On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:30:18 -0500, Ethan Blanton <eblanton@...> wrote:
> Tim Ringenbach spake unto us the following wisdom:
> > >what if we collapsed to sean's display?
> > That's just what I was thinking.
> [ Summary to point, to make sure we're all on the same page and to keep
> people caught up. The proposal here is to have a status management
> widget at the bottom (possibly negotiable) of the buddy list which
> behaves largely as Sean has has outlined at
> http://gaim.sf.net/sean/status.php, which expands in some fashion to
> show each of the user's individual IM accounts in a vertical list much
> like the buddy list. This has been described as something like the
> mozilla sidebars, with the expanded form showing individual accounts
> being an "open" sidebar and the collapsed form showing a summary only
> being the "closed" sidebar. ]
> I think I like this idea. Or even perhaps with Sean's status menu as a
> permanent fixture, but a collapsible blist-looking section above it.
I like that idea, but I imagined it below, like expanding the panel,
to do the same thing for the all of the accounts.
Also if we are offline in that account we can click on Invisible and
voila, we have logged on invisibly. And we can have the account option
to always login with certain state or save the state between logons.
> > I like Sean's idea. One big thing he definately got right that I
> > overlooked was focusing on the more common, and more simple (e.g. easier
> > for the user to comprehend), problem of "Set all Away", or Set all blah.
> > Usually I don't want to mess with setting accounts individually,
> > although I might want to see what they got set to individually, to
> > verify that my heavy hand worked as expected.
> > Another thing I like about Sean's approch is the use of the dropdown
> > menu, instead of having to right click (and just what would left
> > clicking and double clicking do in the right click menu ideas?),
> > although I'm not yet sure if I like the dropdown menu's arrow icon.
> Having seen this discussion and the ideas in it, it occurs to me that
> perhaps the entries in the "expanded" frame should behave less like
> buddy list entries and more like Sean's status dropdown; perhaps showing
> an entry for each status option in the global dropdown, where selection
> of one of those entries changes only the account in question. (The
> entry modified appropriately to reflect this, of course.) My idea here
> is that _left_ clicking should be the action used to initiate simple
> status change, not right-clicking. Perhaps the right click could bring
> up a context menu from which the user could select the account editor or
> invoke account-specific actions.
Yeap I like that. Things like set nickname, set buddy ion, modify
> > Another question is how much nonstatus stuff should this status thing
> > have? (For the expanded form showing individual accounts) Several people
> > including myself have suggested involving account actions somehow. What
> > about buddy icons? Lots of people can't find the place to set them
> > currently, and having a way to view and set them on the buddy list
> > might be nice. Setting the same buddy icon for all accounts at once
> > might be nice too, especially since we scale and convert now, and
> > possibly could be worked into the all at once form. OTHO, we might be
> > losing focus, and cluttering things if we do any of this.
> I think that an expanded status view should show the buddy icon for each
> account, and perhaps allow images to be dropped on it to set the icon
> for an account ala' iChat. This could also be a context-menu item, or
> perhaps an action invoked by clicking on the buddy icon itself if there
> appears to be a reasonable way to visibly indicate that clicking on,
> say, the screen name will have a different effect than clicking on the
> buddy icon. I agree that selection of buddy icons could be streamlined.
I also have some ideas about how to move buddies from one account to
another having this frame with accounts on the below the buddy list.