On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:18:18 +0200 Michel BRIAND <michelbriand@...> babbled:
> in my new company, with a friend of mine, we have started a
> "Linux Master Server" project: ie with FAI we install all new computers
> automaticaly. We have chosen Debian Etch as a starting point but with a
> few improvements. E17 is one of the most important ones.
> We ran into a few troubles with Entrance:
> The PIDFILE defined in /etc/init.d/entrance does not match the real one
> created by entranced. In the source tree I can see that it has been
> fixed. Is it the case in the trunk ? Is your .deb up to date ?
> Entrance does not run the Debian Xsession scheme. I've tried to change
> the /etc/entrance/Xsession file but to no avail. Does anyone have a
> solution or even a clue ?
> Enlightenment has its main menu broken.
> The "Applications" dialog is obviously broken (graphicaly):
> the left part of it is stucker in a rectangle in the left top
> corner, unusable
this is being broken and fixed up right now. it's now working again - but
results may vary from distribution to distribution. i suspect its broken on
debian due to the way debian splits up the applicatiosn menu config and has no
"system default" one. (but has one for kde and one for gnome etc...)
> In this dialog the "regenerate menus" button, which did not
> worked in the 12/03 .deb update, is no more visible. I can't say
> if it works now ;) 'cause I can't click on it.
> Is there a command line utility to create menus ?
now it's not relevant. the applications config dialog is broken atm.
> I can drag a application from the "applications" dialog to the
> Ibar : it works. But I would make a comment: the widget that is
> under the mouse is a big rectangle taken from the app dialog
> list, and it is not easy to drop it in the Ibar at the point
> one's want to... since the mouse pointer is no more visible...
same as above.
> Enlightenment has still a problem with svg: going through the icon theme
> dialog, one would just dig into an svg directory and press the apply
> Bug reproducable since six months or so.
this is a librsvg bug. you'd be amazed how buggy it is.
> The mixer applet (or module) is not usable: it simply does not work. It
> starts and show a nice ruler but:
> Each time the applet receive a mouse button it opens and
> activate the mute check box: that way you have always the mute
> The ruler does not make the sound volume to change !??
> We would like to discuss about the media mounting/unmounting... It
> would be nice to have a media menu in E to help new users to use
> linux... And E17 deserve a better design than kde for this... Is there
> anyone that wants to start a design discussion about this ?
e17 has this already. it's filemanager handles dbus hal events, if you plug in
removable media and hal finds it - e17 puts an icon in favorites - opening the
folder in e's fm2 will auto-mount it and unmount when all windows are closed
that use it. it's not perfect - but proof of concept works. the infrastructure
is there - but needs work - fm2 needs a lot of work and i will get to it - if i
can tame my email monster :)
> ** But the picture is not so bad, I would say that E17 is in a good
> shape and that it can be used by non-geek users (corporate users).
> 80% of functions are working well, and the window manager does
> its job perfectly. **
no - not there yet. it needs work - the problem is basically having the people
who know the code well have the time to spend. the base libs are very solid now
- it's the wm itself that needs work - filemanager needs completion so people
can have their "icons on the desktop". i recently did a retake of the fm
backend to remove "slow fs" problems. this broke a few things and needs work in
fm2 to bring it even back up to where it was before. BUT it will also be able
to simplify some things. this means file selectors, wallpaper browsers and more
can be much more solid - and people can find and open their files, manage them
simply without another extra fm (they can always use one anyway - e needs the
fm for its own dialogs, etc. anyway).
> I would like to thanks everyone that has worked hard in the last year
> to make this real :) !!!!
> Best regards,
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