Hum sorry, I was too happy to transfer this mail that I made an error....
Really sorry :)
And thank you really much for your work and to work on the future of
egroupware.
Gauthier
2007/11/29, Gauthier DOUCHET <gauthier.douchet@...>:
>
> Tiens pour info sur le futur de egroupware
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Cornelius Weiss <c.weiss@... >
> Date: 29 nov. 2007 16:16
> Subject: [eGroupWare-users] Status Upgrade Of The eGroupWare 2.0 Effort
> To: "development of eGroupWare, for active developers" <egroupware-devel=
opers@...>,
> discussions and questions from users and for users of eGroupWare <
> egroupware-users@...>
>
> After working two months on eGroupWare 2.0 it's time to give you a
> little update on the progress we have made so far.
>
> First of all, we are very thankful for the enormous amount of positive
> feedback we got for our effort to increase usability and stability of
> eGroupWare.
>
> eGroupWare 2.0 Project Page
> We are glad to announce the immediate availability of a site dedicated
> to the eGroupWare 2.0 effort:
>
> http://www.egroupware20.org .
>
> This will be the main platform for information and discussions about
> eGroupWare 2.0. We documented quite a lot in the 'learn' section so far,
> and now we can't wait that the forum gets filled with life. We hope you
> enjoy this platform as much as we do.
>
>
> Current State
> Generally we are amazed by the speed the project developed. We already
> passed milestone 1 which we hoped to reach by the end of this year.
>
> With the power of the Zend framework it was quite easy to implement the
> database back-end, support for filters and validation of user data. With
> the help of Ext-JS it's also quite easy to build desktop like
> applications. So we are glad to say that we have all ingredients to
> build a very responsive groupware with an outstanding user-experience.
>
> Great ascent was made in the user-interface. We now have all concepts
> ready to create desktop class applications. If you visit the demo please
> notice the contextual toolbars with enabled and disabled actions, try
> your right mouse-button and be astonished by the speed of paging and
> searching.
> Many thanks to the Ext-JS team who provided an excellent foundation and
> helped out in our process of learning to develop desktop-class
> applications.
> And guess what? It works in FF, Konqueror, Safari, Opera and IE
>
> A great step forward is the uncoupling of access-control-rights from the
> ownership of records we made. With this it's possible to create shared
> folders (e.g. a shared addressbook) and assign access-rights to the
> folder, which are valid for each containing item independent from the
> rights of a certain creator. We are quite optimistic that administrators
> will love this new degree of freedom when modeling a groupware solution.
>
> For data safety we introduced a simple concurrency management, which
> rejects saving of records which got changed during the edit process. The
> user is asked to review his changes before he attempts to save them.
> This is a great advance compared to the current 1.4 approach where the
> last one who saves just 'wins'.
>
> As a final note in this section it's worth to explain the agile approach
> we use for developing. Agile programming means that the software makes
> an evolution and has frequent cycles of re-factoring. We evaluate our
> main concepts with the help of 3 applications. First the addressbook as
> an easy list application. Secondly a calendar which is mainly based on
> object composition, and thirdly with a CRM application which relies on
> linking of data. In the next weeks we will add a fourth app to this
> portfolio, the tasks, to cover all traditional groupware fields.
> However, we will wait with more applications until the evolution of
> these applications leads to major and well tested main concepts.
>
>
> What's Next
> We do not only want to create a more usable groupware, we also want to
> make eGroupWare more safe and stable. Therefore along with normal day to
> day developing for Milestone 2 and 3 we will start with unit-testing and
> history logging which was originally considered after Milestone 3.
>
> We think that it is a precondition to have a fully functional history
> logging and a more advanced concurrency management, before starting to
> integrate interfaces like CalDav and SyncML. In our projects the absence
> of this core features in egw1.x has turned out to be one of the major
> pitfalls and showstoppers. Currently each record is as it is, and nobody
> has an idea how it came to this point which is more than unsatisfactory
> especially in large installations.
>
>
> Database Brand Compatibility
> eGroupWare uses PDO as database adapter and Zend_DB as database
> abstraction layer. Thus in principle it's database independent when only
> using simple database actions.
>
> However, for a fully featured and performant groupware it's not adequate
> only to use trivial sql statements. In the current egw1.x code we made
> enormous efforts to support much database brands. This makes the code
> complicated on the one hand, and on the other hand we abandon many great
> features of the specific database vendors. But most sadly we have to sum
> up honestly, despite these efforts and restrictions, egw1.x only runs
> adequate and fully featured with the mysql back-end.
>
> So what lesson do we learn from that for egw2? eGroupWare2.0 is designed
> to support multiple back-ends. For accounts this is sql and ldap. For
> the addressbook this is sql, ldap and different web-services. For the
> calendar its sql and ical-files.
> This being said, it's clear that we see different sql database brands
> also as different back-ends. We at Metaways concentrate on the mysql
> back-end, as we are a service provider for large scale mysql databases.
> We have much mysql knowledge in-house and work closely together with
> mysql consultants. Therefor we can write highly optimized and performant
> mysql code. The back-end concept gives us the freedom to include support
> for other brands when we or others need it. Again these back-ends than
> could be highly optimized and performant.
>
>
> Versioning Strategy
> While it's confusing for users that a version 2.0 exists along the
> current 1.x versions we call the effort itself eGroupWare 2.0 and start
> with version 0.x. So it should be clear that eGroupWare and eGroupware
> 2.0 are two different products of the same project.
>
> However the eGroupWare community has not yet officially decided if the
> outcome of the eGroupWare 2.0 effort really becomes the logic
> replacement for the current egw1.x code-line as a long-term goal.
>
> We plan to request a vote on this topic in the first quarter of 2008. As
> we had a lot of positive feedback from the developers community so far,
> it's likely that our plans come true to integrate our effort officially
> into the project.
>
> So far for the update, thank you all for the enormous interest in
> eGroupWare 2.0. Please understand that we can't answer any single mail
> and therefore send updates like this from time to time.
> Your eGroupWare 2.0 team!
>
>
> What Is eGroupWare2.0?
> eGroupWare 2.0 is an effort to increase usability and stability of
> eGroupWare, one of the leading open-source groupware projects.
>
> By working on this effort it became clear, that the best strategy for
> improving eGroupWare would be a rewrite in a separate code-base like KDE
> 4 and Typo3 did before.
>
> The eGroupWare 2.0 effort was started by 2 of the 3 most active
> eGroupWare developers which currently work full-time on the project. All
> this efforts are currently fully backed by Metaways GmbH which pays
> these developers.
>
> Contact
> Lars Kneschke
> CTO OfficeSpot.Net
> Metaways Infosystems GmbH
> Pickhuben 2-4, D-20457 Hamburg
> E-Mail: mailto: l.kneschke@...
> Web: http://www.metaways.de
> Tel: +49 (0)40 317031-21
> Fax: +49 (0)40 317031-921
>
> Metaways
> Metaways GmbH is an internet service company which backs large scale
> sites in a fail-safe server environment. One of these sites is
> OfficeSpot.Net, which provides the current stable version of eGroupWare
> as an ASP solution.
> At Metaways more than 20 experienced PHP developers create large scale
> web-service solutions for international customers, focused on Typo3,
> ZendFramework and eGroupWare in their technical realizations.
>
> Metaways Infosystems GmbH - Sitz: D-22967 Tremsb=FCttel
> Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Ahrensburg HRB 4508
> Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrung: Hermann Thaele, L=FCder-H.Thaele
>
> --
> Cornelius Wei=DF
> Metaways Infosystems GmbH
> Pickhuben 2-4, D-20457 Hamburg
>
> eGroupWare Support: http://www.egroupware-support.net
> OfficeSpot.Net Collaboration Server: http://cs.officespot.net
>
> E-Mail: mailto:c.weiss@...
> Web: http://www.metaways.de
> Tel: +49 (0)40 317031-45
> Fax: +49 (0)40 317031-945
>
> Metaways Infosystems GmbH - Sitz: D-22967 Tremsb=FCttel
> Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Ahrensburg HRB 4508
> Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrung: Hermann Thaele, L=FCder-H.Thaele
>
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