jOrgan

Hi, Matt,

            ...Come to that, has anyone REALLY managed ANYTHING of interest to this forum in Ubuntu or any other flavour of Linux?

   Don't get me wrong, I'm on your side basically. I had jOrgan sort of running under Ubuntustudio once and have acted as Guinea pig for some of Graham's Puppy Linux attempts. I also await him having time to solve some driver issues with an Edirol system but somehow all this Linux stuff "Seemed like a good idea at the time." It's so frustrating, always looks as though it COULD do the job but somehow DOESN'T quite!

   What makes it even more curious is (Correct me if I'm wrong here, Sven, such things HAVE been known to happen!) jOrgan is actually developed on a Linux machine.


    Have fun,

      Roy.

  

--- On Tue, 13/4/10, Matt Pestle <matt.pestle@...> wrote:

From: Matt Pestle <matt.pestle@...>
Subject: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu
To: jorgan-user@...
Date: Tuesday, 13 April, 2010, 21:08

There was some discussion not long ago on two touchscreens with jOrgan. 
It seems some have managed this in the Windows world but there was no 
mention of other OSs.

Has anyone successfully implemented two touchscreens with Ubuntu (or any 
other flavour of Linux), and if so can you share any information on a 
functioning setup? Screen models, drivers, configuration, etc?

Cheers,
Matt


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Strewth Roy, I was trying to avoid inflaming that old argument!

My Ubuntu/jOrgan is running fabulously. Windows is great for lots of 
people for lots of reasons. Personally, I've spent too many years in 
education and IT and can't bring myself to contribute to Microsoft's 
dumbing down of the general public's understanding of computing ... just 
a philosophical thing.

It's probably more of an effort, I'll give you that, but we'll get there 
eventually. But if anyone's been there before it might save me a lot of 
time ...

Cheers,
Matt


Roy Radford wrote:
> Hi, Matt,
>
>             ...Come to that, has anyone REALLY managed ANYTHING of interest to this forum in Ubuntu or any other flavour of Linux?
>
>    Don't get me wrong, I'm on your side basically. I had jOrgan sort of running under Ubuntustudio once and have acted as Guinea pig for some of Graham's Puppy Linux attempts. I also await him having time to solve some driver issues with an Edirol system but somehow all this Linux stuff "Seemed like a good idea at the time." It's so frustrating, always looks as though it COULD do the job but somehow DOESN'T quite!
>
>    What makes it even more curious is (Correct me if I'm wrong here, Sven, such things HAVE been known to happen!) jOrgan is actually developed on a Linux machine.
>
>
>     Have fun,
>
>       Roy.
>
>   
>
> --- On Tue, 13/4/10, Matt Pestle <matt.pestle@...> wrote:
>
> From: Matt Pestle <matt.pestle@...>
> Subject: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu
> To: jorgan-user@...
> Date: Tuesday, 13 April, 2010, 21:08
>
> There was some discussion not long ago on two touchscreens with jOrgan. 
> It seems some have managed this in the Windows world but there was no 
> mention of other OSs.
>
> Has anyone successfully implemented two touchscreens with Ubuntu (or any 
> other flavour of Linux), and if so can you share any information on a 
> functioning setup? Screen models, drivers, configuration, etc?
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
>
>
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My organ console also runs Linux and I couldn't be happier with it.
Unfortunately, Matt, I can't help with touchscreens, since I don't have one
(much less 2).  I was curious, though, and found this, which seemed
promising...
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/input-devices/85153-dual-touch-screen.html

On Apr 13, 2010 6:18 PM, "Matt Pestle" <matt.pestle@...> wrote:

Strewth Roy, I was trying to avoid inflaming that old argument!

My Ubuntu/jOrgan is running fabulously. Windows is great for lots of
people for lots of reasons. Personally, I've spent too many years in
education and IT and can't bring myself to contribute to Microsoft's
dumbing down of the general public's understanding of computing ... just
a philosophical thing.

It's probably more of an effort, I'll give you that, but we'll get there
eventually. But if anyone's been there before it might save me a lot of
time ...

Cheers,
Matt



Roy Radford wrote:
> Hi, Matt,
>
> ...Come to that, has anyone REALLY managed ANYTHING...
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The most useful discussion of this I've found is with the 3M linux drivers, where they provide some automated tools for doing this:
http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=SSSSSu7zK1fslxtUmY_Un8txev7qeDVFNvTSevTSeSSSSSS--
It should be possible to do this manually with just about any displays and touchscreen drivers -- you should be able to have as many touchscreens as you want, but you need to edit the xorg11 files to associate the pointing device(and possibly keyboard) with a specific display.






________________________________
From: Matt Pestle <matt.pestle@...>
To: jorgan-user@...
Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 3:08:03 PM
Subject: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu

There was some discussion not long ago on two touchscreens with jOrgan. 
It seems some have managed this in the Windows world but there was no 
mention of other OSs.

Has anyone successfully implemented two touchscreens with Ubuntu (or any 
other flavour of Linux), and if so can you share any information on a 
functioning setup? Screen models, drivers, configuration, etc?

Cheers,
Matt


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Hi Roy,

I'm using jOrgan on my 32bit Netbook and 64bit desktop PC (both running
Ubuntu) and everything works fine.

What issues do you see having a need "to be managed"?

Regards

Sven
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Hi, Sven,

         Thank you for your interest. It's a long story, and may not be of interest to many!..

  The Ubuntustudio setup which I said "sort of worked" was on version 7. It was difficult to keep track of which USB keyboard was which among 3. Linux awards numbers according to the order in which things are switched on, so it becomes an issue of self-discipline really.

   I also had stability problems, possibly because the system was dual boot between Windows and Linux. I've heard since that dual boot can be a source of trouble.

   Moving on, Ubuntustudio 8 lost the real-time core, making it less suitable for organ use. 9 and 10 restored it, but somewhere along the line the offline installer became corrupted and, so far as I know, has never been corrected. It will only install if you leave out the main thing we need, the audio functions!

   I'm told you CAN install the extra bits offline, but chasing all the chains of dependencies is a PIA! The general feeling I get from Linux forums is that it is not really a practical proposition to install offline. This view is reinforced by lack of attention to the offline installer problem which is known to to Linux community and has persisted through at least 3 issues of Ubuntustudio.

   ...Which brings us to what is, for me, the biggest single issue. I have never managed to get Linux to connect to BT Broadband. I don't seem to be alone. One of the Linux forums had a lengthy thread on the subject, but it fizzled out with more questions than answers.

  My situation has now changed. As you know from the massive disposition I sent you, I'm now concentrating on using jOrgan as a relay for a couple of Edorol SD-20 sound modules. This changes the situation completely. Since the computer is relieved of all the synthesizer chores, latency is no longer an issue, so any flavour of Linux would be OK. I may re-visit this issue in the near future, but I suspect the next question is which ones have a driver for the Edirol units.

    Puppy Linux has a suitable driver but has issues with working with 3 USB keyboards plus two SD-20s. Graham is looking into that one but is very busy at present.

  Have fun,

    Roy.

   

--- On Wed, 14/4/10, Sven Meier <sven@...> wrote:

> From: Sven Meier <sven@...>
> Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu
> To: jorgan-user@...
> Date: Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 7:12
> 
> Hi Roy,
> 
> I'm using jOrgan on my 32bit Netbook and 64bit desktop PC
> (both running
> Ubuntu) and everything works fine.
> 
> What issues do you see having a need "to be managed"?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sven
> -- 
> View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/touchscreens-in-Ubuntu-tp1838971p1839340.html
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> Nabble.com.
> 
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I had jOrgan running quite sweetly in Open Suse 10.2 a couple of years ago.

Having tried Ubuntu (and a couple of other distros that were far too "nerdy" 
for me) I concluded that OpenSuse was similar enough to Windows that I could 
adapt without too much PIA.

I even managed to get Suse sharing the printer attached to my XP box - which 
was quite a feat, and I'm not sure I could repeat it today and two years 
older!

I certainly didn't have any broadband issues.

I got the impression that Ubuntu was primarily for people who wanted to 
download mp3s and copy pirate DVDs etc., but the support for serious audio 
work was not there. I could never make the real time thingy work with 
Ubuntu, and their Studio/multimedia variation seemd to be more oriented 
towards graphics than audio - whereas I was able to get these things working 
with Suse without needing "support" - perhaps it was just the way my brain 
is wired...

The main reason I didn't persist with Linux was because there were certain 
applications that I wanted to use that were never going to be ported to 
Linux and others that didn't have a Linux equivalent - or if they did, I 
couldn't face the learning curve involved. And when Fluidsynth for Windoze 
came out, there didn't seem any point in maintaining two operating systems. 
So when I re-built my organ PC and upgraded (??) to 64-bit Vista, I didn't 
bother re-installing Linux.

But I still miss the little penguin - and if there were more hours in a day 
...

GrahamH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Radford" <roy.radford42@...>
To: <jorgan-user@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu


Hi, Sven,

         Thank you for your interest. It's a long story, and may not be of 
interest to many!..

  The Ubuntustudio setup which I said "sort of worked" was on version 7. It 
was difficult to keep track of which USB keyboard was which among 3. Linux 
awards numbers according to the order in which things are switched on, so it 
becomes an issue of self-discipline really.

   I also had stability problems, possibly because the system was dual boot 
between Windows and Linux. I've heard since that dual boot can be a source 
of trouble.

   Moving on, Ubuntustudio 8 lost the real-time core, making it less 
suitable for organ use. 9 and 10 restored it, but somewhere along the line 
the offline installer became corrupted and, so far as I know, has never been 
corrected. It will only install if you leave out the main thing we need, the 
audio functions!

   I'm told you CAN install the extra bits offline, but chasing all the 
chains of dependencies is a PIA! The general feeling I get from Linux forums 
is that it is not really a practical proposition to install offline. This 
view is reinforced by lack of attention to the offline installer problem 
which is known to to Linux community and has persisted through at least 3 
issues of Ubuntustudio.

   ...Which brings us to what is, for me, the biggest single issue. I have 
never managed to get Linux to connect to BT Broadband. I don't seem to be 
alone. One of the Linux forums had a lengthy thread on the subject, but it 
fizzled out with more questions than answers.

  My situation has now changed. As you know from the massive disposition I 
sent you, I'm now concentrating on using jOrgan as a relay for a couple of 
Edorol SD-20 sound modules. This changes the situation completely. Since the 
computer is relieved of all the synthesizer chores, latency is no longer an 
issue, so any flavour of Linux would be OK. I may re-visit this issue in the 
near future, but I suspect the next question is which ones have a driver for 
the Edirol units.

    Puppy Linux has a suitable driver but has issues with working with 3 USB 
keyboards plus two SD-20s. Graham is looking into that one but is very busy 
at present.

  Have fun,

    Roy.



--- On Wed, 14/4/10, Sven Meier <sven@...> wrote:

> From: Sven Meier <sven@...>
> Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu
> To: jorgan-user@...
> Date: Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 7:12
>
> Hi Roy,
>
> I'm using jOrgan on my 32bit Netbook and 64bit desktop PC
> (both running
> Ubuntu) and everything works fine.
>
> What issues do you see having a need "to be managed"?
>
> Regards
>
> Sven
> -- 
> View this message in context: 
> http://n4.nabble.com/touchscreens-in-Ubuntu-tp1838971p1839340.html
> Sent from the jOrgan - User mailing list archive at
> Nabble.com.
>
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Hi Roy,

ok, so these are no jOrgan+Linux issues but you're 'just' struggling with
Linux as many others (including me).

>Linux awards numbers according to the order in which things are switched on

I wonder how other linux programs are handling device names.

>stability problems, possibly because the system was dual boot between
Windows and Linux

Ubuntu is rock-solid on my system and I couldn't think of a reason why dual
boot should cause any problems.

>Ubuntustudio ... real-time core

I never bothered about a real-time core, fluidsynth is just doing fine here.
However I'm not so picky about sound quality as many others on this list.

>connect to BT Broadband

Don't you have a BT hub?
   https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/26059

>Since the computer is relieved of all the synthesizer chores, latency is no
longer an issue,
>so any flavour of Linux would be OK.

Well, maybe time to give Linux another chance?

Regards

Sven
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I just switched to Linux for my desktop computer on my work (have been 
working on Linux servers for years). A few years back I wasn't satisfied 
with the desktop (wobbly fonts, stupid interface), but now, after a few 
weeks with standard Debian/Gnome, I don't think I will need Windows 
again. Even the sound interface worked without ado, and I didn't find 
the setup more bothersome than a Windows setup (unless you buy a 
preinstalled computer). Aren't there any preinstalled Linux computers on 
sale, optimized for sound, by the way?

I'm going to try it out it at home on one of my laptops. I don't expect 
problems with sound drivers, as all of my modules are USB-driven. 
Jorgan, as a Java application, will run out of the box, of course. I 
would be very much interested, though, in hearing about touch screen 
monitors for Linux. Geert send me a link for a 300 Euro one here in Holland:

http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Monitoren_Touchscreen/Iiyama/T2250MTS-B1/-1083100/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Monitoren&l2=Touchscreen

but that only seems to work with Windows 7. Any pointers for a Linux 
screen would be very much appreciated.

Jan

On 04/14/10 11:35, Sven Meier wrote:
> Hi Roy,
>
> ok, so these are no jOrgan+Linux issues but you're 'just' struggling with
> Linux as many others (including me).
>
>    
>> Linux awards numbers according to the order in which things are switched on
>>      
> I wonder how other linux programs are handling device names.
>
>    
>> stability problems, possibly because the system was dual boot between
>>      
> Windows and Linux
>
> Ubuntu is rock-solid on my system and I couldn't think of a reason why dual
> boot should cause any problems.
>
>    
>> Ubuntustudio ... real-time core
>>      
> I never bothered about a real-time core, fluidsynth is just doing fine here.
> However I'm not so picky about sound quality as many others on this list.
>
>    
>> connect to BT Broadband
>>      
> Don't you have a BT hub?
>     https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/26059
>
>    
>> Since the computer is relieved of all the synthesizer chores, latency is no
>>      
> longer an issue,
>    
>> so any flavour of Linux would be OK.
>>      
> Well, maybe time to give Linux another chance?
>
> Regards
>
> Sven
>

I recently bought two of these, for use with Vista 64 bit in portrait mode 
as virtual stop jambs with jOrgan GUIs..
http://www.morecomputers.com/extra.asp?pn=PV5931T&referer=Froogle

I needed to download the latest drivers from the TouchKit website - and in 
passing, noticed this relating to Linux:

http://www.touchkit.com/LinuxDriver.htm

As with all things Linux it would appear you have to be a bit cute to get 
the right things in the right place, but the general impression is that 
Linux drivers are certainly available.

GrahamH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jan Hartmann" <j.l.h.hartmann@...>
To: <jorgan-user@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu


>I just switched to Linux for my desktop computer on my work (have been
> working on Linux servers for years). A few years back I wasn't satisfied
> with the desktop (wobbly fonts, stupid interface), but now, after a few
> weeks with standard Debian/Gnome, I don't think I will need Windows
> again. Even the sound interface worked without ado, and I didn't find
> the setup more bothersome than a Windows setup (unless you buy a
> preinstalled computer). Aren't there any preinstalled Linux computers on
> sale, optimized for sound, by the way?
>
> I'm going to try it out it at home on one of my laptops. I don't expect
> problems with sound drivers, as all of my modules are USB-driven.
> Jorgan, as a Java application, will run out of the box, of course. I
> would be very much interested, though, in hearing about touch screen
> monitors for Linux. Geert send me a link for a 300 Euro one here in 
> Holland:
>
> http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Monitoren_Touchscreen/Iiyama/T2250MTS-B1/-1083100/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Monitoren&l2=Touchscreen
>
> but that only seems to work with Windows 7. Any pointers for a Linux
> screen would be very much appreciated.
>
> Jan
>
> On 04/14/10 11:35, Sven Meier wrote:
>> Hi Roy,
>>
>> ok, so these are no jOrgan+Linux issues but you're 'just' struggling with
>> Linux as many others (including me).
>>
>>
>>> Linux awards numbers according to the order in which things are switched 
>>> on
>>>
>> I wonder how other linux programs are handling device names.
>>
>>
>>> stability problems, possibly because the system was dual boot between
>>>
>> Windows and Linux
>>
>> Ubuntu is rock-solid on my system and I couldn't think of a reason why 
>> dual
>> boot should cause any problems.
>>
>>
>>> Ubuntustudio ... real-time core
>>>
>> I never bothered about a real-time core, fluidsynth is just doing fine 
>> here.
>> However I'm not so picky about sound quality as many others on this list.
>>
>>
>>> connect to BT Broadband
>>>
>> Don't you have a BT hub?
>>     https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/26059
>>
>>
>>> Since the computer is relieved of all the synthesizer chores, latency is 
>>> no
>>>
>> longer an issue,
>>
>>> so any flavour of Linux would be OK.
>>>
>> Well, maybe time to give Linux another chance?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Sven
>>
>
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Hah, compiling a Linux kernel. Last time I did that was in 1995, and I 
didn't like it, got better things to do. And nowadays I am even less 
cute than in those days. I think I am going to try it out with my 
Windows laptop first, and then, when I have really lots of time (next 
century or so), on the Linux one. Has anyone ever tried to use Jorgan 
with two standalone PC's at the same time? Should be possible with two 
MIDI-ins and a mix panel for sound output.

Jan

On 04/14/10 12:20, Graham Harrison wrote:
> I recently bought two of these, for use with Vista 64 bit in portrait mode
> as virtual stop jambs with jOrgan GUIs..
> http://www.morecomputers.com/extra.asp?pn=PV5931T&referer=Froogle
>
> I needed to download the latest drivers from the TouchKit website - and in
> passing, noticed this relating to Linux:
>
> http://www.touchkit.com/LinuxDriver.htm
>
> As with all things Linux it would appear you have to be a bit cute to get
> the right things in the right place, but the general impression is that
> Linux drivers are certainly available.
>
> GrahamH
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jan Hartmann"<j.l.h.hartmann@...>
> To:<jorgan-user@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu
>
>
>    
>> I just switched to Linux for my desktop computer on my work (have been
>> working on Linux servers for years). A few years back I wasn't satisfied
>> with the desktop (wobbly fonts, stupid interface), but now, after a few
>> weeks with standard Debian/Gnome, I don't think I will need Windows
>> again. Even the sound interface worked without ado, and I didn't find
>> the setup more bothersome than a Windows setup (unless you buy a
>> preinstalled computer). Aren't there any preinstalled Linux computers on
>> sale, optimized for sound, by the way?
>>
>> I'm going to try it out it at home on one of my laptops. I don't expect
>> problems with sound drivers, as all of my modules are USB-driven.
>> Jorgan, as a Java application, will run out of the box, of course. I
>> would be very much interested, though, in hearing about touch screen
>> monitors for Linux. Geert send me a link for a 300 Euro one here in
>> Holland:
>>
>> http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Monitoren_Touchscreen/Iiyama/T2250MTS-B1/-1083100/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Monitoren&l2=Touchscreen
>>
>> but that only seems to work with Windows 7. Any pointers for a Linux
>> screen would be very much appreciated.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> On 04/14/10 11:35, Sven Meier wrote:
>>      
>>> Hi Roy,
>>>
>>> ok, so these are no jOrgan+Linux issues but you're 'just' struggling with
>>> Linux as many others (including me).
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Linux awards numbers according to the order in which things are switched
>>>> on
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> I wonder how other linux programs are handling device names.
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> stability problems, possibly because the system was dual boot between
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Windows and Linux
>>>
>>> Ubuntu is rock-solid on my system and I couldn't think of a reason why
>>> dual
>>> boot should cause any problems.
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Ubuntustudio ... real-time core
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> I never bothered about a real-time core, fluidsynth is just doing fine
>>> here.
>>> However I'm not so picky about sound quality as many others on this list.
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> connect to BT Broadband
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Don't you have a BT hub?
>>>      https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/26059
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Since the computer is relieved of all the synthesizer chores, latency is
>>>> no
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> longer an issue,
>>>
>>>        
>>>> so any flavour of Linux would be OK.
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Well, maybe time to give Linux another chance?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Sven
>>>
>>>        
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Hi, Sven,

          "Well, maybe time to give Linux another chance?"

  Yes, I think so, but maybe not JUST yet. At present I'm studying a new (To me!) version of the Microchip PIC system ready to "MIDI-fy" an ancient Technics E66 organ. Now I've tested the Edirol units with jOrgan I'm satisfied that, from a technical point of view, I know where I'm going  wrt building a genuinely playable instrument. 

   At long last, it's time to look at ways and means of building it all into a prettier box than the heap of unpainted chipboard I have at present!


    Have fun,

      Roy.

PS. No, I don't have a BT hub, just a Voyager (Software) modem. Thanks for the link, I'll check that one out.



--- On Wed, 14/4/10, Sven Meier <sven@...> wrote:

> From: Sven Meier <sven@...>
> Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu
> To: jorgan-user@...
> Date: Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 10:35
> 
> Hi Roy,
> 
> ok, so these are no jOrgan+Linux issues but you're 'just'
> struggling with
> Linux as many others (including me).
> 
> >Linux awards numbers according to the order in which
> things are switched on
> 
> I wonder how other linux programs are handling device
> names.
> 
> >stability problems, possibly because the system was
> dual boot between
> Windows and Linux
> 
> Ubuntu is rock-solid on my system and I couldn't think of a
> reason why dual
> boot should cause any problems.
> 
> >Ubuntustudio ... real-time core
> 
> I never bothered about a real-time core, fluidsynth is just
> doing fine here.
> However I'm not so picky about sound quality as many others
> on this list.
> 
> >connect to BT Broadband
> 
> Don't you have a BT hub?
>    https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/26059
> 
> >Since the computer is relieved of all the synthesizer
> chores, latency is no
> longer an issue,
> >so any flavour of Linux would be OK.
> 
> Well, maybe time to give Linux another chance?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sven
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That's interesting Graham, I am certainly going to try it out, if only 
to experiment with Linux and Jorgan without having to set up a touch 
screen for Linux. And it might be easier to set up a complex Jorgan 
system with two dedicated PC's (say one for main, one for pedal), than 
to combine everything in one system, even with multiple processors. Old 
PC's are dirt cheap nowadays, and perhaps I have a feeling that it is 
easier to setup two simple Jorgan systems than one complex one. It's not 
so much the raw computing power and sound facilities, as the almost 
unbelievable possibilities of Jorgan nowadays that could make a dual 
setup conceptually clearer than one massive system.

Thanks,

Jan

On 04/14/10 13:16, Graham Harrison wrote:
> Hi Jan
>
> I did it about four or five (?) years ago, using 
> http://www.ebertronic.com/downloadMidiViaNet.htm
>
> If I remember correctly, I hooked together a Windows XP box and a 
> Windows 98 box.
> The objective was to get more polyphony by utilising more Soundblaster 
> soundcards, and it worked OK. But then I got involved with sfz, and 
> Fluidsynth, and the polyphony limitations of Soundblaster cards became 
> a thing of the past.  Also, the more modern dual and quad core 
> processors made multiple PCs unnecessary.
>
> GrahamH
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Hartmann" <j.l.h.hartmann@...>
> To: <jorgan-user@...>
> Cc: "Graham Harrison" <fg.harrison@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu
>
>
>> Hah, compiling a Linux kernel. Last time I did that was in 1995, and I
>> didn't like it, got better things to do. And nowadays I am even less
>> cute than in those days. I think I am going to try it out with my
>> Windows laptop first, and then, when I have really lots of time (next
>> century or so), on the Linux one. Has anyone ever tried to use Jorgan
>> with two standalone PC's at the same time? Should be possible with two
>> MIDI-ins and a mix panel for sound output.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> On 04/14/10 12:20, Graham Harrison wrote:
>>> I recently bought two of these, for use with Vista 64 bit in 
>>> portrait mode
>>> as virtual stop jambs with jOrgan GUIs..
>>> http://www.morecomputers.com/extra.asp?pn=PV5931T&referer=Froogle
>>>
>>> I needed to download the latest drivers from the TouchKit website - 
>>> and in
>>> passing, noticed this relating to Linux:
>>>
>>> http://www.touchkit.com/LinuxDriver.htm
>>>
>>> As with all things Linux it would appear you have to be a bit cute 
>>> to get
>>> the right things in the right place, but the general impression is that
>>> Linux drivers are certainly available.
>>>
>>> GrahamH
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jan Hartmann"<j.l.h.hartmann@...>
>>> To:<jorgan-user@...>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:54 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I just switched to Linux for my desktop computer on my work (have been
>>>> working on Linux servers for years). A few years back I wasn't 
>>>> satisfied
>>>> with the desktop (wobbly fonts, stupid interface), but now, after a 
>>>> few
>>>> weeks with standard Debian/Gnome, I don't think I will need Windows
>>>> again. Even the sound interface worked without ado, and I didn't find
>>>> the setup more bothersome than a Windows setup (unless you buy a
>>>> preinstalled computer). Aren't there any preinstalled Linux 
>>>> computers on
>>>> sale, optimized for sound, by the way?
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to try it out it at home on one of my laptops. I don't 
>>>> expect
>>>> problems with sound drivers, as all of my modules are USB-driven.
>>>> Jorgan, as a Java application, will run out of the box, of course. I
>>>> would be very much interested, though, in hearing about touch screen
>>>> monitors for Linux. Geert send me a link for a 300 Euro one here in
>>>> Holland:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Monitoren_Touchscreen/Iiyama/T2250MTS-B1/-1083100/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Monitoren&l2=Touchscreen 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> but that only seems to work with Windows 7. Any pointers for a Linux
>>>> screen would be very much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>> On 04/14/10 11:35, Sven Meier wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Roy,
>>>>>
>>>>> ok, so these are no jOrgan+Linux issues but you're 'just' 
>>>>> struggling with
>>>>> Linux as many others (including me).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux awards numbers according to the order in which things are 
>>>>>> switched
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder how other linux programs are handling device names.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> stability problems, possibly because the system was dual boot 
>>>>>> between
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Windows and Linux
>>>>>
>>>>> Ubuntu is rock-solid on my system and I couldn't think of a reason 
>>>>> why
>>>>> dual
>>>>> boot should cause any problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ubuntustudio ... real-time core
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I never bothered about a real-time core, fluidsynth is just doing 
>>>>> fine
>>>>> here.
>>>>> However I'm not so picky about sound quality as many others on 
>>>>> this list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> connect to BT Broadband
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Don't you have a BT hub?
>>>>>      https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/26059
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since the computer is relieved of all the synthesizer chores, 
>>>>>> latency is
>>>>>> no
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> longer an issue,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> so any flavour of Linux would be OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, maybe time to give Linux another chance?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Sven
>>>>>
>>>>>
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see
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Udev   
for a script that will assign multiple instances of the same USB device to the same alsa device numbers every time.






________________________________
From: Roy Radford <roy.radford42@...>
To: jorgan-user@...
Sent: Wed, April 14, 2010 2:52:58 AM
Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu

Hi, Sven,

         Thank you for your interest. It's a long story, and may not be of interest to many!..

  The Ubuntustudio setup which I said "sort of worked" was on version 7. It was difficult to keep track of which USB keyboard was which among 3. Linux awards numbers according to the order in which things are switched on, so it becomes an issue of self-discipline really.

   I also had stability problems, possibly because the system was dual boot between Windows and Linux. I've heard since that dual boot can be a source of trouble.

   Moving on, Ubuntustudio 8 lost the real-time core, making it less suitable for organ use. 9 and 10 restored it, but somewhere along the line the offline installer became corrupted and, so far as I know, has never been corrected. It will only install if you leave out the main thing we need, the audio functions!

   I'm told you CAN install the extra bits offline, but chasing all the chains of dependencies is a PIA! The general feeling I get from Linux forums is that it is not really a practical proposition to install offline. This view is reinforced by lack of attention to the offline installer problem which is known to to Linux community and has persisted through at least 3 issues of Ubuntustudio.

   ...Which brings us to what is, for me, the biggest single issue. I have never managed to get Linux to connect to BT Broadband. I don't seem to be alone. One of the Linux forums had a lengthy thread on the subject, but it fizzled out with more questions than answers.

  My situation has now changed. As you know from the massive disposition I sent you, I'm now concentrating on using jOrgan as a relay for a couple of Edorol SD-20 sound modules. This changes the situation completely. Since the computer is relieved of all the synthesizer chores, latency is no longer an issue, so any flavour of Linux would be OK. I may re-visit this issue in the near future, but I suspect the next question is which ones have a driver for the Edirol units.

    Puppy Linux has a suitable driver but has issues with working with 3 USB keyboards plus two SD-20s. Graham is looking into that one but is very busy at present.

  Have fun,

    Roy.

  

--- On Wed, 14/4/10, Sven Meier <sven@...> wrote:

> From: Sven Meier <sven@...>
> Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu
> To: jorgan-user@...
> Date: Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 7:12
> 
> Hi Roy,
> 
> I'm using jOrgan on my 32bit Netbook and 64bit desktop PC
> (both running
> Ubuntu) and everything works fine.
> 
> What issues do you see having a need "to be managed"?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sven
> -- 
> View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/touchscreens-in-Ubuntu-tp1838971p1839340.html
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> Nabble.com.
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Hi David,

thanks for this useful information, I've added a link to the Wiki:

   http://jorgan.sourceforge.net/installation/linux

Regards

Sven
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Hi, David,

             Thanks for the link. It looks fairly complicated at first sight, but may not be once you get into it.

     I vaguely remember Graham Goode coming up with a much simpler method, which unfortunately has got lost in the mists of time. I believe it consisted essentially of modifying one of the config files in a way which first uninstalled all the audio stuff then re-installed it in a set order.

     One point from your link... I wasn't aware that Jackd can only recognise one soundcard. That may mean I HAVE to do something as complex as this to run the two Edirol units.

     In principle I like the idea of Linux, (Especially the price!) but having got the whole system running under Windows with no fuss, I'm beginning to wonder if "Life's too short"!


       Have fun,

           Roy.



--- On Thu, 15/4/10, David Gritter <dlgritter@...> wrote:

From: David Gritter <dlgritter@...>
Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu
To: jorgan-user@...
Date: Thursday, 15 April, 2010, 1:58

see
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Udev   
for a script that will assign multiple instances of the same USB device to the same alsa device numbers every time.



From: Roy Radford <roy.radford42@...>
To: jorgan-user@...
Sent: Wed, April 14, 2010 2:52:58 AM
Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu


Hi, Sven,

         Thank you for your interest. It's a long story, and may not be of interest to many!..

  The Ubuntustudio setup which I said "sort of worked" was on version 7. It was difficult to keep track of which USB keyboard was which among 3. Linux awards numbers according to the order in which things are switched on, so it becomes an issue of self-discipline really.

   I also had stability problems, possibly because the system was dual boot between Windows and Linux. I've heard since that dual boot can be a source of trouble.

   Moving on, Ubuntustudio 8 lost the real-time core, making it less suitable for organ use. 9 and 10 restored it, but somewhere along the line the offline installer became corrupted and, so far as I know, has never been corrected. It will only install if you leave out the main thing we need, the audio functions!

   I'm told you CAN install the extra
 bits offline, but chasing all the chains of dependencies is a PIA! The general feeling I get from Linux forums is that it is not really a practical proposition to install offline. This view is reinforced by lack of attention to the offline installer problem which is known to to Linux community and has persisted through at least 3 issues of Ubuntustudio.

   ...Which brings us to what is, for me, the biggest single issue. I have never managed to get Linux to connect to BT Broadband. I don't seem to be alone. One of the Linux forums had a lengthy thread on the subject, but it fizzled out with more questions than answers.

  My situation has now changed. As you know from the massive disposition I sent you, I'm now concentrating on using jOrgan as a relay for a couple of Edorol SD-20 sound modules. This changes the situation completely. Since the computer is relieved of all the synthesizer chores, latency is no longer an issue, so any
 flavour of Linux would be OK. I may re-visit this issue in the near future, but I suspect the next question is which ones have a driver for the Edirol units.

    Puppy Linux has a suitable driver but has issues with working with 3 USB keyboards plus two SD-20s. Graham is looking into that one but is very busy at present.

  Have fun,

    Roy.

   

--- On Wed, 14/4/10, Sven Meier <sven@...> wrote:

> From: Sven Meier <sven@...>
> Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu
> To: jorgan-user@...
> Date: Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 7:12
> 
> Hi Roy,
> 
>
 I'm using jOrgan on my 32bit Netbook and 64bit desktop PC
> (both running
> Ubuntu) and everything works fine.
> 
> What issues do you see having a need "to be managed"?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sven
> -- 
> View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/touchscreens-in-Ubuntu-tp1838971p1839340.html
> Sent from the jOrgan - User mailing list archive at
> Nabble.com.
> 
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Hi Roy

I'd define the Eridol Units as MIDI devices not soundcards. The
computer only communicates to them via MIDI, yes? If so, then Jack is
communicating with them via ALSA Midi and you can therefore have
multiple devices...

And while it is correct to say that Jack can only communicate with one
logical soundcard device, there are ways in Linux to 'merge' more than
one physical soundcard card device into one logical one (yes, I have
done it!).

As to Touch Screens, I just haven't had the time to fully test ours. I
have got it working in Ubuntu 9.10 using the driver from the CD, so
all I can say is, one works!

GrahamG

Hi, Graham,

                 Um... Not exactly. You CAN connect an SD-20 by a normal MIDI cable but you only get one of the two synths, 16 channels instead of 32. With the USB connection and its Windows driver installed it appears as two seperate synths, A and B. I'm now running two SD-20s under Windows. They appear in jOrgan as:

1:EDIROL SD-20 PART A, 1:EDIROL SD-20 PART B, 2:EDIROL SD-20 PART A AND 2:EDIROL SD-20 PART B.

    This allows me to use a seperate synth for each division, avoiding unification, which is not appropriate for an "electronic" style organ. It also spreads the 128 available "Voices" evenly across the instrument.

     Have fun,

          Roy.

        

--- On Thu, 15/4/10, Graham Goode <ggoode.sa@...> wrote:

From: Graham Goode <ggoode.sa@...>
Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] touchscreens in Ubuntu
To: jorgan-user@...
Date: Thursday, 15 April, 2010, 9:28

Hi Roy

I'd define the Eridol Units as MIDI devices not soundcards. The
computer only communicates to them via MIDI, yes? If so, then Jack is
communicating with them via ALSA Midi and you can therefore have
multiple devices...

And while it is correct to say that Jack can only communicate with one
logical soundcard device, there are ways in Linux to 'merge' more than
one physical soundcard card device into one logical one (yes, I have
done it!).

As to Touch Screens, I just haven't had the time to fully test ours. I
have got it working in Ubuntu 9.10 using the driver from the CD, so
all I can say is, one works!

GrahamG

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Hi Roy,

A USB to MIDI Device cable is still a MIDI device to ALSA. Can you
remember if the SD-20 showed as one or two devices under in the ALSA
screen in Qjackctl (or jOrgan) when you tried it in Puppy all those
weeks ago? It would be interesting to see the difference (as Creative
Cards only show One SoundSynth Device with Four ports as opposed to
Window's Two devices with One port).

Dang, I wish I had wings that could fly at supersonic speed... then I
could just pop in for coffee and we could take a look together ;)

GrahamG

JAn, in  the mean time this monitor has its price dropped to E 244,-.

It is absolutely working under older OS; but I do not have experience with
Linux.

The call that these monitors only work under Win7 only has to do with
multi-touch.

A pity that I sitll did not find time to visit your church in Amsterdam...I
now have a pupy dog to take care of, so that is extra time-c0nsuming. I can
tell you, that this dog loves organ-music....-:)

Greetings,

Geert

2010/4/14 Jan Hartmann <j.l.h.hartmann@...>

> I just switched to Linux for my desktop computer on my work (have been
> working on Linux servers for years). A few years back I wasn't satisfied
> with the desktop (wobbly fonts, stupid interface), but now, after a few
> weeks with standard Debian/Gnome, I don't think I will need Windows
> again. Even the sound interface worked without ado, and I didn't find
> the setup more bothersome than a Windows setup (unless you buy a
> preinstalled computer). Aren't there any preinstalled Linux computers on
> sale, optimized for sound, by the way?
>
> I'm going to try it out it at home on one of my laptops. I don't expect
> problems with sound drivers, as all of my modules are USB-driven.
> Jorgan, as a Java application, will run out of the box, of course. I
> would be very much interested, though, in hearing about touch screen
> monitors for Linux. Geert send me a link for a 300 Euro one here in
> Holland:
>
>
> http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Monitoren_Touchscreen/Iiyama/T2250MTS-B1/-1083100/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Monitoren&l2=Touchscreen
>
> but that only seems to work with Windows 7. Any pointers for a Linux
> screen would be very much appreciated.
>
> Jan
>
> On 04/14/10 11:35, Sven Meier wrote:
> > Hi Roy,
> >
> > ok, so these are no jOrgan+Linux issues but you're 'just' struggling with
> > Linux as many others (including me).
> >
> >
> >> Linux awards numbers according to the order in which things are switched
> on
> >>
> > I wonder how other linux programs are handling device names.
> >
> >
> >> stability problems, possibly because the system was dual boot between
> >>
> > Windows and Linux
> >
> > Ubuntu is rock-solid on my system and I couldn't think of a reason why
> dual
> > boot should cause any problems.
> >
> >
> >> Ubuntustudio ... real-time core
> >>
> > I never bothered about a real-time core, fluidsynth is just doing fine
> here.
> > However I'm not so picky about sound quality as many others on this list.
> >
> >
> >> connect to BT Broadband
> >>
> > Don't you have a BT hub?
> >     https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/26059
> >
> >
> >> Since the computer is relieved of all the synthesizer chores, latency is
> no
> >>
> > longer an issue,
> >
> >> so any flavour of Linux would be OK.
> >>
> > Well, maybe time to give Linux another chance?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Sven
> >
>
>
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