Gambas

I asked this question a long time ago, but at that time it was impossible to
do. Let me ask again:

How do I distribute items that are grouped together? For example, if
I select four buttons and align them in a row, how do I get them to be
evenly spaced horizontally and vertically?

I am using gambas 1.0.15.

Thanks,

L

Am Dienstag, den 30.01.2007, 12:53 -0500 schrieb Laurent Duperval:
> I asked this question a long time ago, but at that time it was impossible to
> do. Let me ask again:
> 
> How do I distribute items that are grouped together? For example, if
> I select four buttons and align them in a row, how do I get them to be
> evenly spaced horizontally and vertically?
> 
> I am using gambas 1.0.15.
> 
> Thanks,
Salut Laurent,

hold the Ctrl-Key down and mark with the mouse the buttons.
Then (the Ctrl-Key is still down) open the context-menu (right mouse
button) there you will found the needed.

Amicalment
Charlie

I would like to know if Benoit is thinking of allowing wigets
to be 'locked' (on a per-form basis) so that they cannot be accidentally moved.
Don't hit me if I were to mention that was available on VB5 and
was very handy..especially with many wigets on screen.

Fernando


---------- Original Message -----------
From: Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl@...>
To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user@...>
Sent: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:22:39 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Aligning widgets

> Am Dienstag, den 30.01.2007, 12:53 -0500 schrieb Laurent Duperval:
> > I asked this question a long time ago, but at that time it was impossible to
> > do. Let me ask again:
> > 
> > How do I distribute items that are grouped together? For example, if
> > I select four buttons and align them in a row, how do I get them to be
> > evenly spaced horizontally and vertically?
> > 
> > I am using gambas 1.0.15.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> Salut Laurent,
> 
> hold the Ctrl-Key down and mark with the mouse the buttons.
> Then (the Ctrl-Key is still down) open the context-menu (right mouse
> button) there you will found the needed.
> 
> Amicalment
> Charlie
> 
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On 1/30/07, Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl@...> wrote:
>
>
> Salut Laurent,



Salut Charlie,


hold the Ctrl-Key down and mark with the mouse the buttons.
> Then (the Ctrl-Key is still down) open the context-menu (right mouse
> button) there you will found the needed.



Not quite. I tried this but it doesn't quite  work as I want. Or else, I
don't know how to do it correctly. For example, try this:

Create 12 buttons. Now set them up in three rows and four columns. All
buttons need to have the same height, and the same spacing between the
buttons. Unless I do manual calculations and set the X/Y positions manually,
I don't see how to do this.

What I would like to do is to select them and tell Gambas to arrange them
automatically in an orderly fashion.

WIth other toolkits, you can create a layout manager that manages how
widgets are placed on screen. Instead of giving each witget a position on
the form, you put it in the grid manager and give the manager placement
rules, and it figures out how to place the widgets correctly.

Think of an HTML table: you create the table layout, tell the table how to
manage column widths and lengths and it does it automatically as you add
data to it.

L

Amicalment
> Charlie
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nando ha scritto:
> I would like to know if Benoit is thinking of allowing wigets
> to be 'locked' (on a per-form basis) so that they cannot be accidentally moved.
> Don't hit me if I were to mention that was available on VB5 and
> was very handy..especially with many wigets on screen.
> 
> Fernando
> 

I would like it too...
I think it could be very useful, i.e., when you put a widget non aligned
with the grid but in different coordinates: sometime, when you select
it, the IDE realignes it at the grid....

-- 
Ciao.
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On Thursday 01 February 2007 10:33, Leonardo Miliani wrote:
> nando ha scritto:
> > I would like to know if Benoit is thinking of allowing wigets
> > to be 'locked' (on a per-form basis) so that they cannot be accidentally
> > moved. Don't hit me if I were to mention that was available on VB5 and
> > was very handy..especially with many wigets on screen.
> >
> > Fernando
>
> I would like it too...
> I think it could be very useful, i.e., when you put a widget non aligned
> with the grid but in different coordinates: sometime, when you select
> it, the IDE realignes it at the grid....

You have the lock functionality in the SVN trunk now!

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini

Hi there,

Thanks for the help, especially from Jonathan Astolfi, and the online 
compile-howto... now Gambas2 is running on my Edgy.

I have again few more questions :)

1) I heard that gambas2 now support GTK, I would like to let *the IDE 
itself to use GTK* so that it fit with my gnome theme, is that possible?

2) in the readme, it says make install will install to /opt/gambas, but 
in fact it is spreaded into the system (somewhere I don't know), 'which 
gambas2' will tell me under /usr/local/bin. can I do a *make uninstall*, 
and *make install --prefix=/opt/gambas* to rectify this problem?

3) I found a few cosmetic "bugs" in the IDE (e.g., partially shown 
buttons etc), shall I report to the mailing list? Or the developers are 
now focusing on more important things and will not deal with these at 
the moment?

Thanks a lot!
Shannon

2007/2/2, Shannon Fang <shannon@...>:
>
> Hi there,
>
> Thanks for the help, especially from Jonathan Astolfi, and the online
> compile-howto... now Gambas2 is running on my Edgy.
>
> I have again few more questions :)
>
> 1) I heard that gambas2 now support GTK, I would like to let *the IDE
> itself to use GTK* so that it fit with my gnome theme, is that possible?



Not yet. The gtk component doesn't support all the events, methods and
properties the qt component does. His development is not so complete, so yo=
u
can not use it to  build the IDE. I hope it will be possible in the medium
term.


2) in the readme, it says make install will install to /opt/gambas, but
> in fact it is spreaded into the system (somewhere I don't know), 'which
> gambas2' will tell me under /usr/local/bin. can I do a *make uninstall*,
> and *make install --prefix=3D/opt/gambas* to rectify this problem?




Yes



3) I found a few cosmetic "bugs" in the IDE (e.g., partially shown
> buttons etc), shall I report to the mailing list? Or the developers are
> now focusing on more important things and will not deal with these at
> the moment?



I suspect the "partially shown buttons" are not really bugs. When using the
gtk component, or the Gnome view for the IDE, the stock icons are defined
for the last gtk version. If you are using a previous version you will miss
some of those icons. That's why in the gambas2 Debian packages I apply a
patch [1] to the gtk stock icons to avoid that behaviour with the current
gtk version [1] in Debian Sid/Etch. If you are also using gtk < 2.10 you
should apply some Debian patches to make the cosmetic behave according to
the 2.10 version. That's part of the work of packaging and application to
the specific Distribution issues, and maybe in the future somebody will tak=
e
those packages from Debian to Ubuntu as they did with the stable gambas
version.

Regards.
Jos=E9 L.


[2]
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/gambas2/gambas2_1.9.46-1/=
changelog
[2] http://packages.debian.org/testing/source/gtk+2.0

Thank you Benoit.
Eventhough I don't know what a SVN trunk is, I'll go look for it.
:)


---------- Original Message -----------
From: Benoit Minisini <gambas@...>
To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user@...>
Sent: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 19:37:58 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Aligning widgets

> On Thursday 01 February 2007 10:33, Leonardo Miliani wrote:
> > nando ha scritto:
> > > I would like to know if Benoit is thinking of allowing wigets
> > > to be 'locked' (on a per-form basis) so that they cannot be accidentally
> > > moved. Don't hit me if I were to mention that was available on VB5 and
> > > was very handy..especially with many wigets on screen.
> > >
> > > Fernando
> >
> > I would like it too...
> > I think it could be very useful, i.e., when you put a widget non aligned
> > with the grid but in different coordinates: sometime, when you select
> > it, the IDE realignes it at the grid....
> 
> You have the lock functionality in the SVN trunk now!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Benoit Minisini
> 
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Am Donnerstag, den 01.02.2007, 10:33 +0100 schrieb Leonardo Miliani:
> nando ha scritto:
> > I would like to know if Benoit is thinking of allowing wigets
> > to be 'locked' (on a per-form basis) so that they cannot be accidentally moved.
> > Don't hit me if I were to mention that was available on VB5 and
> > was very handy..especially with many wigets on screen.
> > 
> > Fernando
> > 
> 
> I would like it too...
> I think it could be very useful, i.e., when you put a widget non aligned
> with the grid but in different coordinates: sometime, when you select
> it, the IDE realignes it at the grid....
> 
Salut,

I'v a question to all those who like to have locked-forms.

I aske that, to know what should be locked if a form is locked, and what
should be possible to do on a locked form.

Today (if you have the svn-trunk) you can mark controles and copy them
to the clipboard, or work on the forms class.

I think it is usefull, that locking a form means:

1. NO possibillity to move components with the mouse.
2. NO resize of the form.
but
3. changing properties of a control only in the property-window
4. or alignments with multible controls
5. or 'same' actions with multible controls
6. save these changes
AND
7. remember whether the form was set to locked.

-- 
Amicalment
Charlie

On Tuesday 30 January 2007 22:11, Laurent Duperval wrote:
> On 1/30/07, Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl@...> wrote:
> > Salut Laurent,
>
> Salut Charlie,
>
>
> hold the Ctrl-Key down and mark with the mouse the buttons.
>
> > Then (the Ctrl-Key is still down) open the context-menu (right mouse
> > button) there you will found the needed.
>
> Not quite. I tried this but it doesn't quite  work as I want. Or else, I
> don't know how to do it correctly. For example, try this:
>
> Create 12 buttons. Now set them up in three rows and four columns. All
> buttons need to have the same height, and the same spacing between the
> buttons. Unless I do manual calculations and set the X/Y positions
> manually, I don't see how to do this.
>
> What I would like to do is to select them and tell Gambas to arrange them
> automatically in an orderly fashion.
>
> WIth other toolkits, you can create a layout manager that manages how
> widgets are placed on screen. Instead of giving each witget a position on
> the form, you put it in the grid manager and give the manager placement
> rules, and it figures out how to place the widgets correctly.
>
> Think of an HTML table: you create the table layout, tell the table how to
> manage column widths and lengths and it does it automatically as you add
> data to it.
>
> L
>
> Amicalment
>

There is no grid arrangement in Gambas, but you can do that by putting many 
HBox control in a VBox.

For example, you can create four HBox containers, put three buttons in each of 
them, and put these four HBox containers in one VBox.

Regards,

-- 
Benoit Minisini

Am Montag, den 05.02.2007, 20:09 +0100 schrieb Benoit Minisini:
> On Tuesday 30 January 2007 22:11, Laurent Duperval wrote:
> > On 1/30/07, Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl@...> wrote:
> > > Salut Laurent,
> >
> > Salut Charlie,
> >
> >
> > hold the Ctrl-Key down and mark with the mouse the buttons.
> >
> > > Then (the Ctrl-Key is still down) open the context-menu (right mouse
> > > button) there you will found the needed.
> >
> > Not quite. I tried this but it doesn't quite  work as I want. Or else, I
> > don't know how to do it correctly. For example, try this:
> >
> > Create 12 buttons. Now set them up in three rows and four columns. All
> > buttons need to have the same height, and the same spacing between the
> > buttons. Unless I do manual calculations and set the X/Y positions
> > manually, I don't see how to do this.
> >
> > What I would like to do is to select them and tell Gambas to arrange them
> > automatically in an orderly fashion.
> >
> > WIth other toolkits, you can create a layout manager that manages how
> > widgets are placed on screen. Instead of giving each witget a position on
> > the form, you put it in the grid manager and give the manager placement
> > rules, and it figures out how to place the widgets correctly.
> >
> > Think of an HTML table: you create the table layout, tell the table how to
> > manage column widths and lengths and it does it automatically as you add
> > data to it.
> >
> > L
> >
> > Amicalment
> >
> 
> There is no grid arrangement in Gambas, but you can do that by putting many 
> HBox control in a VBox.
> 
> For example, you can create four HBox containers, put three buttons in each of 
> them, and put these four HBox containers in one VBox.
> 
> Regards,
> 
Salut,

he is talking about, what exists in MS-VB, you can mark some (more then
2) controls and say 'same space between each control' and after you have
'increase space' and 'decrease space' 
-- 
Amicalment
Charlie

I have done this by selecting the wigets I want to
have a common value and in the Property page
set the same value (once) for all by typing it in.
-Fernando


---------- Original Message -----------
From: Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl@...>
To: mailing list for gambas users <gambas-user@...>
Sent: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:55:17 +0100
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Aligning widgets

> Am Montag, den 05.02.2007, 20:09 +0100 schrieb Benoit Minisini:
> > On Tuesday 30 January 2007 22:11, Laurent Duperval wrote:
> > > On 1/30/07, Charlie Reinl <Karl.Reinl@...> wrote:
> > > > Salut Laurent,
> > >
> > > Salut Charlie,
> > >
> > >
> > > hold the Ctrl-Key down and mark with the mouse the buttons.
> > >
> > > > Then (the Ctrl-Key is still down) open the context-menu (right mouse
> > > > button) there you will found the needed.
> > >
> > > Not quite. I tried this but it doesn't quite  work as I want. Or else, I
> > > don't know how to do it correctly. For example, try this:
> > >
> > > Create 12 buttons. Now set them up in three rows and four columns. All
> > > buttons need to have the same height, and the same spacing between the
> > > buttons. Unless I do manual calculations and set the X/Y positions
> > > manually, I don't see how to do this.
> > >
> > > What I would like to do is to select them and tell Gambas to arrange them
> > > automatically in an orderly fashion.
> > >
> > > WIth other toolkits, you can create a layout manager that manages how
> > > widgets are placed on screen. Instead of giving each witget a position on
> > > the form, you put it in the grid manager and give the manager placement
> > > rules, and it figures out how to place the widgets correctly.
> > >
> > > Think of an HTML table: you create the table layout, tell the table how to
> > > manage column widths and lengths and it does it automatically as you add
> > > data to it.
> > >
> > > L
> > >
> > > Amicalment
> > >
> > 
> > There is no grid arrangement in Gambas, but you can do that by putting many 
> > HBox control in a VBox.
> > 
> > For example, you can create four HBox containers, put three buttons in each of 
> > them, and put these four HBox containers in one VBox.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> Salut,
> 
> he is talking about, what exists in MS-VB, you can mark some (more then
> 2) controls and say 'same space between each control' and after you have
> 'increase space' and 'decrease space' 
> -- 
> Amicalment
> Charlie
> 
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