phpMyAdmin

Hi

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:52:47 +0100
Sebastian Mendel <lists@...> wrote:

> my english is not as good to fully nderstand this patent:
>=20
> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=3DPTO1&Sect2=3DHITOFF&d=
=3DPALL&p=3D1&u=3D/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=3D1&f=3DG&l=3D50&s1=3D7,000,180.W=
KU.&OS=3DPN/7,000,180&RS=3DPN/7,000,180
>=20
> is this in someway problematic to us?

I do not thing it is possible to create any application without
breaking someones patents. I guess you should read FFII [1] website and
look at their demonstration of patents [2].

1. http://www.ffii.org/
2. http://webshop.ffii.de/

--=20
	Michal =C4=8Ciha=C5=99 | http://cihar.com

Hi again

just looked at that patent :-).

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:52:47 +0100
Sebastian Mendel <lists@...> wrote:

> my english is not as good to fully nderstand this patent:
>=20
> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=3DPTO1&Sect2=3DHITOFF&d=
=3DPALL&p=3D1&u=3D/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=3D1&f=3DG&l=3D50&s1=3D7,000,180.W=
KU.&OS=3DPN/7,000,180&RS=3DPN/7,000,180
>=20
> is this in someway problematic to us?

Anyway only interesting thing there is:

Filed: 	 February 9, 2001

So it is no problem as it was two years after initial phpMyAdmin
release. In case we use something patented there, I thing you have good
chance to win if they decide to sue you.

--=20
	Michal =C4=8Ciha=C5=99 | http://cihar.com

Michal Čihař wrote:
> Hi again
> 
> just looked at that patent :-).
> 
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:52:47 +0100
> Sebastian Mendel <lists@...> wrote:
> 
>> my english is not as good to fully nderstand this patent:
>>
>> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7,000,180.WKU.&OS=PN/7,000,180&RS=PN/7,000,180
>>
>> is this in someway problematic to us?
> 
> Anyway only interesting thing there is:
> 
> Filed: 	 February 9, 2001
> 
> So it is no problem as it was two years after initial phpMyAdmin
> release. In case we use something patented there, I thing you have good
> chance to win if they decide to sue you.

;-)

but now we cannot implement AJAX functionality ... :-( *g*


btw. i don't take it too hard/heavy, i just want to mention

and personally i don't care much about software patents - but phpMyAdmin 
is not only used in Europe ...


-- 
Sebastian Mendel

 http://www.sebastianmendel.de
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Michal Čihař wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:52:47 +0100
> Sebastian Mendel <lists@...> wrote:
> 
>> my english is not as good to fully nderstand this patent:
>>
>> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7,000,180.WKU.&OS=PN/7,000,180&RS=PN/7,000,180
>>
>> is this in someway problematic to us?
> 
> I do not thing it is possible to create any application without
> breaking someones patents. I guess you should read FFII [1] website and
> look at their demonstration of patents [2].
> 
> 1. http://www.ffii.org/
> 2. http://webshop.ffii.de/

i know this, and especially on this i see no patent used by phpMyAdmin


-- 
Sebastian Mendel

 http://www.sebastianmendel.de
 http://www.sf.net/projects/phpdatetime | http://www.sf.net/projects/phptimesheet

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:23:12 +0100
Sebastian Mendel <lists@...> wrote:

> but now we cannot implement AJAX functionality ... :-( *g*

Why not? I doubt there is enforceable patent that would cover it.

--=20
	Michal =C4=8Ciha=C5=99 | http://cihar.com

Michal Čihař wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:23:12 +0100
> Sebastian Mendel <lists@...> wrote:
> 
>> but now we cannot implement AJAX functionality ... :-( *g*
> 
> Why not? I doubt there is enforceable patent that would cover it.

Was a joke, with the above mentioned patent in mind. (As this patent 
covers AJAX ... and Flash, Java aso.)


-- 
Sebastian Mendel

 http://www.sebastianmendel.de
 http://www.sf.net/projects/phpdatetime | http://www.sf.net/projects/phptimesheet

Sebastian Mendel a =C3=A9crit :
> Michal =C4=8Ciha=C5=99 wrote:
>> Hi again
>>
>> just looked at that patent :-).
>>
>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:52:47 +0100
>> Sebastian Mendel <lists@...> wrote:
>>
>>> my english is not as good to fully nderstand this patent:
>>>
>>> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=3DPTO1&Sect2=3DHITOFF=
&d=3DPALL&p=3D1&u=3D/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=3D1&f=3DG&l=3D50&s1=3D7,000,1=
80.WKU.&OS=3DPN/7,000,180&RS=3DPN/7,000,180=20
>>>
>>>
>>> is this in someway problematic to us?
>>
>> Anyway only interesting thing there is:
>>
>> Filed:      February 9, 2001
>>
>> So it is no problem as it was two years after initial phpMyAdmin
>> release. In case we use something patented there, I thing you have goo=
d
>> chance to win if they decide to sue you.
>=20
> ;-)
>=20
> but now we cannot implement AJAX functionality ... :-( *g*
>=20
>=20
> btw. i don't take it too hard/heavy, i just want to mention
>=20
> and personally i don't care much about software patents - but phpMyAdmi=
n=20
> is not only used in Europe ...
>=20
>=20

Sebastian,
you seem to think that a US patent covers all non-european countries :)

Marc

On Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:52 AM +0100 Sebastian Mendel 
<lists@...> wrote:

> is this in someway problematic to us?

<http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/02/23/0159230.shtml>

What I take away from that discussion is that the patent only covers 
generation/editing of rich media with rich media apps. So, for example, a 
Flash-based AJAX editor. It still sounds bogus, but it's considerably 
narrower than covering all AJAX and Flash apps.