Webware for Python

> Does one of you know this ?
> http://www.procoders.net/pythonstuff/ZPTPage/
> I have done severals things in TAL, mainly
> openTAL

What do you want to know exactly? We like Webware, but Cheetah is not easy
to use, if designers want to use tools like dreamweaver. So we decided to
use another template engine. ZPTPage is a small wrapper around Zope Page
Templates (http://zpt.sf.net) and we wanted to share it with the community.
I think Uwe (author of ZPTPage) is reading this list also, but I don't know
exactly. Feel free to send him a mail, if you have questions or comments.

regards,
Achim

On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:19:04AM +0200, Achim Domma (ProCoders) wrote:
> > Does one of you know this ?
> > http://www.procoders.net/pythonstuff/ZPTPage/
> > I have done severals things in TAL, mainly
> > openTAL
> 
> What do you want to know exactly? We like Webware, but Cheetah is not easy
> to use, if designers want to use tools like dreamweaver. So we decided to
> use another template engine. ZPTPage is a small wrapper around Zope Page
> Templates (http://zpt.sf.net) and we wanted to share it with the community.
> I think Uwe (author of ZPTPage) is reading this list also, but I don't know
> exactly. Feel free to send him a mail, if you have questions or comments.

In fact, it's the first time, i discover http://zpt.sourceforge.net/. 
I was looking for something like that for a while so I work w/ Lalo
on some tweak in openTAL to use it in webware. 

Do you know the gap between openTAL and ZPT.sf.net. cause openTAL
is a bit slow, as Lalo said. 

I really like the __call__ behavious of openTAL and the fact that it
don't have all the bloat coming w/ (like here/context and other stuff)

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> Do you know the gap between openTAL and ZPT.sf.net. cause openTAL
> is a bit slow, as Lalo said.

I played a little bit with openTAL and simpleTAL, but simpleTAL was too
simple and openTAL was not documented very well. ZPT is, as far as I
understand, extracted from the original Zope code, so you can be sure that
it matches the documentation on http://www.zope.org.

> I really like the __call__ behavious of openTAL and the fact that it
> don't have all the bloat coming w/ (like here/context and other stuff)

You don't have to use here/context. I had a version without, but I dicussed
with Uwe about it and he had some arguments to use it. On reason to put it
on the web was, to discuss a good solution with other people! ;-)

Achim

This is great!
As a former Zope developer (and former Java one too) I find this great,
because ZPT's was one of the things I really liked in Zope.
For a more friendly operation I created a ZPTKit and now I'm using Page
Templates again! I really like this way of processing my request, fill the
template context and finnaly render the template. Its really nice and
model-view-controler like.
I really think that something like a ZPTKit should be inlcluded in
Webware....
Thanks Kevin and Uwe for this work!!

Pedro Costa



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Achim Domma (ProCoders)" <domma@...>
To: <webware-discuss@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: [Webware-discuss] ZPTPage


> > Does one of you know this ?
> > http://www.procoders.net/pythonstuff/ZPTPage/
> > I have done severals things in TAL, mainly
> > openTAL
>
> What do you want to know exactly? We like Webware, but Cheetah is not easy
> to use, if designers want to use tools like dreamweaver. So we decided to
> use another template engine. ZPTPage is a small wrapper around Zope Page
> Templates (http://zpt.sf.net) and we wanted to share it with the
community.
> I think Uwe (author of ZPTPage) is reading this list also, but I don't
know
> exactly. Feel free to send him a mail, if you have questions or comments.
>
> regards,
> Achim
>
>
>
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