On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:09:10AM +0100, Tom Hennigan wrote:
> Youness Alaoui wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:30:56PM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
> >> On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> >>> My plan is to release 0.98 in the coming weeks.. we already
> >>> talked about that on IRC, we said that we would release 0.98
> >>> once libnice/farsight2 are released!
> >>> And just so you know, I'm releasing libnice TODAY! :)
> >> Yattaaaaaa congrats! :)
> > yeah.. well.. when I wrote that message, I didn't know
> > EBGames would call me to say that me pre-order of Little Big
> > Planet has just arrived.. I just got home now, and I'm gonna
> > be playing my sackboy!!! So the release might need to be
> > delayed until monday :p
> Hehe, be sure to announce when you've done it, so I can start doing the
> OS X binaries. I'll have to do some intensive testing as well..
Sure.. just come on IRC/MSN on monday.. anyways, I'll
announce it to the ML.
> >> [...]
> >>> I suggest we disabled spaces support since it's not that
> >>> 'good' yet (unless someone wants to work on fixing it once
> >>> and for all!)
> >> There is this option called "show space stars in CL" right? We can rename
> >> it to "Enable Spaces support (EXPERIMENTAL)", since it won't kill your pet
> >> or eat your pizza, it's just "not good enough"
> > yeah... maybe... not sure! but it does sound like a nice
> > idea. We'll go with it if we can't fix the support correctly
> > by the time we release! (but pre-add the lang key just in
> > case so it gets translated)
> If we are going with minor releases, what about a panel in preferences
> for "Experimental" stuff. With a way to enable experimental modules,
> such as spaces, or A/V when it comes round.. It could have some way of
> tracking dependancies, and if you enable something experimental, it will
> first make sure you're ready, else point you to the wiki for instructions.
I don't think that's necessary... spaces is just missing the
UI and although it works, it's fucked... the only reason I
would like to include it is because of this :
It has quite a lot of people voting for it, so we can at
least make them happy with this even though it's crap...
Other features should be finished and released in full
releases, not bugfix releases...
> >>> then we're ready to release 0.98 RC1!!! or
> >>> maybe we should just release it as 0.98, then leave the
> >>> bugfixes to 0.98.1, etc...
> >> Release it as 0.98 I'd say, otherwise we'd be stuck with a Release
> >> Candidate for ages - and RC's are not that likely to be officially
> >> packaged.
> > yep, that's what I was also thinking
> >>> We should probably change our release methods...
> >> What do you mean?
> > I mean : release often, do 0.xx.1, 0.xx.2, etc.. bugfix
> > releases (like we did with 0.97) instead of relying on RCs
> > and big changes releases...
> I agree with this, release often. Maybe an option in preferences for the
> auto-updater to only notify on major releases (0.xx) rather than minor
> (0.xx.x) releases.
no need for an option for this.. if we release a 0.xx.x then
they would need their bugfixes... let them update! If they
don't want to, let them ignore the message.. their problem!
> >> BTW, may I remind you once more, GetProfile and UpdateProfile get 403'd
> >> when using a socks proxy, and it's mysterious since their calls are
> >> identical to all other calls. I think it's something we should fix for
> >> 0.98 , but I've already given up on trying to fix that, I've looked at the
> >> code a billion times and I can't find out what on earth is wrong. Maybe we
> >> should wireshark WLM?
> > yes, well.. ospy-ing rather than wiresharking... but yes,
> > must be done! and yes, it should be fixed... and when I said
> > "release 0.98", I meant, release it once we finish fixing
> > the critical issues...
> > I should probably start a '0.98 TODO' mailing list thread
> > (like we did with the older versions).. or someone else
> > start it up, 'cause I've got my sackboy to play with :p
> There are also some issues with the HTTP method if i recall.. Logging in
> works correctly, but starting a chat doesn't work as expected.. I've got
> protocol logs and status logs for this, but like vivia, I can't work out
> in code whats going on..
iirc, it's only for some @domain.com mails, and there's a
patch for it already on the forums.. it's in the forums
TODO, it should just be reviewed/merged (I reviewed it, it's
ok, but I wanted to do it 'better'.. although I failed and
abandoned the idea.. I guess we can just merge it as is).
> Another one is SOCKS5 support. If you enable socks but the socks server
> isn't running (eg I set up an ssh tunnel and did my pass wrong and
> didn't notice) when opening aMSN the application fails to launch with an
> error dumped to console.
fixed in the last couple of days!
> > We should read the forums TODO on the wiki and see which
> > ones "must be" fixed for 0.98.. then start the "fix
> > everything asap to release" mode to get it done and release.
> Sounds good to me, I'll start this process tomorrow or Monday, and do
> what I can!
> > KaKaRoTo
> >> Vivia