Tux Paint

Hi,

Sun, 2 Oct 2005 23:28:25 -0700 tarihinde Bill Kendrick <nbs@...>
yazdi:

> Any changes made in CVS are pulled and placed on my FTP site, and the
> translation status for each language is updated here:
>   http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/help/po/
Are you going to update/use the GNU translation project status page? (I
had written about this before)

http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/translation/registry.cgi?domain=tuxpaint

If not, my GNU-Turkish project leader wants to remove Tuxpaint from the
GNU-TR translation project since it's not actively maintained.

I would of course continue to translate the Tuxpaint Turkish language
files nevertheless.

                   Doruk

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On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 11:06:58AM +0300, Doruk Fisek wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Sun, 2 Oct 2005 23:28:25 -0700 tarihinde Bill Kendrick <nbs@...>
> yazdi:
> 
> > Any changes made in CVS are pulled and placed on my FTP site, and the
> > translation status for each language is updated here:
> >   http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/help/po/
> Are you going to update/use the GNU translation project status page? (I
> had written about this before)

You know, for a month or so now, I've had an email in my 'postponed' box
that I've been meaning to finish and sent to the Translation Project.
I was hoping they'd be able to somehow pull PO files from our CVS or FTP
on a regular basis.


> http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/translation/registry.cgi?domain=tuxpaint
> 
> If not, my GNU-Turkish project leader wants to remove Tuxpaint from the
> GNU-TR translation project since it's not actively maintained.
> 
> I would of course continue to translate the Tuxpaint Turkish language
> files nevertheless.

Is there an easy way of getting our updated PO files uploaded to the TP?
I guess the main problem is that they expect a 'version number', so I'd
need to come up with, for example, "0.9.15rc1" or something, _prior_ to the
0.9.15 release, if I wanted the CVS changes translated beforehand. :^/

-bill!

Bill, in what character set (utf-8, iso-xxxx, etc.) are the .po files in...?
I see strange characters in place of " ... and others and I can't make it look 
good.
help.
(I've just downloaded them from your ftp)

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On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 04:42:14PM -0300, Gabriel Gazz=E1n wrote:
> Bill, in what character set (utf-8, iso-xxxx, etc.) are the .po files i=
n...?
> I see strange characters in place of " ... and others and I can't make =
it look=20
> good.
> help.
> (I've just downloaded them from your ftp)

They are in UTF-8.  I suppose you are seeing:

  msgstr "=C2=A1Gris claro!"

instead of simply:

  msgstr "=A1Gris claro!"


And:

  "Language-Team: Espa=C3=B1ol ...

instead of:

  "Language-Team: Espa=F1ol ...

Correct?  If so, that's an artifact of them being encoded in UTF-8.

What were you using to edit them?  Does poEdit have problems, or were you
using a plain text editing tool like vi/VIM, Notepad, Emacs, KWrite, etc.=
?

Thx!

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-bill!
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http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/

Hi!

On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 23:28:25 -0700
Bill Kendrick <nbs@...> wrote:

> Hi all!  I just wanted to 'ping' folks to let them know I hope to release
> a new Tux Paint soon.

Wow!! I've been looking forward to see new Tux Paint long time!
Take an attached new Japanese translation.

Additionally, I found tuxpaint DO NOT use own font for japanese again.
(See Revision 1.408 of tuxpaint.c in CVS repository)

This is caused by missing entry in lang_prefixes[] for new Mexican Spanish 
translation.

Following patch will fix it.

--- tuxpaint-0.9.15/src/tuxpaint.c.org  2005-10-04 12:35:14.000000000 +0900
+++ tuxpaint-0.9.15/src/tuxpaint.c      2005-10-04 12:35:39.000000000 +0900
@@ -606,6 +606,7 @@
   "en",
   "en_gb",
   "es",
+  "es_mx",
   "et",
   "eu",
   "fi",

-- 
TOYAMA Shin-ichi
-- 
TOYAMA Shin-ichi

I see some strange characters, not the ones you tell me and I do see=20
accented characters well... it's strange... I've already set utf-8 but saw =
no=20
changes. The strange characters are ... and   "    of some type.
I'm using poEdit 1.3.1 under KDE, not sure if this is a bug of that version=
 or=20
what or what...
I willl try to download a newer version.

thx.
Gabriel


El Martes 4 de Octubre de 2005 18:07, Bill Kendrick escribi=F3:
> They are in UTF-8.  I suppose you are seeing:
>
>   msgstr "=C2=A1Gris claro!"
>
> instead of simply:
>
>   msgstr "=A1Gris claro!"
>
>
> And:
>
>   "Language-Team: Espa=C3=B1ol ...
>
> instead of:
>
>   "Language-Team: Espa=F1ol ...
>
> Correct?  If so, that's an artifact of them being encoded in UTF-8.
>
> What were you using to edit them?  Does poEdit have problems, or were you
> using a plain text editing tool like vi/VIM, Notepad, Emacs, KWrite, etc.?
>
> Thx!

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On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 10:45:21AM +0900, TOYAMA Shin-ichi wrote:
> Wow!! I've been looking forward to see new Tux Paint long time!
> Take an attached new Japanese translation.

Got it, thanks! :^)


> Additionally, I found tuxpaint DO NOT use own font for japanese again.
> (See Revision 1.408 of tuxpaint.c in CVS repository)
> 
> This is caused by missing entry in lang_prefixes[] for new Mexican Spanish 
> translation.

Oops, applied your fix.  Thanks and sorry! :)

-bill!

On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 06:38:52PM -0300, Gabriel Gazz=E1n wrote:
> I see some strange characters, not the ones you tell me and I do see=20
> accented characters well... it's strange... I've already set utf-8 but =
saw no=20
> changes. The strange characters are ... and   "    of some type.
> I'm using poEdit 1.3.1 under KDE, not sure if this is a bug of that ver=
sion or=20
> what or what...
> I willl try to download a newer version.

Any luck so far?

-bill!

On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Bill Kendrick wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 06:38:52PM -0300, Gabriel Gazz=E1n wrote:
> > I see some strange characters, not the ones you tell me and I do see
> > accented characters well... it's strange... I've already set utf-8 but =
saw no
> > changes. The strange characters are ... and   "    of some type.
> > I'm using poEdit 1.3.1 under KDE, not sure if this is a bug of that ver=
sion or
> > what or what...
> > I willl try to download a newer version.
>
> Any luck so far?

I'm not sure if it's a problem but I noticed that, too.  What happened is
that the regular quotes like " and ' changed to the angled quotes
(non-ASCII characters) since my last translation.  I think ko.po already
had the msgstr updated by someone (or something!) else so I didn't give it
much thought.

There were two bigger issues, though:

  1. ko.po was updated by someone or something, but it wasn't updated
     to the latest version of tuxpaint.pot.  So I sat for half an hour
     updating ko.po to an old version of tuxpaint.pot... only to realize
     later I wasn't working on the right version.  It didn't take much
     effort to adapt to the new version, but other .po files in similar
     boat may end up with an outdated translation if the translator
     doesn't update the .po file against the new tuxpaint.pot.

  2. When ko.po was updated, some of the strings ended up getting paired
     with the wrong translations.  From the looks of it, it was some
     scripted process and the program didn't match things up right... is
     my guess anyway.  Didn't take much effort to fix 'em, but we may
     have some wrong translations in the .po pool and may require
     all translators to check all entries of their .po files.

-Mark


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On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 03:42:24PM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote:
> There were two bigger issues, though:
> 
>   1. ko.po was updated by someone or something, but it wasn't updated
>      to the latest version of tuxpaint.pot.  So I sat for half an hour
>      updating ko.po to an old version of tuxpaint.pot... only to realize
>      later I wasn't working on the right version.  It didn't take much
>      effort to adapt to the new version, but other .po files in similar
>      boat may end up with an outdated translation if the translator
>      doesn't update the .po file against the new tuxpaint.pot.
> 
>   2. When ko.po was updated, some of the strings ended up getting paired
>      with the wrong translations.  From the looks of it, it was some
>      scripted process and the program didn't match things up right... is
>      my guess anyway.  Didn't take much effort to fix 'em, but we may
>      have some wrong translations in the .po pool and may require
>      all translators to check all entries of their .po files.
> 

Eek. Sorry, thanks for the note.

I'm currently staring at the Translation Project website, trying to figure
out how the _heck_ to get all of our latest .po's and .pot uploaded
to them.  I guess I just e-mail them all to the TP Coordinator address...?

I'm sitting in the #tux4kids IRC channel on irc.freenode.net 24/7.
I might not actually be in front of my computer, but you might catch me.

I think I need to e-mail all of the past translators to have them
update their POs, too...  (Not everyone is on the tuxpaint-i18n list.)

-bill!