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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:45:10 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:

>Yes, this should be localized.  This is work requested by Bulia of
>JonCruz, which is not yet finished, but I encouraged Jon to get the
>string changes committed and finalized first, prior to string freeze, in
>order to give the extra time for getting them localized.

Thanks Bryce! Now all is clear and work can continue :)

Regards

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On Feb 20, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Bryce Harrington wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:04:51PM +0100, Aleksandar Uro??evi?? wrote:
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>> Hello,
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>> After updating to SVN 17417 I noticed a bunch of new strings about  
>> docking
>> ability. How to access this to test localisation? Dockable dialogs  
>> (fill
>> and stroke, align and distribute, tansformations, etc) does not  
>> use this
>> new strings.
>>
>> To localise or not to localise a new 'dock' stuff?
>
> Yes, this should be localized.  This is work requested by Bulia of
> JonCruz, which is not yet finished, but I encouraged Jon to get the
> string changes committed and finalized first, prior to string  
> freeze, in
> order to give the extra time for getting them localized.

Just to be clear about which strings are which....

The ones I added were four strings in panel.cpp that show up in the  
popup menu for swatch panels ("Shape", "Tall", "Square" and "Wide").  
"Shape" refers to the desired shape for the swatches. Currently the  
behavior had been to try to be square, but to allow for user choice  
in the bottom panel, etc. a setting on the "Tall" range would make  
the swatch taller than it is wide.

> The ones I added were four strings in panel.cpp that show up in the popup
> menu for swatch panels ("Shape", "Tall", "Square" and "Wide"). "Shape"
> refers to the desired shape for the swatches. Currently the behavior had
> been to try to be square, but to allow for user choice in the bottom panel,
> etc. a setting on the "Tall" range would make the swatch taller than it is
> wide.

Jon,

How do you plan the behaviour if there palette is really small (few
colours). It seems that at the moment the colours have to occupy the
entire visible space of the control so if there are very few (and
constrained to squares) short palettes always tend to be big. Would it
be good to have each colour a box of fixed dimensions?

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On Feb 21, 2008, at 1:17 AM, Marcin Floryan wrote:

> How do you plan the behaviour if there palette is really small (few
> colours). It seems that at the moment the colours have to occupy the
> entire visible space of the control so if there are very few (and
> constrained to squares) short palettes always tend to be big. Would it
> be good to have each colour a box of fixed dimensions?

That's not quite how things work. We say "please Mr. GTK Layout, give  
this widget a 4x4 square space".

Unfortunately now that the horizontal scrollbar is "when needed", GTK  
says "phooey on you, I need at least 40 pixels height, so deal with it"

One workaround to keep fixed size swatches would be to fill the rest  
of the area with grey. The problem is that you tend to have a lot of  
wasted space. So when GTK+ says "You get 640x40, and I don't care  
that you wanted 32x4", then we go ahead and use that space so it is  
not just wasted.

On 21/02/2008, Jon A. Cruz <jon@...> wrote:

Jon,

Thanks for the info. I kind of supposed this could be the case.

> One workaround to keep fixed size swatches would be to fill the rest of the
> area with grey. The problem is that you tend to have a lot of wasted space.
> So when GTK+ says "You get 640x40, and I don't care that you wanted 32x4",
> then we go ahead and use that space so it is not just wasted.

This sounds like a fair approach. Should we then give a hint to the
users and make the swatch size a "proffered size" and maybe group
those in a sub-menu just like the new "Shapes"?

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On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Jon A. Cruz wrote:

> That's not quite how things work. We say "please Mr. GTK Layout, give this
> widget a 4x4 square space".

This is most likely offtopic, but are you planning any changes to the
way swatches dialog (Ctrl+Shift+W)looks? Currently it always displays
horizontal scrollbar (while it shouldn't) and swatches are always
rectangular, not square, and they do not reflow when width is changed.

Alexandre