to it.
> >
> > This is not something I previously worried about.
> >
> > This is under Windows XP SP3 x32.
> >
> > *sigh*
> >
> > s.
> >
> >> Unfortunately, the installer requires that the person running it be
> >> logged in with administrator privileges. Is there any way this can be
> >> avoided?
> >
> >> Updating files from a non-admin account in a folder belonging to an
> >> administrator is likely to have issues.
> >
> >> In most cases, this problem will be invisible, since most people
> >> run with admin privs on single-user systems, but requiring that a
> >> user of Celestia have admin privs should be unnecessary.
> >
> >> *sigh*
> >
> >> Selden
> >
> >> > I've uploaded the Windows installer with the latest versions of the
> >> > exoplanets data files.
> >
> >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20485467/celestia/setup.exe
> >
> >> > Andrew
> >
> >> > On 8 February 2011 23:30, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> >> > > I've uploaded a new 1.6.1 MacOS X build:
> >> > > http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
> >> > > The only change is the cel URL / favorites fix.
> >> > > --Chris
> >> > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Oops that diff was from an experimental directory. Here's the proper one.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Idea behind it is to get the following two URLs to work in exactly the
> >> > >> same way
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
> >> > >>
> >> > >> (Basic idea was to use the MIB number to force it to escape the
> >> > >> non-Latin1 characters, turned out this is unnecessary)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Andrew
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 7 February 2011 22:10, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> >> > >> > On 05/02/11 07:56 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> >> > >> >>       if (ok) {
> >> > >> >>           appCore->addToHistory();
> >> > >> >> -        appCore->goToUrl(url.latin1());
> >> > >> >> +        appCore->goToUrl(KURL(url).url(0,
> >> > >> >> QTextCodec::codecForName("ISO8859-1")->mibEnum()).latin1());
> >> > >> >>       }
> >> > >> >>   }
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > That seems wrong, somehow. Why explicitly create a QTextCodec and assign
> >> > >> > it to ISO8859-1?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > (Just got back from a really nice beach in Cuba, hoping we could release
> >> > >> > this week.)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > --Pat
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > >> > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio
> >> > >> > XE:
> >> > >> > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> >> > >> > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> >> > >> > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> >> > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> >> > >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> >> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
> >> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > >> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
> >> > >> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> >> > >> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> >> > >> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> >> > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> >> > >> _______________________________________________
> >> > >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> >> > >> Celestia-developers@...
> >> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >
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> >> > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual
> >> > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business
> >> > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev
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> >> > Celestia-developers@...
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> >
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I think that it's possible to make the file associations for the user only
rather than globally. This could be as simple as writing the registry
entries in HKEY_CURRENT_USER instead of root. I will check this tomorrow.

--Chris

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@...> wrote:

> It doesn't get far enough for me to be able to select whether or not
> icons or associations are set. setup.exe generates a popup which says
> "You must be an administrator to run this program."
>
> (FWIW, If I select "run as..." and leave "current user" and "protect my
> computer" selected, it fails even more quickly complaining it can't
> write to a tmp file, so presumably it is getting past that point before
> discovering it needs to be run as admin.)
>
> s.
>
> > Nice. From reading the Inno Setup FAQs this would seem to be because
> > of the writing of registry entries under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT during the
> > installation. (What happens if you turn off file and URL associatons?)
> > I think it might be possible to do a workaround using Inno Setup's
> > Pascal scripting feature, but that'll take me a while to research it.
>
> > Andrew
>
> > On 22 February 2011 20:33, Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yup. fail.
> > >
> > > Although I installed Celestia (as admin) to a folder originally
> belonging
> > > to my non-priv'd account, the resulting folders are protected against
> writing
> > > by a non-admin. e.g. I can't install addons in the extras folder.
> > > Using Explorer's properties menu from the non-admin account
> > > shows the folders to be readonly. Celestia can be run, but no changes
> > > can be made to it.
> > >
> > > This is not something I previously worried about.
> > >
> > > This is under Windows XP SP3 x32.
> > >
> > > *sigh*
> > >
> > > s.
> > >
> > >> Unfortunately, the installer requires that the person running it be
> > >> logged in with administrator privileges. Is there any way this can be
> > >> avoided?
> > >
> > >> Updating files from a non-admin account in a folder belonging to an
> > >> administrator is likely to have issues.
> > >
> > >> In most cases, this problem will be invisible, since most people
> > >> run with admin privs on single-user systems, but requiring that a
> > >> user of Celestia have admin privs should be unnecessary.
> > >
> > >> *sigh*
> > >
> > >> Selden
> > >
> > >> > I've uploaded the Windows installer with the latest versions of the
> > >> > exoplanets data files.
> > >
> > >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20485467/celestia/setup.exe
> > >
> > >> > Andrew
> > >
> > >> > On 8 February 2011 23:30, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> > >> > > I've uploaded a new 1.6.1 MacOS X build:
> > >> > >
> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
> > >> > > The only change is the cel URL / favorites fix.
> > >> > > --Chris
> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick <
> ajtribick@...>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Oops that diff was from an experimental directory. Here's the
> proper one.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Idea behind it is to get the following two URLs to work in
> exactly the
> > >> > >> same way
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> (Basic idea was to use the MIB number to force it to escape the
> > >> > >> non-Latin1 characters, turned out this is unnecessary)
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Andrew
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On 7 February 2011 22:10, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:
> > >> > >> > On 05/02/11 07:56 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> > >> > >> >>       if (ok) {
> > >> > >> >>           appCore->addToHistory();
> > >> > >> >> -        appCore->goToUrl(url.latin1());
> > >> > >> >> +        appCore->goToUrl(KURL(url).url(0,
> > >> > >> >> QTextCodec::codecForName("ISO8859-1")->mibEnum()).latin1());
> > >> > >> >>       }
> > >> > >> >>   }
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > That seems wrong, somehow. Why explicitly create a QTextCodec
> and assign
> > >> > >> > it to ISO8859-1?
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > (Just got back from a really nice beach in Cuba, hoping we
> could release
> > >> > >> > this week.)
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > --Pat
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > >> > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel
> Studio
> > >> > >> > XE:
> > >> > >> > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> > >> > >> > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development
> cycle.
> > >> > >> > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit
> performance.
> > >> > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > >> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
> > >> > >> >
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > >> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel
> Studio XE:
> > >> > >> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> > >> > >> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development
> cycle.
> > >> > >> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit
> performance.
> > >> > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> > >> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> > >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> > >> > >> Celestia-developers@...
> > >> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >
> > >> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT
> data in
> > >> > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast
> moving IT data
> > >> > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether
> physical, virtual
> > >> > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new
> business
> > >> > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data
> in
> > >> Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving
> IT data
> > >> generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical,
> virtual
> > >> or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new
> business
> > >> insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> > >> Celestia-developers@...
> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data
> in
> > > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving
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> > > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical,
> virtual
> > > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business
> > > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > > Celestia-developers@...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> > >
>
> >
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> > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT
> data
> > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical,
> virtual
> > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business
> > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > Celestia-developers@...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in
> Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT
> data
> generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical,
> virtual
> or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business
> insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev
> _______________________________________________
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> Celestia-developers@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>

Here's some information from MSDN:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724475(v=vs.85).aspx

It sounds like we should switch to putting the file association settings in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes. They won't apply to all users, but
that's a worthwhile tradeoff if we can make the installer run for users
without admin rights.

--Chris
*
*
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:

> I think that it's possible to make the file associations for the user only
> rather than globally. This could be as simple as writing the registry
> entries in HKEY_CURRENT_USER instead of root. I will check this tomorrow.
>
> --Chris
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@...:
>
>> It doesn't get far enough for me to be able to select whether or not
>> icons or associations are set. setup.exe generates a popup which says
>> "You must be an administrator to run this program."
>>
>> (FWIW, If I select "run as..." and leave "current user" and "protect my
>> computer" selected, it fails even more quickly complaining it can't
>> write to a tmp file, so presumably it is getting past that point before
>> discovering it needs to be run as admin.)
>>
>> s.
>>
>> > Nice. From reading the Inno Setup FAQs this would seem to be because
>> > of the writing of registry entries under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT during the
>> > installation. (What happens if you turn off file and URL associatons?)
>> > I think it might be possible to do a workaround using Inno Setup's
>> > Pascal scripting feature, but that'll take me a while to research it.
>>
>> > Andrew
>>
>> > On 22 February 2011 20:33, Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@...> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Yup. fail.
>> > >
>> > > Although I installed Celestia (as admin) to a folder originally
>> belonging
>> > > to my non-priv'd account, the resulting folders are protected against
>> writing
>> > > by a non-admin. e.g. I can't install addons in the extras folder.
>> > > Using Explorer's properties menu from the non-admin account
>> > > shows the folders to be readonly. Celestia can be run, but no changes
>> > > can be made to it.
>> > >
>> > > This is not something I previously worried about.
>> > >
>> > > This is under Windows XP SP3 x32.
>> > >
>> > > *sigh*
>> > >
>> > > s.
>> > >
>> > >> Unfortunately, the installer requires that the person running it be
>> > >> logged in with administrator privileges. Is there any way this can be
>> > >> avoided?
>> > >
>> > >> Updating files from a non-admin account in a folder belonging to an
>> > >> administrator is likely to have issues.
>> > >
>> > >> In most cases, this problem will be invisible, since most people
>> > >> run with admin privs on single-user systems, but requiring that a
>> > >> user of Celestia have admin privs should be unnecessary.
>> > >
>> > >> *sigh*
>> > >
>> > >> Selden
>> > >
>> > >> > I've uploaded the Windows installer with the latest versions of the
>> > >> > exoplanets data files.
>> > >
>> > >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20485467/celestia/setup.exe
>> > >
>> > >> > Andrew
>> > >
>> > >> > On 8 February 2011 23:30, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
>> > >> > > I've uploaded a new 1.6.1 MacOS X build:
>> > >> > >
>> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
>> > >> > > The only change is the cel URL / favorites fix.
>> > >> > > --Chris
>> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick <
>> ajtribick@...>
>> > >> > > wrote:
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> Oops that diff was from an experimental directory. Here's the
>> proper one.
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> Idea behind it is to get the following two URLs to work in
>> exactly the
>> > >> > >> same way
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>
>> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>
>> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> (Basic idea was to use the MIB number to force it to escape the
>> > >> > >> non-Latin1 characters, turned out this is unnecessary)
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> Andrew
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> On 7 February 2011 22:10, Pat Suwalski <pat@...>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > >> > On 05/02/11 07:56 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
>> > >> > >> >>       if (ok) {
>> > >> > >> >>           appCore->addToHistory();
>> > >> > >> >> -        appCore->goToUrl(url.latin1());
>> > >> > >> >> +        appCore->goToUrl(KURL(url).url(0,
>> > >> > >> >> QTextCodec::codecForName("ISO8859-1")->mibEnum()).latin1());
>> > >> > >> >>       }
>> > >> > >> >>   }
>> > >> > >> >>
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > That seems wrong, somehow. Why explicitly create a QTextCodec
>> and assign
>> > >> > >> > it to ISO8859-1?
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > (Just got back from a really nice beach in Cuba, hoping we
>> could release
>> > >> > >> > this week.)
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > --Pat
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> > >> > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel
>> Studio
>> > >> > >> > XE:
>> > >> > >> > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
>> > >> > >> > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development
>> cycle.
>> > >> > >> > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit
>> performance.
>> > >> > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
>> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________
>> > >> > >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
>> > >> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
>> > >> > >> >
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> > >> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel
>> Studio XE:
>> > >> > >> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
>> > >> > >> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development
>> cycle.
>> > >> > >> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit
>> performance.
>> > >> > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> > >> Celestia-developers mailing list
>> > >> > >> Celestia-developers@...
>> > >> > >>
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >
>> > >> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> > Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT
>> data in
>> > >> > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast
>> moving IT data
>> > >> > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether
>> physical, virtual
>> > >> > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new
>> business
>> > >> > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev
>> > >> > _______________________________________________
>> > >> > Celestia-developers mailing list
>> > >> > Celestia-developers@...
>> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT
>> data in
>> > >> Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving
>> IT data
>> > >> generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical,
>> virtual
>> > >> or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new
>> business
>> > >> insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev
>> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> Celestia-developers mailing list
>> > >> Celestia-developers@...
>> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data
>> in
>> > > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving
>> IT data
>> > > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical,
>> virtual
>> > > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new
>> business
>> > > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Celestia-developers mailing list
>> > > Celestia-developers@...
>> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>> > >
>>
>> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data
>> in
>> > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT
>> data
>> > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical,
>> virtual
>> > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business
>> > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Celestia-developers mailing list
>> > Celestia-developers@...
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in
>> Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT
>> data
>> generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical,
>> virtual
>> or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business
>> insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Celestia-developers mailing list
>> Celestia-developers@...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>
>
>

Would it be possible to make it an install-time option?

Presumably for just this reason, many installers ask
Do you want to install this software for all users or for
only the curreent user?

s.


> Here's some information from MSDN:

> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724475(v=vs.85).aspx

> It sounds like we should switch to putting the file association settings in
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes. They won't apply to all users, but
> that's a worthwhile tradeoff if we can make the installer run for users
> without admin rights.

> --Chris
> *
> *
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:

> > I think that it's possible to make the file associations for the user only
> > rather than globally. This could be as simple as writing the registry
> > entries in HKEY_CURRENT_USER instead of root. I will check this tomorrow.
> >
> > --Chris
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@...:
> >
> >> It doesn't get far enough for me to be able to select whether or not
> >> icons or associations are set. setup.exe generates a popup which says
> >> "You must be an administrator to run this program."
> >>
> >> (FWIW, If I select "run as..." and leave "current user" and "protect my
> >> computer" selected, it fails even more quickly complaining it can't
> >> write to a tmp file, so presumably it is getting past that point before
> >> discovering it needs to be run as admin.)
> >>
> >> s.
> >>
> >> > Nice. From reading the Inno Setup FAQs this would seem to be because
> >> > of the writing of registry entries under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT during the
> >> > installation. (What happens if you turn off file and URL associatons?)
> >> > I think it might be possible to do a workaround using Inno Setup's
> >> > Pascal scripting feature, but that'll take me a while to research it.
> >>
> >> > Andrew
> >>
> >> > On 22 February 2011 20:33, Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@...> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Yup. fail.
> >> > >
> >> > > Although I installed Celestia (as admin) to a folder originally
> >> belonging
> >> > > to my non-priv'd account, the resulting folders are protected against
> >> writing
> >> > > by a non-admin. e.g. I can't install addons in the extras folder.
> >> > > Using Explorer's properties menu from the non-admin account
> >> > > shows the folders to be readonly. Celestia can be run, but no changes
> >> > > can be made to it.
> >> > >
> >> > > This is not something I previously worried about.
> >> > >
> >> > > This is under Windows XP SP3 x32.
> >> > >
> >> > > *sigh*
> >> > >
> >> > > s.
> >> > >
> >> > >> Unfortunately, the installer requires that the person running it be
> >> > >> logged in with administrator privileges. Is there any way this can be
> >> > >> avoided?
> >> > >
> >> > >> Updating files from a non-admin account in a folder belonging to an
> >> > >> administrator is likely to have issues.
> >> > >
> >> > >> In most cases, this problem will be invisible, since most people
> >> > >> run with admin privs on single-user systems, but requiring that a
> >> > >> user of Celestia have admin privs should be unnecessary.
> >> > >
> >> > >> *sigh*
> >> > >
> >> > >> Selden
> >> > >
> >> > >> > I've uploaded the Windows installer with the latest versions of the
> >> > >> > exoplanets data files.
> >> > >
> >> > >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20485467/celestia/setup.exe
> >> > >
> >> > >> > Andrew
> >> > >
> >> > >> > On 8 February 2011 23:30, Chris Laurel <claurel@...> wrote:
> >> > >> > > I've uploaded a new 1.6.1 MacOS X build:
> >> > >> > >
> >> http://www.shatters.net/~claurel/celestia/files/celestia-osx-1.6.1.dmg
> >> > >> > > The only change is the cel URL / favorites fix.
> >> > >> > > --Chris
> >> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Tribick <
> >> ajtribick@...>
> >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Oops that diff was from an experimental directory. Here's the
> >> proper one.
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Idea behind it is to get the following two URLs to work in
> >> exactly the
> >> > >> > >> same way
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>
> >> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:G%c3%a4rtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>
> >> cel://Follow/Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner/2011-02-07T21:51:37.05301?x=mhPJHHFi8////////////w&y=XIGvXgKLIg&z=j4zhd1RNDw&ow=0.814404&ox=0.4714&oy=0.292737&oz=0.169802&select=Sol:Earth:Moon:Gärtner&fov=33.847&ts=1&ltd=0&p=0&rf=16691&lm=0&tsrc=0&ver=3
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> (Basic idea was to use the MIB number to force it to escape the
> >> > >> > >> non-Latin1 characters, turned out this is unnecessary)
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Andrew
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> On 7 February 2011 22:10, Pat Suwalski <pat@...>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >> > >> > On 05/02/11 07:56 AM, Andrew Tribick wrote:
> >> > >> > >> >>       if (ok) {
> >> > >> > >> >>           appCore->addToHistory();
> >> > >> > >> >> -        appCore->goToUrl(url.latin1());
> >> > >> > >> >> +        appCore->goToUrl(KURL(url).url(0,
> >> > >> > >> >> QTextCodec::codecForName("ISO8859-1")->mibEnum()).latin1());
> >> > >> > >> >>       }
> >> > >> > >> >>   }
> >> > >> > >> >>
> >> > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >> > That seems wrong, somehow. Why explicitly create a QTextCodec
> >> and assign
> >> > >> > >> > it to ISO8859-1?
> >> > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >> > (Just got back from a really nice beach in Cuba, hoping we
> >> could release
> >> > >> > >> > this week.)
> >> > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >> > --Pat
> >> > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >> >
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > >> > >> > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel
> >> Studio
> >> > >> > >> > XE:
> >> > >> > >> > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
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I've turned up a few examples of Pascal scripting that might enable
this. Will take a look at the weekend.

On another note, there are other changes to the datafiles that may
need to be included in v1.6.1 - Marco Klunder contacted me pointing
out that the data for the Galileo mission in the extras-standard
directory is a much older version than the one in trunk. I guess we
want to include these updates in the 1.6.1 release?

Andrew

On 28 February 2011 12:56, Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@...> wrote:
> Would it be possible to make it an install-time option?
>
> Presumably for just this reason, many installers ask
> Do you want to install this software for all users or for
> only the curreent user?
>
> s.
>

Ok I've made some changes to the installer so it can run as a normal
user without administrator privileges. If the installer runs as an
admin user it will proceed as normal, if it is run by a local user it
will install for that user only.

It would of course be nice to have the option for the administrator to
install it for their account only, but this then adds more complexity.

New version of the exe is up at
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20485467/celestia/setup.exe

Andrew

On 2 March 2011 22:13, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
> I've turned up a few examples of Pascal scripting that might enable
> this. Will take a look at the weekend.
>
> On another note, there are other changes to the datafiles that may
> need to be included in v1.6.1 - Marco Klunder contacted me pointing
> out that the data for the Galileo mission in the extras-standard
> directory is a much older version than the one in trunk. I guess we
> want to include these updates in the 1.6.1 release?
>
> Andrew
>
> On 28 February 2011 12:56, Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@...> wrote:
>> Would it be possible to make it an install-time option?
>>
>> Presumably for just this reason, many installers ask
>> Do you want to install this software for all users or for
>> only the curreent user?
>>
>> s.
>>
>

It works! It works!

I just now used the new installer from a non-priv'd account under XP sp3
and it created the new folder in my personal programs directory
and let me install addons there.

I also ran it under a fresh install of Win7 Enterprise x64 (noSP) and it 
worked equally well, installing into C:\Users\<name>\AppData\Local\Celestia\

Thanks!

It'd be nice if the installer said that it's installing only for the 
current user, but that's a "frill" I think.
It is implied by the location where it tries to install Celestia,
although I doubt most people would realize that.

An annoyance is that the AppData directory is hidden by default
unless you've properly configured Windows Explorer. (As I wrote,
this was a fresh install of Win7, and I've got a lot of configuring 
to do.)

Thanks, again,

s.

> Ok I've made some changes to the installer so it can run as a normal
> user without administrator privileges. If the installer runs as an
> admin user it will proceed as normal, if it is run by a local user it
> will install for that user only.

> It would of course be nice to have the option for the administrator to
> install it for their account only, but this then adds more complexity.

> New version of the exe is up at
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20485467/celestia/setup.exe

> Andrew

> On 2 March 2011 22:13, Andrew Tribick <ajtribick@...> wrote:
> > I've turned up a few examples of Pascal scripting that might enable
> > this. Will take a look at the weekend.
> >
> > On another note, there are other changes to the datafiles that may
> > need to be included in v1.6.1 - Marco Klunder contacted me pointing
> > out that the data for the Galileo mission in the extras-standard
> > directory is a much older version than the one in trunk. I guess we
> > want to include these updates in the 1.6.1 release?
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > On 28 February 2011 12:56, Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@...> wrote:
> >> Would it be possible to make it an install-time option?
> >>
> >> Presumably for just this reason, many installers ask
> >> Do you want to install this software for all users or for
> >> only the curreent user?
> >>
> >> s.
> >>
> >

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That's good to know. Marco Klunder has also reported successful
installation, albeit with weird problems when he first tried to
overwrite the files from my previous installer (I suspect a
permissions issue, but I don't have Windows 7 to investigate it
fully).

On another note, did anyone test the latest version of my KDE
bookmarks patch (reattached here)?

Andrew

On 7 March 2011 19:35, Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@...> wrote:
> It works! It works!
>
> I just now used the new installer from a non-priv'd account under XP sp3
> and it created the new folder in my personal programs directory
> and let me install addons there.
>
> I also ran it under a fresh install of Win7 Enterprise x64 (noSP) and it
> worked equally well, installing into C:\Users\<name>\AppData\Local\Celestia\
>
> Thanks!
>
> It'd be nice if the installer said that it's installing only for the
> current user, but that's a "frill" I think.
> It is implied by the location where it tries to install Celestia,
> although I doubt most people would realize that.
>
> An annoyance is that the AppData directory is hidden by default
> unless you've properly configured Windows Explorer. (As I wrote,
> this was a fresh install of Win7, and I've got a lot of configuring
> to do.)
>
> Thanks, again,
>
> s.

> That's good to know. Marco Klunder has also reported successful
> installation, albeit with weird problems when he first tried to
> overwrite the files from my previous installer (I suspect a
> permissions issue, but I don't have Windows 7 to investigate it
> fully).

I can't comment on that: I *never* overwrite previous Celestia
installs. There are far too many problems that it might cause.

s.

> On another note, did anyone test the latest version of my KDE
> bookmarks patch (reattached here)?

> Andrew

> On 7 March 2011 19:35, Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@...> wrote:
> > It works! It works!
> >
> > I just now used the new installer from a non-priv'd account under XP sp3
> > and it created the new folder in my personal programs directory
> > and let me install addons there.
> >
> > I also ran it under a fresh install of Win7 Enterprise x64 (noSP) and it
> > worked equally well, installing into C:\Users\<name>\AppData\Local\Celestia\
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > It'd be nice if the installer said that it's installing only for the
> > current user, but that's a "frill" I think.
> > It is implied by the location where it tries to install Celestia,
> > although I doubt most people would realize that.
> >
> > An annoyance is that the AppData directory is hidden by default
> > unless you've properly configured Windows Explorer. (As I wrote,
> > this was a fresh install of Win7, and I've got a lot of configuring
> > to do.)
> >
> > Thanks, again,
> >
> > s.