On 30 May 2001 03:29:05 +0200, Christian Rose wrote:
> > > > nautilus and evolution ARE NOT the
> > > > corner of knowledge. i think GALEON
> > > > should be measured against the GNOME
> > > > 2.x specs instead of other crappy
> > > > programs. thats why everyone likes
> > > > NAUTILUS :)
> > >
> > > The Gnome 2.x specs are not done yet (AFAIK). And I don't agree about
> > > your comment about Nautilus and Evolution - those two *are* important
> > > GNOME projects, and projects that have also affected a lot of Gnome, and
> > > how Gnome 2.0 will be like.
> > ugh will gnome 2.0 will really look like this -?-
> Yes, with the addition of gtk+ 2 and lots of other nifty stuff. :-)
> > > Anyway, if you don't like Evolution and Nautilus, you can measure with
> > > MacOS and Windows. Both of these environments use "folder" too.
> > yeah who said that GNOME should be a copy of WINDOWS ? or MAC ?
> We want to conquer the world, don't we? That means, among other things,
> that we must use terminology that ex-Windows and ex-Mac users recognize
> and understand.
> No, GNOME should not be a copy, but there's no point in being
> deliberately different when it has no advantage but just drawbacks.
yeah right. thats what exactly
should become true and happen. but
always keep this sentence in mind.
'dont ask how we could improve
GNOME, ask how we can keep existing
GNOME users and/or new GNOMERS if we
continue this way'
hm awfull sentence, well you got an
idea. amongst all good ideas and
visions devlopers have and all the
time and hard work they spent making
it better. you should always keep in
mind that there are EXISTING gnomers
out. they went for GNOME because of
some reason. they want to WORK
easily with the programs they get,
they dont want to experiment around
with them. as you said evolution and
nautilus are both IMPORTANT projects
for the gnome community (so is
galeon). many developers for
nautilus and evolution have good
ideas and show their skills,
unfortunately they view from the
PROGRAMMER side instead of the USERS
side. people want working programs
now and no EXPERIMENTS. evolution is
far from beeing usable (stability)
so is nautilus (getting better but
nothing got added to cvs the past
5-6 days (bad sign imo)). so you
cant keep people on gnome with such
programs, good idea bad usage.
oki anyways lets stop this
discussion, aint my point at all. i
just wanted to point out that i
dislike the way people think. they
compare all shit to nautilus instead
of the CORE idea GNOME. if you want
to do something, follow the way of
GNOME and not the way of a BROKEN
MAC company. thats phase 2.
Name....: Ali Akcaagac
Status..: Student Of Computer & Economic Science