Oh, and I forgot my most important reason to record digitally: When I was
recording on a reel to reel tape recorder (tape speed = 38 cm/s = 15 ips = 8
· Speed of Compact Cassette tape), it was very annoying that I couldn't hear
the result before I actually rewinded the tape and played it back. There was
always something that happened to the sound, like my old drum machine.
Either there was too much tape hiss, or it was too much tape saturation,
making the drums sound more like "bloff bloff" than "poff poff".
Sorry for not being able to explain things in English… But If I did it in
Swedish you wouldn't understand a word anyway… ;P
However, now when I record digitally, I can't hear much of a difference
between the instrument and the resulting recording, so all I need to do is
to tune in the "perfect sound", record it and then enjoy in. No more
rewinding, listening, frustration, more fiddling with the sound, trying
again and again and again, more frustration for each time… Saves me a lot of
time, which I need since I never practice playing. Take one is always a
disaster, I have absolutely no clue about how to play the sone. After maybe
20 takes or so, I have usually developed a few ideas or so, and after maybe
50-100 takes, I just try to make it "perfect". I always think, if I just did
the "almost perfect take", that "I can do it better. If not, I would
probably not be able to do what I just did either…". So I really need all my
time to make my fingers bleeding rather than for adjusting sound.
Well, thanks for listening, even though it was way out of topic and even
though all of you totaly disagree with me, but that's OK. I am me, you are
you, that's how it should be.
2008/12/2 Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knugum@...>
> 2008/12/2 Igor Chernenko <igor.chernenko@...>
>> Hi David,
>> I have already made some experiments with my new maximizer (tanh) and
>> classic music (Dvorak and the like).
>> My subjective conclusion:
>> nonlinear (hyperbolic) compression changes digital ersatz sound into
>> something even better than old analog sound.
> It's intereseting how different people are. Or maybe I'm the only one who
> is different, I don't know.
> Before there was digital sound avbailable for ordinary people - CD-players
> could be bought in Japan in 1982, in Sweden 1983 - I hated analogue sound.
> Vinyl records was annoying to me and I couldn't stand tape hiss, wow &
> flutter, drop-outs etc (still can't). In 1987 (still before I bought a CD
> player) I bought a 4 channel reel to reel tape recorder (TEAC A-3440) which
> I thought sounded pretty good. Low wow & flutter, great high frequency
> response, but still a lot of tape hiss.
> In 1990 I bought a HiFi VHS recorder and finally I was getting somewhere.
> Pretty good S/N and low wow & flutter, but now I had to deal with a new
> defect: Since there are two heads for the sound, altering each other, there
> will be a hearable defect when they switch between each other, so there was
> a lot of manipulatoing with manual tracking to make that new defect as quiet
> as possible, but I could always hear it, especially when listening at night
> through head phones.
> So in 1991, finally, I blught my first digital sound device: A Denon
> DTS-2000 DAT recorder. Since then I have never missed analogue recording
> exuipment. All defects of the other media types was just gone. This made it
> easier to hear other defects, but these are not annoying at all to me. The
> only time I feel that digital recordings annoy me is when they are converted
> to mp3, ogg etc when the bitrate is too low.
> These days I no longer have the DAT recorder. The heads was worn out and
> new ones would cost me almost as much as a new DAT recorder (this was a few
> years ago, today I am not sure if there are any DAT recorders to buy at
> all). Now I record everything on a Roland VS-2480 which I bought in autumn
> 2001, I think. It's a 24 channel recording machine, kind of, with built in
> 64 channel mixer and 17 motorized faders. That's actually all I need when I
> record my instruments etc, except that it would be nice to have a small hand
> held digital recorder, such as the Olympus LS-10, for some situations. The
> VS-2480 has almost all the features I want, including mastering tools and I
> equipped it with as many effect boards as possible.
> The worst thing about the VS-2480 is that it's not very open. There is no
> USB etc, so if I want to move my music to otner media, I will need to use
> the S/P-DIF out, the R-Bus (which isn't exactly International standard…) or
> burning it as a 24-bit wav. I usually do the wav thing, moving the CD to my
> computer and and continue my final work there. THEN I need a brick wall
> limiter, which the VS-2480 lacks… and that's what I'm looking for, for
> Unfortunately I have no time to fiddle around with Nyquist etc, so I
> haven't been able to make one myself, but at least I have an idea about how
> I want it to work. However, I am not very sure if it's possible to realize
> it with Audacity-Nyquist… I want to go through the sone sample by sample and
> I want to read ahead so that I can correct peaks before they actually
> happen, to prevent a square wave look. The level should gradually decrease
> BEFORE the peak appears, so that the peak level exactly hits a certain
> So my original idea was to just write a C++ program to read the wav file
> and create a new one (leaving the original intact) using my own limiter
> function (that I didn't create yet). Then someone said that "why don't you
> make a plugin for Audacity instead? Then you'll have the GUI automatically"
> or something like that.
> Sorry for not having testet that compressor yet, but I will soon.
>> It is, of course, my very subjective opinion...
>> But it is, perhaps, exactly the case, when a soft nonlinear
>> some would be insignificant change in proportions, produces a dramatic
>> change in the quality of the thing.
>> And it is so typical for non-linear phenomena...
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