Enlightenment

ben rockwood said:
> Can I get a new icon for the FAQ and Doc's made?

Not to start a major fight, but I think a "?" is about as good an icon
for FAQs as you can get.  =)

What do you want from it?  Are you looking to separate the "Info and
FAQs" into two distinct areas, with the "?" for Info and something else
for the FAQs?

Andrew.

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Andrew Shugg <andrew@...>                   http://www.neep.com.au/

"Just remember, Mr Fawlty, there's always someone worse off than yourself."
"Is there?  Well I'd like to meet him.  I could do with a good laugh."

> > Can I get a new icon for the FAQ and Doc's made?
> Not to start a major fight, but I think a "?" is about as good an icon
> for FAQs as you can get.  =)
> What do you want from it?  Are you looking to separate the "Info and
> FAQs" into two distinct areas, with the "?" for Info and something else
> for the FAQs?
I think he was thinking of FAQ and Info being two separate sections with
Info keeping the icon.  However at present I don't think that we need a
"info" section in the way it's been done at present (see previous posts
with ck) So for now the Info is being dropped and the page just gonna be
FAQ. In fact while it's on my mind I'll make a quick CVS change now.

I'm actally away from a Net connection for two days starting from about an
hours time, but I'm gonna wbe working on stuff while I'm away. Free time
at last - and I spent it on E; I must be mad :)

 - Hendryx

> I think he was thinking of FAQ and Info being two separate sections
> with Info keeping the icon.  However at present I don't think that we
> need a "info" section in the way it's been done at present (see
> previous posts with ck) So for now the Info is being dropped and the
> page just gonna be FAQ. In fact while it's on my mind I'll make a quick
> CVS change now.

I think I mentioned before, but the problem I've got is that the docs
for Evas, Imlib2, Imlib, etc (some which aren't even there) are currently
on the "Componants" page.  This works, but the Docs should be on a Doc page,
IMHO.  I want the page to be a one stop info center, broken down by app/lib
in a table format, so you can see everything on one page.  There can be links
to faqs and stuff on that page, but only links should be on the page.
I think a general faq is kool, but should be seperate, or linked off the
page, not actually on the page.
I think we're not pushing the developer info, and what we need to encourage
is EVAS developement (read: usage) more than simple E enthusiasm.  And with
lots of people picking up interest in EVAS I want the resources to be there
when they want 'em.

 
> I'm actally away from a Net connection for two days starting from about
> an hours time, but I'm gonna wbe working on stuff while I'm away. Free
> time at last - and I spent it on E; I must be mad :)

You have time to spend on E?  Lucky bastard.  I'm getting like an hour
here, and hour there.... I feel horrible for not getting anything really
done.  Enjoy your time!

benr.

ben rockwood wrote:
> 
> I think I mentioned before, but the problem I've got is that the docs
> for Evas, Imlib2, Imlib, etc (some which aren't even there) are currently
> on the "Componants" page.  This works, but the Docs should be on a Doc page,
> IMHO.  I want the page to be a one stop info center, broken down by app/lib
> in a table format, so you can see everything on one page.  There can be links
> to faqs and stuff on that page, but only links should be on the page.
> I think a general faq is kool, but should be seperate, or linked off the
> page, not actually on the page.
> I think we're not pushing the developer info, and what we need to encourage
> is EVAS developement (read: usage) more than simple E enthusiasm.  And with
> lots of people picking up interest in EVAS I want the resources to be there
> when they want 'em.

Would this be an appropriate icon for a documentation page? Just a quick
suggestion.

-- Christian.
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Christian Kreibich said:
> Would this be an appropriate icon for a documentation page? Just a quick
> suggestion.
> 
> -- Christian.

Looks alright to me.  Would it be too much of a departure from the style
of the other icons to have a border around the text so that it looked
more like a paper page?

Andrew.

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Andrew Shugg <andrew@...>                   http://www.neep.com.au/

"Just remember, Mr Fawlty, there's always someone worse off than yourself."
"Is there?  Well I'd like to meet him.  I could do with a good laugh."

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!  I love it!  Let's go with that.

benr.


> ben rockwood wrote:
>> 
>> I think I mentioned before, but the problem I've got is that the docs
>> for Evas, Imlib2, Imlib, etc (some which aren't even there) are
>> currently on the "Componants" page.  This works, but the Docs should
>> be on a Doc page, IMHO.  I want the page to be a one stop info center,
>> broken down by app/lib in a table format, so you can see everything on
>> one page.  There can be links to faqs and stuff on that page, but only
>> links should be on the page. I think a general faq is kool, but should
>> be seperate, or linked off the page, not actually on the page.
>> I think we're not pushing the developer info, and what we need to
>> encourage is EVAS developement (read: usage) more than simple E
>> enthusiasm.  And with lots of people picking up interest in EVAS I
>> want the resources to be there when they want 'em.
> 
> Would this be an appropriate icon for a documentation page? Just a
> quick suggestion.
> 
> -- Christian.
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Andrew Shugg wrote:
> 
> Looks alright to me.  Would it be too much of a departure from the style
> of the other icons to have a border around the text so that it looked
> more like a paper page?

I tried that but the room inside the ring is pretty limited, and I
couldn't get it to look decent. Feel free to try it, though :)

-- Christian.
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Christian Kreibich said:
> > Looks alright to me.  Would it be too much of a departure from the style
> > of the other icons to have a border around the text so that it looked
> > more like a paper page?
> 
> I tried that but the room inside the ring is pretty limited, and I
> couldn't get it to look decent.

Fair enough - that should've occurred to me I guess.  =)

> Feel free to try it, though :)

Laziness^wHonest work forbids me I am afraid.  I shall join Ben over
here in the loud "yeah it's good!" camp.

As it's now received two "yes" votes and none against let's see it on
the site.

Andrew.

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Andrew Shugg <andrew@...>                   http://www.neep.com.au/

"Just remember, Mr Fawlty, there's always someone worse off than yourself."
"Is there?  Well I'd like to meet him.  I could do with a good laugh."

> Would this be an appropriate icon for a documentation page? Just a quick
OK, I'm late in expressing my views and I'm on email catchup :)
I like it but the text in there is quite small and looks like dots on a
high-res moniter setting (IMHO), so I like it, but was thinking maybe a
little image of an open book instead?

 - Hendryx

> I think I mentioned before, but the problem I've got is that the docs
> for Evas, Imlib2, Imlib, etc (some which aren't even there) are currently
> on the "Componants" page.  This works, but the Docs should be on a Doc page,
> IMHO.  I want the page to be a one stop info center, broken down by app/lib
> in a table format, so you can see everything on one page.  There can be links
> to faqs and stuff on that page, but only links should be on the page.
> I think a general faq is kool, but should be seperate, or linked off the
> page, not actually on the page.
I agree - information like the Docs and FAQ should be easy to get to
from any page of the site. I've seen so many projects which end up with
people asking questions not becuase the infomation isn't on a site, but
becuase you have to click through to 3+ pages to get to the
documentation.

BTW I'm not planning on a general FAQ setup - in fact the reason I'm
taking so long to *truly* release FAQ in the way I want is because I
want to have it set up to auto update all 3 forms of the FAQ when new
ones are added; so right now I'm seemingly being lazy and adding FAQs
manulayy every now and then to the one FAQ page - although soon that
will be getting split into muti-pages. BTW I've probably said a load of
junk there than no one needed to know so forgive me :)

> > I'm actally away from a Net connection for two days starting from about
> > an hours time, but I'm gonna wbe working on stuff while I'm away. Free
> > time at last - and I spent it on E; I must be mad :)
> You have time to spend on E?  Lucky bastard.  I'm getting like an hour
> here, and hour there.... I feel horrible for not getting anything really
> done.  Enjoy your time!
Well - it was supposed to be a time of treehuggin and playing on my 90's
laptop, but I only had 1.5 days off in the end :( But the good side was
I was called back for a publicity meeeing, and I'll be down in London
soon doing the same kind of meeting - so who in London's up for going
out for beer one night and letting me crash at theres? :)

 - Hendryx

Hendryx wrote:
> 
> > Would this be an appropriate icon for a documentation page? Just a quick
> OK, I'm late in expressing my views and I'm on email catchup :)
> I like it but the text in there is quite small and looks like dots on a
> high-res moniter setting (IMHO), so I like it, but was thinking maybe a
> little image of an open book instead?

Well there are all the obvious ideas -- a book, reading glasses, light
bulb, etc -- but you only have about 12x12 pixels :) Draw the book
decently inside the ring and I'd love to see it one the webpage.
Another, really simplistic idea would simply be three dots in a row,
like the ones in menus that suggest "more here".  

Cheers,
-- Christian.
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