hmm yes I see all your guys point but what will PearPC do once PPC
macs are phased out and all the once PPC apps are made to run on Intel
processors ;-), that's why I sent this to the mailing list, because I
thought you guys may want some ideas as to what to do once the
transition is complete, but hey there's no pressure here, this is just
an idea :-)
On 6/17/05, Andy Toulouse <abject.resignation@...> wrote:
> Irrelevant to PearPC. It's not called ApplePC or OSXPC for a reason -- it=
's
> not a OS X emulator.
> =20
> PowerPC Emulation: Not going. Is integral.
> Hardware Support *specific to OS X*: Out of the scope of this project, o=
r
> at least not the focus.
> =20
> William Taira's hit the nail on the head. PearPC's mission is not to mak=
e
> OS X run. Its mission is to emulate as many PowerPC platforms as it can
> (which is still being worked on). Thus, there is no planned support for
> Intel-based operating systems of any kind.
> =20
>=20
> On 6/17/05, Hex Star <hexstar@...> wrote:
> >=20
> > no, this would not be emulation at all, Steve has already admitted
> > that OS X is currently both PPC and Intel compatible and in 2006 and
> > coming years it'll be phased into just Intel compatible, my suggestion
> > is to create a hack that'll add PC drivers to the OS so it can be run=
=20
> > on the PC without emulation, the only "hack" that would be needed
> > would be a bootloader that would take place of the normal mac ROM
> >=20
> > On 6/17/05, William Taira < williamtaira@...> wrote:
> > > If I remember correctly, someone else made the point that PearPC is n=
ot
> > > a "mac" emulator, it is a PPC emulator that happens to be used for Ma=
c
> > > emulation by the majority of users. Stripping out the PPC emulation =
is=20
> > > pretty much negating the reason for this project in the first place.
> > >
> > > The OS license from Apple has legalese in it somewhere to details tha=
t
> > > it should only be used on Macintosh computers. PearPC is instead an=
=20
> > > academic attempt to emulate PPC hardware on an alternate system. Wha=
t
> > > you are proposing is to turn the project into a "macintosh emulator",
> > > which I believe is stepping on toes that the project leaders here do =
not
> > > wish to offend.
> > >
> > > Then again, what do I know? Not intended as a flame, but as a
> > > clarification, from a side-stander's viewpoint. It is entirely possi=
ble
> > > I have completely missed the point of this project as well.=20
> > >
> > > -Will
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hex Star [mailto:hexstar@...]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 1:37 PM
> > > > To: pearpc-users@...
> > > > Cc: pearpc-devel@...
> > > > Subject: [Pearpc-devel] Ideas for PearPC use once the macs=20
> > > > switch over completely to Intel processors
> > > >
> > > > Not sure which list was best to send this to (was hoping that
> > > > one of the developers would read the ideas) so I'm sending
> > > > this to both lists, sorry about that :-(.=20
> > > >
> > > > Well, I'm sure everyone by now knows that in 2006 Apple will
> > > > start selling Intel based macs and by 2007 or so plan to
> > > > completely phase out PowerPC based macs. So I've come up with=20
> > > > some ideas that PearPC could still be useful for.
> > > >
> > > > 1) The PearPC development team could get rid of the PowerPC
> > > > emulation code so that the apps are run on the native x86
> > > > platform and instead focus on the emulation of the mac
> > > > hardware since at least not for a while MacOS X and above
> > > > will not work by itself on PC computers
> > > >
> > > > 2) The PearPC team could drop the development of the emulator=20
> > > > all together and instead focus on developing a hack similar
> > > > to the following (or exactly the same):
> > > >
> > > > The PearPC team could create a pc app where it would burn a
> > > > MacOS X cd (so that the person would have to legally buy a=20
> > > > copy of OS X first) to a temp dump on a HD, then the app
> > > > would go into the dump and modify the dump so that it
> > > > included PC drivers (generic perhaps? that way it'd be less
> > > > work and there could be focus on specific devices later on),=20
> > > > then it would be turned into a ISO which could be burned onto
> > > > a cd and walla, the person could boot off the cd and install
> > > > OS X onto their comp
> > > >
> > > > also I was reminded that there's the small issue of the mac=20
> > > > ROM, since you guys seem to have been able to emulate that
> > > > part without trouble you guys could create a bootloader which
> > > > would take the job of the ROM by in the installers case,
> > > > starting the installation process, and it would also be used
> > > > to start the bootup of OS X once installed on the PC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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