Steve McMahon wrote:
> Hi Dylan,
>
> If the Unified Installer can be used to set up the installation, that
> would be very much preferable to promulgating yet another Linux install
> recipe.
>
> If there are things that the Unified Installer should do to make a VPS
> install work, please file a ticket, and we'll get it improved.
Um, I don't really get the idea behind the unified installer.
Doesn't
paster create -t buildout; python bootstrap.py; bin/buildout
do the same job?
I can the buildout installer being useful on windows since zope isn't
easy to compile but thats not the same as the unified installer is it?
Actually to take this up one level, my actual aims with this tutorial
was that I wanted to make getting your own basic plone site as easy as
possible. but a site that developers want. none of this shared zope
hosting, thats an experiment that has failed IMO. With cheap VPS hosting
htere is no need for any kind of dedicated zope hosters* anymore.
but what remains is the intimdation factor of linux admin. something I
faced. now I learnt it, its really not that bad but I've been
thinking... we can do even better than my tutorial.
Why not one command deployment from your dev machine without any logging
into your host at all.
What if my tutorial became $20 in 20sec by changing the steps to these.
1. Download unified installer to windows or unix or whatever. run it.
2. edit deployment recipe with host and user name.
3. hit deploy. (or run command)
So 3 internally would be a command to ssh in, upload the buildout, run
it and then start the server (plus squid or whatever else)
This is what google app engine deployment is like. I can't see a
technical reason why we can't do the same.
oh and the next steps are
4. create your own code/theme/extra eggs in buildout
4. build locally and test
5. hit deploy again and it uploads, restarts the server
So from an even higher up perspective, what I'm saying is that people
who want to use plone realistically are always doing to have both a dev
environment and a server environment. Our installation process should
take that into account instead of having to do everything twice and
workout for ourselves how to get code from a to b.
And I specifically choose windows dev and linux hosting for the reason
that that could be fairly common.
*I was referring to the hosting company rather than the host itself
since that just an actual box. Isn't hoster a known shortening of
hosting provider or hosting company? I'm guessing not.
> Also, when you say "265MB will be fine for most purposes...," it would
> be good to elaborate on what you mean by "most purposes." Give folks
> some idea what's possible in terms of site size / traffic within that
> memory limitation.
true
> Thanks for the work! Steve
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Dylan Jay
> <gmane@...
> <mailto:gmane@...>> wrote:
>
> Veda Williams wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Plone requires a special hosting setup, as it runs on Zope, a fairly
> > heavyweight back end. If you're looking for hosting companies,
> please visit
> > plone.net <http://plone.net>.
>
> I don't think thats true these days. I've just submitted my tutorial of
> how to get plone hosted for $20 in 20min
>
> http://plone.org/documentation/tutorial/20-20-plone-site
>
> but I think it still needs some work.
>
> If others think its clear enough I can publish it.
> Who is the editor for this area?
>
>
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