On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 07:02:55AM -0500, Mark Doliner wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:36:54 -0500, Tim Ringenbach wrote
> > As for as the pref goes, I don't know if it'll be accepted. But
> > submit it to the patch tracker anyway, someone might like it, and
> > people can comment on it there. One of 3 things will happen:
> > 1. Nothing.
> > 2. The patch will be accepted, possibly with modifications requested
> > by you first.
> > 3. The default behavor will change to make PRIMARY paste text/plain
> I'm not a big fan of this preference. It seems confusing and wordy, and
> something that should be handled automatically by the program. I'm not really
i tend to agree here. few people will really grasp what it means unless
it is worded extremely long, and that's ugly in and of itself.
> fond of the fact that there are 2 copy/paste buffers, either (but I have a
> feeling that's not going to change...) And I don't think adding a
> shift+rightclick is a good idea--very few people would know about it or
> remember to use it.
i'm actually less against this than against a preference, though i'd
pick some-modifier+middle click, few people know about control-l, but
its still a useful keystroke to have, the same might very well be true
> Middle click should probably always paste whatever was highlighted. That's
> how pretty much all other applications work, no? Changing that would give
> users less confidence in highlight/middle click, and that's bad.
straight middle click should continue to be wysiwyg, this is in line
with how other formatting-capable applications are and are moving.
> What do people think of this idea:
> If you middle-click something and it contains HTML rather than plaintext, pop
> up a dialog asking "The text you are pasting contains HTML. Do you want to
> strip this HTML before pasting?" You could use the same dialog for CTRL+v and
> get rid of rightclick+Paste as Text. You could maybe even show a preview of
> the stripped vs. non-stripped text (but that's probably a bit overboard).
that would get annoying fast. next thing you know, people would be
clammoring for it to remember their decision, and with good reason: it
would hit you every time you copy out of a browser, out of a word
processor, so on.
> Users don't decide whether they want to paste as text or HTML until after
> they've pasted and they see all the ugly markup. Users don't ALWAYS want to
> paste as text or ALWAYS want to paste as HTML (so a preference to ALWAYS do
> one or the other isn't good).
users very rarely are pasting html content out of something other than a
text editor and expecting to see tags. they most likely don't have a
real preference how it appears, formatted or unformatted, unless the
formatting causes them to go over the size limit for that protocol.
> O O Mark Doliner
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