Docutils: Documentation Utilities

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 09:21, Guenter Milde <milde@...> wrote:
> Dear Docutils developers,
>
> reading that `Microsoft celebrates IE6 death`__ made me think whether we
> could move from CSS1 to CSS2 as well as from "transitional" to "strict"
> HTML4 for Docutils default HTML writer.
>
> __ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16408850
>
> One way to achieve this would be to
>
> * copy writers/html4css1/ to writers/html4css2
>
> * merge the "non-controversial" changes in
>  the sandbox's html_strict writer to writers/html4css2/__init__.py
>  and html4css2.css.
>
> * change the default "html" writer.
>
> Opinions?

+0

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[Guenter Milde] wrote & schrieb:


>could move from CSS1 to CSS2 as well as from "transitional" to "strict"
>HTML4 for Docutils default HTML writer.

Would that still allow <a href="..." target="_blank">?

Martin

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On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Martin Bless <m.bless@...> wrote:
>
> [Guenter Milde] wrote & schrieb:
> >
> >could move from CSS1 to CSS2 as well as from "transitional" to "strict"
> >HTML4 for Docutils default HTML writer.
>
> Would that still allow <a href="..." target="_blank">?

Not as far as I know. This is a transitional attribute. While looking
at information about this, I discovered that you can actually adjust
DTDs at the top of HTML files, but this is unsurprisingly badly
supported by browsers:

http://krijnhoetmer.nl/stuff/html/strict-doctype-target/

Best regards,

Adrien

On 2012-01-05, David Goodger wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 09:21, Guenter Milde <milde@...> wrote:
>> Dear Docutils developers,

>> reading that `Microsoft celebrates IE6 death`__ made me think whether we
>> could move from CSS1 to CSS2 as well as from "transitional" to "strict"
>> HTML4 for Docutils default HTML writer.

>> __ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16408850

...

>> Opinions?

> +0

I'll look into this after the next release.

Thanks,

Günter

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:37:41 +0100
Adrien Beau <adrienbeau@...> wrote:

> > Would that still allow <a href="..." target="_blank">?  
> 
> Not as far as I know. This is a transitional attribute. While looking
> at information about this, I discovered that you can actually adjust
> DTDs at the top of HTML files, but this is unsurprisingly badly
> supported by browsers:

But valid in HTML 5 ?

http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#attr-hyperlink-target

Cheers -Terry

On 2012-01-10, Terry Brown wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:37:41 +0100
> Adrien Beau <adrienbeau@...> wrote:

>> > Would that still allow <a href="..." target="_blank">?  

>> Not as far as I know. This is a transitional attribute.

However, as the "target" attribute is not used by the "html4cc1"
HTML writer, this would not imply any change do Docutils generated HTML.

The writer marks external links with ``class="reference external"``, though,
which allows giving them special properties with CSS or javascript.


> But valid in HTML 5 ?

> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#attr-hyperlink-target

Yes. However, only with a `valid browsing context name or keyword`__.

__ http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#valid-browsing-context-name-or-keyword


Günter

[Guenter Milde] wrote & schrieb:

>> But valid in HTML 5 ?
>
>> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#attr-hyperlink-target
>
>Yes. However, only with a `valid browsing context name or keyword`__.
>
>__ http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#valid-browsing-context-name-or-keyword


Which means that this isn't a restriction but is implicitely given as
"_blank" is such a keyword:

"""
A valid browsing context name or keyword is any string that is either
a valid browsing context name or that is an ASCII case-insensitive
match for one of: _blank, _self, _parent, or _top.
"""

Martin

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