py2exe

cool-RR wrote:
> I am making an educational environment for learning Python, which will 
> include a shell, and I would like my users to be able to import any 
> standard library module they want. Currently, py2exe only packages the 
> modules that my program is actually using. I would like them all to be 
> available. How do I do this?
Forcing an include with "packages"?

I wonder if using py2exe for something like this is the best way to go. 
  What about a custom installer for Python instead?

Werner

Ram,

cool-RR wrote:
> Can you please be more specific? How do I actually do the "packages" 
> thing?
http://www.py2exe.org/index.cgi/MatPlotLib

See the second example on this page.
>
> Also, what's the problem with using py2exe for this?
More a gut feel of mine.

I use Boa constructor as my IDE, works great.  Besides the source 
installer there is a py2exe installer for it, works fine until you want 
to add any library or module you want to try out/teach/learn will not 
work as the generated exe does not know about this added library.

So, for your education environment, if you wanted for some reason to 
include/show something of some Python library/module you have not 
included originally you would have to rebuild it using py2exe instead of 
giving the students the instructions to just install that one library.

Werner

Ram,

Can we please keep this discussion on the list.

cool-RR wrote:
> I saw that example: Did you mean that where they list 'matplotlib' and 
> 'pytz' I should just list all the packages in the standard library?
That is what I meant, on second thought you probably have to use 
"packages" for all the standard library stuff which is a package and 
"includes" for things which are just modules.

Another solution might be to create a script and do a fake import.

if 0 != 0:
    import scriptWhichImportsStandardPythonLib stuff

This way it does not get executed but I believe py2exe will still 
include it all - but I might be wrong here.

Werner

On 30/07/2009 2:26 AM, cool-RR wrote:
> I am making an educational environment for learning Python, which will
> include a shell, and I would like my users to be able to import any
> standard library module they want. Currently, py2exe only packages the
> modules that my program is actually using. I would like them all to be
> available. How do I do this?

Maybe your are looking for a .bat file which starts Python and your 
environment?

Mark

I really would not like to make my users install Python - It's intended to
be used by children so I'd like to keep the installation as simple as
possible.


> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Mark Hammond <skippy.hammond@...:
>
>> On 30/07/2009 2:26 AM, cool-RR wrote:
>>
>>> I am making an educational environment for learning Python, which will
>>> include a shell, and I would like my users to be able to import any
>>> standard library module they want. Currently, py2exe only packages the
>>> modules that my program is actually using. I would like them all to be
>>> available. How do I do this?
>>>
>>
>> Maybe your are looking for a .bat file which starts Python and your
>> environment?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
>


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Ram Rachum

cool-RR schrieb:
> I really would not like to make my users install Python - It's intended to
> be used by children so I'd like to keep the installation as simple as
> possible.

You should look for Moveable Python, or maybe install Python
on an USB stick.

-- 
Thomas

I don't understand why all of you guys try to persuade me not to use py2exe
for this. It seems to work.

I also solved the importing-entire-stdlib problem. I used
pkgutil.iter_modules() to get the names of all the modules, then made a
little script to create a file like this:

if False:
  import re
  import email
  # ...

It works! py2exe does pack the entire stdlib. Only a 10mb difference, and
the installer takes 10 seconds more.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Thomas Heller <theller@...> wrote:

> cool-RR schrieb:
> > I really would not like to make my users install Python - It's intended
> to
> > be used by children so I'd like to keep the installation as simple as
> > possible.
>
> You should look for Moveable Python, or maybe install Python
> on an USB stick.
>
> --
> Thomas
>
>
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cool-RR schrieb:
> I don't understand why all of you guys try to persuade me not to use py2exe
> for this. It seems to work.
> 
> I also solved the importing-entire-stdlib problem. I used
> pkgutil.iter_modules() to get the names of all the modules, then made a
> little script to create a file like this:
> 
> if False:
>   import re
>   import email
>   # ...
> 
> It works! py2exe does pack the entire stdlib. Only a 10mb difference, and
> the installer takes 10 seconds more.
> 

Ah, great.

Then you should probably describe your approach in the py2exe wiki, for
other peoples benefits.

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RamRachum.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Thomas Heller <theller@...> wrote:

> cool-RR schrieb:
> > I don't understand why all of you guys try to persuade me not to use
> py2exe
> > for this. It seems to work.
> >
> > I also solved the importing-entire-stdlib problem. I used
> > pkgutil.iter_modules() to get the names of all the modules, then made a
> > little script to create a file like this:
> >
> > if False:
> >   import re
> >   import email
> >   # ...
> >
> > It works! py2exe does pack the entire stdlib. Only a 10mb difference, and
> > the installer takes 10 seconds more.
> >
>
> Ah, great.
>
> Then you should probably describe your approach in the py2exe wiki, for
> other peoples benefits.
>
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> Thanks,
> Thomas
>
>
>
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