first let me tell I'm European, non-english speaking, so most of your
abbreviations are like chinese to me. ;-) And unfortunately, I wouldn't know
where to put Virginia on a map, apart from it being in the US...
> And I just burned off a copy of FC6 Live. But I have NDI if either has
> gramps on the cd. She does not have a net connection, so that's going to
> cramp things a bit. We did discuss it, but I'm not sure if she is
> educated just yet about its advantages and disadvantages. The ideal
> situation would be for her to get hooked up, and setup a vpn from her box
> to the historical societies box, but I have NDI if they have connectivity
> there either. Dialup due to the distance to the CO most certainly if
> they do.
you would be surprised what genealogist are able to do with PC's. Most have
internet connectivity as it saves the drive to some archive in many cases.
I forgot to mention, there is a live cd available:
It has several open source genealogy tools on it, and is based on
Drake LTS, which is a good choice for a home user not living on the edge!
However, then you best upgrade to the latest ubuntu package from here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=25770 after install.
> I'll have to check and see what format their existing systems are using as
> it would be a huge plus to just be able to read in their book of cd's and
> go from there.
If they are doing genealogy, they will have some data in GEDCOM. You
and export to GEDCOM from gramps. Best is to make a new empty grdb database,
and import a GEDCOM into it.
Some info is in text or spreadsheets. A third party plugin (see bottom of
CSV import) might be handy there. Note that problems with that should be send
to the author, not gramps.
>> The database should scale well, the other two not (as the file must be
>> read in completely, indexes build, references made, ...).
> Uhgg. OTOH, this ain't googles engine we're building here folks, and
> speed may not be a prerequisite until such time as there is enough data
> to make it usefull. Then, throwing money at it would appear to be at
> least a partial solution. This box is only a gigahertz cpu, max, maybe
A gigahertz should be just fine.
>> Of note here: the .gramps format is the smallest, whereas the .grdb
>> format is a
>> database and contains indexes, .. and hence is MUCH larger than the
>> other formats (you gain speed with this off course).
> Sounds rather like the way to go as long as it could still export in a
> format that would constitute an interchange to the GEDCOM world if that's
> what's being used now.
Yes, perfectly possible. Gramps can contain more info than GEDCOM, but that
should not be a problem.
Do set up a backup mechanism however if you feel up to it. Making a db
is a lot
of work, and new users often do strange things software was not meant to do.
Also, GRAMPS has a good manual (separate package on ubuntu), make your friend
read it, or read it yourself to assist her. It is not a long manual.
> Another consideration is that the majority of this group can be cataloged
> as being in the over 60 area, and computer literacy if they ever had any
> is in its declining years. In that regard I'm no different. I wrote
> good code, in assembly 15-20 years ago, and I still grok that, but even a
> bash script on modern machinery is a struggle for me at 72. So we may be
> biting off more than we can chew here, but it is worth it just to try
Linux is for children these days ;-) It's not as it used to be.
The older people I see in our city archive are very good at using the
for their purposes. I am amazed sometimes.
> I find it interesting because I'm the "furriner", only lived here 22 years
> now, coming to West Virginia in 1984 to be the CE at WDTV & from which
> I've been trying to retire from since 2001 but they won't let me.
> Very interesting because I have some of the major battlefields that made
> this country what it once was, _free_, are just an hour or three down the
> road. Interesting places to visit since prior to that, I had only read
> about them in the history books in school back in the '40's. If you go
> there now and listen closely, the echo's of the woundeds screams can
> still be heard, particularly if you have a good imagination. :) One of
> them is where 50,000 men met their maker in one day back then. And you
> really do feel the history when walking around in such a place. The tree
> of liberty was truly refreshed with the blood of patriots that day. Now
> its dying of malnutrition.
I know what you mean. I grew up 4 km of Passendale. Many people don't know the
battle: WO I, the British wanted to beat the Germans before the US arrived...
From july to november, less than 6 miles of terrain was won. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passendale (Note, they say they lost 570,000
troops, however the wiki is inaccurate in that lost meant in those days not
being able to fight anymore, some 30% probably died, no-one really knows.)
Chilling idea, to play on those fields, even stranger that all of the crosses
bear names from abroad...
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