On Wednesday 03 December 2008 02:44:43 Ian Puleston wrote:
> > Eh? It shouldn't need more than one guess; what do you think the
> > released package "Snapshot:man-1.6-mingw-beta-1" might provide?
> > (And yes, that is clearly visible, even with the new "concise"
> > style of the SF downloads page).
> Apparently not that clearly visible because I didn't spot it. I
> think the problem is that the first column is titled "Package" so
> one naturally looks down that column to try to find the package one
> is looking for. In the case of man that column just says
> "Snapshot". Even in the release column, everything else with mingw
> in the name is formatted "mingw-xxx" (mingw32-make, mingw-utils,
> mingw-catgets, etc.) so scanning down the list one tends to look to
> the right for the name and it's easy to miss this one which is
> inconsistently named "man-1.6-mingw...".
> Of course a search for "man" on the page probably would've been a
> good thing to try :-)
It certainly wouldn't have hurt.
> MinGW Runtime seems more screwed up with Package = "Previous" and
> Release = "MinGW Runtime", which seems exactly the wrong way round.
> Apart from these two the package column says what the package is.
What you see as "Previous" is *not* a recent version, nor even a
recently superseded version of "MinGW Runtime". The current version
*can* be seen, appropriately named, in column one.
In days gone by we used to subvert the intended use of SF's FRS, and
collect everything into "Packages" which were really status groups;
the real "Packages" then appeared as so called "Releases", within the
status groups named as "Candidate", "Current", etc. This used to
work quite well for us, until SF arbitrarily decided to change the
display style, and hide all but the most recent three "Releases" of
each "Package"; overnight, the majority of our actual packages
disappeared from immediate view, and no one could find anything!
At that time, we embarked on a reorganisation, but "Snapshot"
and "Previous" were relics of the former time. Anything which can be
seen in "Previous" is now ancient history, and it is pure coincidence
that an obsolete version of "MinGW Runtime" is what you saw there;
I've now removed that entire historical package collection from
"Snapshot" was a slightly different case, but nonetheless a relic of a
former time; it just happened to contain exactly three packages of
the class we now call "Technology Previews". Since, at the time of
that original reorganisation, all three of those remained visible,
they were not given a high priority for moving to their own packages,
(in the true SF sense). Since SF have again arbitrarily changed the
layout, with only one release visible per package, I've completed the
originally planned reorganisation, at least to the point of having a
separate package for each individual application.
I won't tell you what I've moved the three old "Snapshot" packages to,
as I hope they will be obvious; please let me know, if you continue
to experience difficulty.