Actually, I was going to stick it in the "running X11" section of the
documentation pages. I was in the middle of updating some of the
versions (some parts still say the current version is 4.2.0!) when 4.3
came out, and I was waiting until the dust settled to make an update.
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 22:59, Benjamin Reed wrote:
> (excuse me for spamming you with a huge message, but I have an ulterior
> motive, I'd like to point to this in the FAQ too.)
>
> Greg wrote:
> > Am I'm I reading this correctly: XFree86 and xDarwin are separate installs?
>
> They're all variants on XFree86 (they're all based on the XFree86 code).
>
> > And what about xDarwin 4.3? Is this a purchase only version? I can't
> > find the download anywhere. Does the earlier version have any special
> > needs (or draws backs) in order to run in 10.2 (like Developer Tools)?
>
> XDarwin.org seems to be a group of people making money off of the real
> work being done by the XonX people (http://xonx.sf.net/). Now, it's not
> illegal to make money off of it, but the XDarwin folks sure go out of
> their way to make it look like they're the ones making it, so I'd stay
> away on principle. :P Please note I'm saying this as a regular guy,
> not in any official Fink capacity. :)
>
> Anyways, the summary goes like this:
>
> XDarwin.org: XFree86 4.3.0 (repackaged?)
> XDarwin.org's packages are just a redistribution of XFree86 4.3
> from XonX.
>
> Install system-xfree86 after installing this.
>
> xonx.sf.net: XFree86 4.3.0
> XonX is the sourceforge project officially managing the
> darwin-specific bits for XFree86 (mostly the work of Torrey Lyons).
>
> Install either:
> "xfree86" from Fink unstable, or
> the installer package from the web site + system-xfree86
>
> Note that these official XFree86 binaries are also available in a
> command-line shell script installer version from XFree86's FTP site.
> There's really no reason to go this way, but it works perfectly fine
> installing with those packages rather than the Apple installer on the
> XonX web site. You would still use system-xfree86 when you're done.
>
> Apple X11: XFree86 4.2.1
>
> Apple's X11 is based on XFree86 4.2.1 with some modifications. A
> number of the modifications overlap with the changes in XFree86
> 4.3.0, and a number don't. The net sum is that they're both about
> equal as far as performance, the only difference is Apple's X11 has
> quartz-wm and XFree86 4.3.0 doesn't (and Apple X11 has a couple of
> strange keyboard bugs right now, hopefully the next beta will clean
> that up). Supposedly, they will eventually merge the XFree86 4.3
> codebase with their work, which may make it the best of all,
> performance-wise, but for now it's about on par with 4.3.0.
>
> Install system-xfree86 after installing this (system-xfree86 4.2-11
> is the version that understands the latest Apple X11 beta).
>
> Fink stable XFree86: XFree86 4.2.1.1
>
> These are packages of the previous XonX release, split into two
> halves (the libraries and the X11 display server). It's older but
> very solid. It comes in 2 variants, threaded and non-threaded.
> The threaded build is a bit of a hack, but is required by a few
> packages (xine being the most popular, I think). If you don't
> require threading, however, I would suggest not using it. Otherwise
> if you switch to Apple's X11 (which doesn't support threading), you
> wouldn't be able to run binaries you compiled against the threaded
> versions.
>
> Install either:
> xfree86-base and xfree86-rootless, or
> xfree86-base-threaded and xfree86-rootless-threaded
>
> > <I guess what I'm asking for is a list of what needs to be installed,
> > and in what order, so I can get back to running GNOME and KDE in 10.2>
>
> There is no one list. You can install any of the X11 variants and
> things should work OK for you. My suggestion is either Apple X11 (with
> system-xfree86) or XFree86 4.3.0 (the "xfree86" package in unstable) if
> you're willing to deal with possibly-more-unstable code, although in
> practice they're both fairly solid for day-to-day work.
>
> If you want rock-solid stability at the expense of speed, xfree86-base +
> xfree86-rootless is the way to go.
>
>
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