From: Jean-Nicolas A. <jea...@gm...> - 2013-11-24 19:22:32
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Hello KDEnlive people, I'm new to the list, my name is Jean-Nicolas Artaud, but you may know me as morice-net on IRC. I've already contributed on calligra, especialy stage (even if I began with KOffice and KPresenter). I'm engineer in software development (C++/Qt) and I contribute on my free time only, trying my best :-) I also have an organisation background with some events I manage in Toulouse, France. What makes me come to you ? Plenty of KDEnlive fans and users are sad that their favourite open software doesn't have any evolution for a while. Technicaly speaking the master is in a broken state. Jean-Baptiste Mardelle has begun a big refactoring, and we can see no push on the master since the 4th of June. In two weeks, it will have long 6 months without a commit, and the state of the master is "broken". What I would like to do ? I can see that the community is present, both in an user and a developer PoV. I just would like to set the master in a good state, so that people can contribute again, and help me in fixing bugs and adding missing features and making this software lives again. That would be awesome. To realise this, I am wondering if you guys would be okay in the plan I'm discribing on the next paragraph. The commit that breaks the master is the merge from "refactoring" branch. The previous one is commit restart plan: commit 28a2b7fa96cab650b3d8c0747962439f87b6ec32 Author: Jean-Baptiste Mardelle <jb...@kd...> Date: Wed Jun 5 12:43:04 2013 +0200 Small cleanup and fix crash when switching to SDL display To reset the master in a good state, I guess it's a good start. By the way, the refactoring work cannot be lost. It's something that needs info so why not just putting it in a branch waiting the return of king Jean-Baptiste. So what do you think of that ? Am I wrong in some points ? Do you agree with me. I wouldn't like KDEnlive to stop involve, so I guess we'll make this change in something like 2 or 3 weeks. I would appreciate some returns of you to sure that it is the good way to do ! Thanks for reading -- Jean-Nicolas |
From: laurent M. <mo...@kd...> - 2013-11-25 06:16:42
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Hi Jean-Nicolas, I am totally ok with your plan. I will help you to improve it. We must restart this project. Regards Le dimanche 24 novembre 2013 20:22:23 Jean-Nicolas Artaud a écrit : > Hello KDEnlive people, > > I'm new to the list, my name is Jean-Nicolas Artaud, but you may know me as > morice-net on IRC. I've already contributed on calligra, especialy stage > (even if I began with KOffice and KPresenter). I'm engineer in software > development (C++/Qt) and I contribute on my free time only, trying my best > > :-) I also have an organisation background with some events I manage in > > Toulouse, France. > > What makes me come to you ? Plenty of KDEnlive fans and users are sad that > their favourite open software doesn't have any evolution for a while. > Technicaly speaking the master is in a broken state. Jean-Baptiste Mardelle > has begun a big refactoring, and we can see no push on the master since the > 4th of June. In two weeks, it will have long 6 months without a commit, and > the state of the master is "broken". > > What I would like to do ? I can see that the community is present, both in > an user and a developer PoV. I just would like to set the master in a good > state, so that people can contribute again, and help me in fixing bugs and > adding missing features and making this software lives again. That would be > awesome. To realise this, I am wondering if you guys would be okay in the > plan I'm discribing on the next paragraph. > > The commit that breaks the master is the merge from "refactoring" branch. > The previous one is > commit restart plan: > commit 28a2b7fa96cab650b3d8c0747962439f87b6ec32 > Author: Jean-Baptiste Mardelle <jb...@kd...> > Date: Wed Jun 5 12:43:04 2013 +0200 > > Small cleanup and fix crash when switching to SDL display > > To reset the master in a good state, I guess it's a good start. By the way, > the refactoring work cannot be lost. It's something that needs info so why > not just putting it in a branch waiting the return of king Jean-Baptiste. > > So what do you think of that ? Am I wrong in some points ? Do you agree > with me. > > I wouldn't like KDEnlive to stop involve, so I guess we'll make this change > in something like 2 or 3 weeks. I would appreciate some returns of you to > sure that it is the good way to do ! > > Thanks for reading -- Laurent Montel | lau...@kd... | KDE/Qt Senior Software Engineer KDAB (France) S.A.S., a KDAB Group company Tel. France +33 (0)4 90 84 08 53, Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090 |
From: Evert V. <evo...@gm...> - 2013-11-25 06:57:11
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I have to admit that I am also a little sad to see no commits to the git for the last six months. There are some bugs in the last stable release that could do with fixing while we wait for J-B-M to re-appear. While I am not a coder, it would be a terrible waste to let such a good project die, and I will help with quality testing and bug reports. Unfortunately the git repo is not useful now, and kdenlive built from it can't edit video. -Evert- On 25 November 2013 00:16, laurent Montel <mo...@kd...> wrote: > Hi Jean-Nicolas, > > I am totally ok with your plan. > > I will help you to improve it. > > We must restart this project. > > > Regards > > Le dimanche 24 novembre 2013 20:22:23 Jean-Nicolas Artaud a écrit : >> Hello KDEnlive people, >> >> I'm new to the list, my name is Jean-Nicolas Artaud, but you may know me as >> morice-net on IRC. I've already contributed on calligra, especialy stage >> (even if I began with KOffice and KPresenter). I'm engineer in software >> development (C++/Qt) and I contribute on my free time only, trying my best >> >> :-) I also have an organisation background with some events I manage in >> >> Toulouse, France. >> >> What makes me come to you ? Plenty of KDEnlive fans and users are sad that >> their favourite open software doesn't have any evolution for a while. >> Technicaly speaking the master is in a broken state. Jean-Baptiste Mardelle >> has begun a big refactoring, and we can see no push on the master since the >> 4th of June. In two weeks, it will have long 6 months without a commit, and >> the state of the master is "broken". >> >> What I would like to do ? I can see that the community is present, both in >> an user and a developer PoV. I just would like to set the master in a good >> state, so that people can contribute again, and help me in fixing bugs and >> adding missing features and making this software lives again. That would be >> awesome. To realise this, I am wondering if you guys would be okay in the >> plan I'm discribing on the next paragraph. >> >> The commit that breaks the master is the merge from "refactoring" branch. >> The previous one is >> commit restart plan: >> commit 28a2b7fa96cab650b3d8c0747962439f87b6ec32 >> Author: Jean-Baptiste Mardelle <jb...@kd...> >> Date: Wed Jun 5 12:43:04 2013 +0200 >> >> Small cleanup and fix crash when switching to SDL display >> >> To reset the master in a good state, I guess it's a good start. By the way, >> the refactoring work cannot be lost. It's something that needs info so why >> not just putting it in a branch waiting the return of king Jean-Baptiste. >> >> So what do you think of that ? Am I wrong in some points ? Do you agree >> with me. >> >> I wouldn't like KDEnlive to stop involve, so I guess we'll make this change >> in something like 2 or 3 weeks. I would appreciate some returns of you to >> sure that it is the good way to do ! >> >> Thanks for reading > > -- > Laurent Montel | lau...@kd... | KDE/Qt Senior Software Engineer > KDAB (France) S.A.S., a KDAB Group company > Tel. France +33 (0)4 90 84 08 53, Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel -- Evert Vorster Chief Observer WG Cook |
From: laurent M. <mo...@kd...> - 2013-11-25 12:03:56
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Le lundi 25 novembre 2013 00:57:03 Evert Vorster a écrit : > I have to admit that I am also a little sad to see no commits to the > git for the last six months. > > There are some bugs in the last stable release that could do with > fixing while we wait for J-B-M to re-appear. > > While I am not a coder, it would be a terrible waste to let such a > good project die, and I will help with quality testing and bug > reports. We need tester :) So thanks if you test a lot. Regards > > Unfortunately the git repo is not useful now, and kdenlive built from > it can't edit video. > > -Evert- > -- Laurent Montel | lau...@kd... | KDE/Qt Senior Software Engineer KDAB (France) S.A.S., a KDAB Group company Tel. France +33 (0)4 90 84 08 53, Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090 KDAB - Qt Experts - Platform-independent software solutions |
From: Salvatore B. <ope...@gm...> - 2013-11-25 08:01:05
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I'm all in for stresstesting bugfixes to current stable release and wait for J-B-M to reappear (Hopefully nothing bad happened to him). 2013/11/25 Evert Vorster <evo...@gm...> > I have to admit that I am also a little sad to see no commits to the > git for the last six months. > > There are some bugs in the last stable release that could do with > fixing while we wait for J-B-M to re-appear. > > While I am not a coder, it would be a terrible waste to let such a > good project die, and I will help with quality testing and bug > reports. > > Unfortunately the git repo is not useful now, and kdenlive built from > it can't edit video. > > -Evert- > > On 25 November 2013 00:16, laurent Montel <mo...@kd...> wrote: > > Hi Jean-Nicolas, > > > > I am totally ok with your plan. > > > > I will help you to improve it. > > > > We must restart this project. > > > > > > Regards > > > > Le dimanche 24 novembre 2013 20:22:23 Jean-Nicolas Artaud a écrit : > >> Hello KDEnlive people, > >> > >> I'm new to the list, my name is Jean-Nicolas Artaud, but you may know > me as > >> morice-net on IRC. I've already contributed on calligra, especialy stage > >> (even if I began with KOffice and KPresenter). I'm engineer in software > >> development (C++/Qt) and I contribute on my free time only, trying my > best > >> > >> :-) I also have an organisation background with some events I manage in > >> > >> Toulouse, France. > >> > >> What makes me come to you ? Plenty of KDEnlive fans and users are sad > that > >> their favourite open software doesn't have any evolution for a while. > >> Technicaly speaking the master is in a broken state. Jean-Baptiste > Mardelle > >> has begun a big refactoring, and we can see no push on the master since > the > >> 4th of June. In two weeks, it will have long 6 months without a commit, > and > >> the state of the master is "broken". > >> > >> What I would like to do ? I can see that the community is present, both > in > >> an user and a developer PoV. I just would like to set the master in a > good > >> state, so that people can contribute again, and help me in fixing bugs > and > >> adding missing features and making this software lives again. That > would be > >> awesome. To realise this, I am wondering if you guys would be okay in > the > >> plan I'm discribing on the next paragraph. > >> > >> The commit that breaks the master is the merge from "refactoring" > branch. > >> The previous one is > >> commit restart plan: > >> commit 28a2b7fa96cab650b3d8c0747962439f87b6ec32 > >> Author: Jean-Baptiste Mardelle <jb...@kd...> > >> Date: Wed Jun 5 12:43:04 2013 +0200 > >> > >> Small cleanup and fix crash when switching to SDL display > >> > >> To reset the master in a good state, I guess it's a good start. By the > way, > >> the refactoring work cannot be lost. It's something that needs info so > why > >> not just putting it in a branch waiting the return of king > Jean-Baptiste. > >> > >> So what do you think of that ? Am I wrong in some points ? Do you agree > >> with me. > >> > >> I wouldn't like KDEnlive to stop involve, so I guess we'll make this > change > >> in something like 2 or 3 weeks. I would appreciate some returns of you > to > >> sure that it is the good way to do ! > >> > >> Thanks for reading > > > > -- > > Laurent Montel | lau...@kd... | KDE/Qt Senior Software > Engineer > > KDAB (France) S.A.S., a KDAB Group company > > Tel. France +33 (0)4 90 84 08 53, Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090 > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. > > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing > > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up > now. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > > Kde...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > > > > -- > Evert Vorster > Chief Observer > WG Cook > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up > now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > -- -- Tore Brigaglia |
From: Vincent P. <vin...@st...> - 2013-11-25 10:41:40
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Hello, 100% agree with restoring master to stable state, as suggested in my previous mail: go on J.-N.! (+maybe cherry-pick last Laurent's optimizations that had commits after refactoring merge?) I'm finishing other projects & plan to free some time for kdenlive by end of year, but I'm still not a good coder :-\ I would look at stable code but also refactored one, as it seems quite elegant and flexible, allowing evolutions waited for long... and maybe we should not wait indefinitely or put too much on JBM :'( BR to all, Vincent Le 11/25/2013 09:00 AM, Salvatore Brigaglia a écrit : > I'm all in for stresstesting bugfixes to current stable release and > wait for J-B-M to reappear (Hopefully nothing bad happened to him). > > > 2013/11/25 Evert Vorster <evo...@gm... <mailto:evo...@gm...>> > > I have to admit that I am also a little sad to see no commits to the > git for the last six months. > > There are some bugs in the last stable release that could do with > fixing while we wait for J-B-M to re-appear. > > While I am not a coder, it would be a terrible waste to let such a > good project die, and I will help with quality testing and bug > reports. > > Unfortunately the git repo is not useful now, and kdenlive built from > it can't edit video. > > -Evert- > > On 25 November 2013 00:16, laurent Montel <mo...@kd... > <mailto:mo...@kd...>> wrote: > > Hi Jean-Nicolas, > > > > I am totally ok with your plan. > > > > I will help you to improve it. > > > > We must restart this project. > > > > > > Regards > > > > Le dimanche 24 novembre 2013 20:22:23 Jean-Nicolas Artaud a écrit : > >> Hello KDEnlive people, > >> > >> I'm new to the list, my name is Jean-Nicolas Artaud, but you > may know me as > >> morice-net on IRC. I've already contributed on calligra, > especialy stage > >> (even if I began with KOffice and KPresenter). I'm engineer in > software > >> development (C++/Qt) and I contribute on my free time only, > trying my best > >> > >> :-) I also have an organisation background with some events I > manage in > >> > >> Toulouse, France. > >> > >> What makes me come to you ? Plenty of KDEnlive fans and users > are sad that > >> their favourite open software doesn't have any evolution for a > while. > >> Technicaly speaking the master is in a broken state. > Jean-Baptiste Mardelle > >> has begun a big refactoring, and we can see no push on the > master since the > >> 4th of June. In two weeks, it will have long 6 months without a > commit, and > >> the state of the master is "broken". > >> > >> What I would like to do ? I can see that the community is > present, both in > >> an user and a developer PoV. I just would like to set the > master in a good > >> state, so that people can contribute again, and help me in > fixing bugs and > >> adding missing features and making this software lives again. > That would be > >> awesome. To realise this, I am wondering if you guys would be > okay in the > >> plan I'm discribing on the next paragraph. > >> > >> The commit that breaks the master is the merge from > "refactoring" branch. > >> The previous one is > >> commit restart plan: > >> commit 28a2b7fa96cab650b3d8c0747962439f87b6ec32 > >> Author: Jean-Baptiste Mardelle <jb...@kd... > <mailto:jb...@kd...>> > >> Date: Wed Jun 5 12:43:04 2013 +0200 > >> > >> Small cleanup and fix crash when switching to SDL display > >> > >> To reset the master in a good state, I guess it's a good start. > By the way, > >> the refactoring work cannot be lost. It's something that needs > info so why > >> not just putting it in a branch waiting the return of king > Jean-Baptiste. > >> > >> So what do you think of that ? Am I wrong in some points ? Do > you agree > >> with me. > >> > >> I wouldn't like KDEnlive to stop involve, so I guess we'll make > this change > >> in something like 2 or 3 weeks. I would appreciate some returns > of you to > >> sure that it is the good way to do ! > >> > >> Thanks for reading > > > > -- > > Laurent Montel | lau...@kd... > <mailto:lau...@kd...> | KDE/Qt Senior Software Engineer > > KDAB (France) S.A.S., a KDAB Group company > > Tel. France +33 (0)4 90 84 08 53 > <tel:%2B33%20%280%294%2090%2084%2008%2053>, Sweden (HQ) > +46-563-540090 <tel:%2B46-563-540090> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech > innovation. > > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and > game-changing > > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. > Sign up now. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > > Kde...@li... > <mailto:Kde...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > > > > -- > Evert Vorster > Chief Observer > WG Cook > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech > innovation. > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and > game-changing > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. > Sign up now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > <mailto:Kde...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > > > > > -- > -- > Tore Brigaglia |
From: Yuri C. <yu...@uk...> - 2013-11-25 11:15:07
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Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:41:30 +0200 було написано Vincent PINON <vin...@st...>: > Hello, > > 100% agree with restoring master to stable state, as suggested in my > previous mail: go on J.-N.! > (+maybe cherry-pick last Laurent's optimizations that had commits after > refactoring merge?) > > I'm finishing other projects & plan to free some time for kdenlive by > end of year, but I'm still not a good coder :-\ > I would look at stable code but also refactored one, as it seems quite > elegant and flexible, allowing evolutions waited for long... > and maybe we should not wait indefinitely or put too much on JBM :'( > > BR to all, > > Vincent > Hi, I also agree with reviving the project. There is not much I can help with, but I can do my best with i18n questions and offline docs. Best regards, Yuri > > Le 11/25/2013 09:00 AM, Salvatore Brigaglia a écrit : >> I'm all in for stresstesting bugfixes to current stable release and >> wait for J-B-M to reappear (Hopefully nothing bad happened to him). >> >> >> 2013/11/25 Evert Vorster <evo...@gm... >> <mailto:evo...@gm...>> >> >> I have to admit that I am also a little sad to see no commits to the >> git for the last six months. >> >> There are some bugs in the last stable release that could do with >> fixing while we wait for J-B-M to re-appear. >> >> While I am not a coder, it would be a terrible waste to let such a >> good project die, and I will help with quality testing and bug >> reports. >> >> Unfortunately the git repo is not useful now, and kdenlive built >> from >> it can't edit video. >> >> -Evert- >> >> On 25 November 2013 00:16, laurent Montel <mo...@kd... >> <mailto:mo...@kd...>> wrote: >> > Hi Jean-Nicolas, >> > >> > I am totally ok with your plan. >> > >> > I will help you to improve it. >> > >> > We must restart this project. >> > >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Le dimanche 24 novembre 2013 20:22:23 Jean-Nicolas Artaud a écrit >> : >> >> Hello KDEnlive people, >> >> >> >> I'm new to the list, my name is Jean-Nicolas Artaud, but you >> may know me as >> >> morice-net on IRC. I've already contributed on calligra, >> especialy stage >> >> (even if I began with KOffice and KPresenter). I'm engineer in >> software >> >> development (C++/Qt) and I contribute on my free time only, >> trying my best >> >> >> >> :-) I also have an organisation background with some events I >> manage in >> >> >> >> Toulouse, France. >> >> >> >> What makes me come to you ? Plenty of KDEnlive fans and users >> are sad that >> >> their favourite open software doesn't have any evolution for a >> while. >> >> Technicaly speaking the master is in a broken state. >> Jean-Baptiste Mardelle >> >> has begun a big refactoring, and we can see no push on the >> master since the >> >> 4th of June. In two weeks, it will have long 6 months without a >> commit, and >> >> the state of the master is "broken". >> >> >> >> What I would like to do ? I can see that the community is >> present, both in >> >> an user and a developer PoV. I just would like to set the >> master in a good >> >> state, so that people can contribute again, and help me in >> fixing bugs and >> >> adding missing features and making this software lives again. >> That would be >> >> awesome. To realise this, I am wondering if you guys would be >> okay in the >> >> plan I'm discribing on the next paragraph. >> >> >> >> The commit that breaks the master is the merge from >> "refactoring" branch. >> >> The previous one is >> >> commit restart plan: >> >> commit 28a2b7fa96cab650b3d8c0747962439f87b6ec32 >> >> Author: Jean-Baptiste Mardelle <jb...@kd... >> <mailto:jb...@kd...>> >> >> Date: Wed Jun 5 12:43:04 2013 +0200 >> >> >> >> Small cleanup and fix crash when switching to SDL display >> >> >> >> To reset the master in a good state, I guess it's a good start. >> By the way, >> >> the refactoring work cannot be lost. It's something that needs >> info so why >> >> not just putting it in a branch waiting the return of king >> Jean-Baptiste. >> >> >> >> So what do you think of that ? Am I wrong in some points ? Do >> you agree >> >> with me. >> >> >> >> I wouldn't like KDEnlive to stop involve, so I guess we'll make >> this change >> >> in something like 2 or 3 weeks. I would appreciate some returns >> of you to >> >> sure that it is the good way to do ! >> >> >> >> Thanks for reading >> > >> > -- >> > Laurent Montel | lau...@kd... >> <mailto:lau...@kd...> | KDE/Qt Senior Software Engineer >> > KDAB (France) S.A.S., a KDAB Group company >> > Tel. France +33 (0)4 90 84 08 53 >> <tel:%2B33%20%280%294%2090%2084%2008%2053>, Sweden (HQ) >> +46-563-540090 <tel:%2B46-563-540090> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription >> > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech >> innovation. >> > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and >> game-changing >> > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. >> Sign up now. >> > >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Kdenlive-devel mailing list >> > Kde...@li... >> <mailto:Kde...@li...> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel >> >> >> >> -- >> Evert Vorster >> Chief Observer >> WG Cook >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription >> Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech >> innovation. >> Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and >> game-changing >> conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. >> Sign up now. >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Kdenlive-devel mailing list >> Kde...@li... >> <mailto:Kde...@li...> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Tore Brigaglia > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up > now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel |
From: laurent M. <mo...@kd...> - 2013-11-25 12:43:54
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Le lundi 25 novembre 2013 11:41:30 Vincent PINON a écrit : > Hello, > > 100% agree with restoring master to stable state, as suggested in my > previous mail: go on J.-N.! > (+maybe cherry-pick last Laurent's optimizations that had commits after > refactoring merge?) Not necessary, was optimizations on refactor branche. cherry-pick will not work. > I'm finishing other projects & plan to free some time for kdenlive by > end of year, but I'm still not a good coder :-\ > I would look at stable code but also refactored one, as it seems quite > elegant and flexible, allowing evolutions waited for long... > and maybe we should not wait indefinitely or put too much on JBM :'( The plan is to restore code in 2-3 weeks. Regards > BR to all, > > Vincent > |
From: Brian M. <pez...@ya...> - 2013-11-25 14:13:52
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Has anyone done an assessment of what it would take to get master working without reverting all the refactor changes? I would predict that if you revert the refactor, and keep making changes to master, they will diverge and the refactor changes will never be able to be reapplied. I did a quick assessment of the refactor changes, and I believe those changes are important for the long term evolution of Kdenlive. While the master branch can not edit video right now, the 0.9 branch can. If all people need is some bug fixes, I recommend those changes be made in the 0.9 branch and any 0.9.x releases can be made from there. If someone is volunteering to add major features, then those changes should be made in master. But if someone is willing and able to make major feature changes, then I would wonder if they would be able to get master working without reverting the refactor. ~Brian ________________________________ From: Jean-Nicolas Artaud <jea...@gm...> To: kde...@li... Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 1:22 PM Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Let's make KDEnlive lives again together Hello KDEnlive people, I'm new to the list, my name is Jean-Nicolas Artaud, but you may know me as morice-net on IRC. I've already contributed on calligra, especialy stage (even if I began with KOffice and KPresenter). I'm engineer in software development (C++/Qt) and I contribute on my free time only, trying my best :-) I also have an organisation background with some events I manage in Toulouse, France. What makes me come to you ? Plenty of KDEnlive fans and users are sad that their favourite open software doesn't have any evolution for a while. Technicaly speaking the master is in a broken state. Jean-Baptiste Mardelle has begun a big refactoring, and we can see no push on the master since the 4th of June. In two weeks, it will have long 6 months without a commit, and the state of the master is "broken". What I would like to do ? I can see that the community is present, both in an user and a developer PoV. I just would like to set the master in a good state, so that people can contribute again, and help me in fixing bugs and adding missing features and making this software lives again. That would be awesome. To realise this, I am wondering if you guys would be okay in the plan I'm discribing on the next paragraph. The commit that breaks the master is the merge from "refactoring" branch. The previous one is commit restart plan: commit 28a2b7fa96cab650b3d8c0747962439f87b6ec32 Author: Jean-Baptiste Mardelle <jb...@kd...> Date: Wed Jun 5 12:43:04 2013 +0200 Small cleanup and fix crash when switching to SDL display To reset the master in a good state, I guess it's a good start. By the way, the refactoring work cannot be lost. It's something that needs info so why not just putting it in a branch waiting the return of king Jean-Baptiste. So what do you think of that ? Am I wrong in some points ? Do you agree with me. I wouldn't like KDEnlive to stop involve, so I guess we'll make this change in something like 2 or 3 weeks. I would appreciate some returns of you to sure that it is the good way to do ! Thanks for reading -- Jean-Nicolas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Kdenlive-devel mailing list Kde...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel |
From: laurent M. <mo...@kd...> - 2013-11-25 14:25:06
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Le lundi 25 novembre 2013 06:13:44 Brian Matherly a écrit : > Has anyone done an assessment of what it would take to get master working > without reverting all the refactor changes? I think that just Jean-Baptiste knows what we must do to make it work without reverting. > I would predict that if you > revert the refactor, and keep making changes to master, they will diverge > and the refactor changes will never be able to be reapplied. We hope that we will able to reapply it when we investigate refactoring code. > I did a quick > assessment of the refactor changes, and I believe those changes are > important for the long term evolution of Kdenlive. > > While the master branch can not edit video right now, the 0.9 branch can. If > all people need is some bug fixes, I recommend those changes be made in the > 0.9 branch and any 0.9.x releases can be made from there. it's not just fix bug, we want to improve it. > > If someone is volunteering to add major features, then those changes should > be made in master. We can't as it doesn't work. And we can not ask to developper to not add new features until master works. > But if someone is willing and able to make major feature > changes, then I would wonder if they would be able to get master working > without reverting the refactor. > ~Brian > Regards |
From: Evert V. <evo...@gm...> - 2013-11-25 14:55:07
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I agree here. No new features to 9.x branch, just bug fixes. The master does look promising, and leverages the latest KDE tech, so it would be silly to throw away all that hard work. -Evert- On 25 November 2013 08:13, Brian Matherly <pez...@ya...> wrote: > Has anyone done an assessment of what it would take to get master working > without reverting all the refactor changes? I would predict that if you > revert the refactor, and keep making changes to master, they will diverge > and the refactor changes will never be able to be reapplied. I did a quick > assessment of the refactor changes, and I believe those changes are > important for the long term evolution of Kdenlive. > > While the master branch can not edit video right now, the 0.9 branch can. If > all people need is some bug fixes, I recommend those changes be made in the > 0.9 branch and any 0.9.x releases can be made from there. > > If someone is volunteering to add major features, then those changes should > be made in master. But if someone is willing and able to make major feature > changes, then I would wonder if they would be able to get master working > without reverting the refactor. > > ~Brian > > ________________________________ > From: Jean-Nicolas Artaud <jea...@gm...> > To: kde...@li... > Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 1:22 PM > Subject: [Kdenlive-devel] Let's make KDEnlive lives again together > > Hello KDEnlive people, > > I'm new to the list, my name is Jean-Nicolas Artaud, but you may know me as > morice-net on IRC. I've already contributed on calligra, especialy stage > (even if I began with KOffice and KPresenter). I'm engineer in software > development (C++/Qt) and I contribute on my free time only, trying my best > :-) I also have an organisation background with some events I manage in > Toulouse, France. > > What makes me come to you ? Plenty of KDEnlive fans and users are sad that > their favourite open software doesn't have any evolution for a while. > Technicaly speaking the master is in a broken state. Jean-Baptiste Mardelle > has begun a big refactoring, and we can see no push on the master since the > 4th of June. In two weeks, it will have long 6 months without a commit, and > the state of the master is "broken". > > What I would like to do ? I can see that the community is present, both in > an user and a developer PoV. I just would like to set the master in a good > state, so that people can contribute again, and help me in fixing bugs and > adding missing features and making this software lives again. That would be > awesome. To realise this, I am wondering if you guys would be okay in the > plan I'm discribing on the next paragraph. > > The commit that breaks the master is the merge from "refactoring" branch. > The previous one is > commit restart plan: > commit 28a2b7fa96cab650b3d8c0747962439f87b6ec32 > Author: Jean-Baptiste Mardelle <jb...@kd...> > Date: Wed Jun 5 12:43:04 2013 +0200 > > Small cleanup and fix crash when switching to SDL display > > To reset the master in a good state, I guess it's a good start. By the way, > the refactoring work cannot be lost. It's something that needs info so why > not just putting it in a branch waiting the return of king Jean-Baptiste. > > So what do you think of that ? Am I wrong in some points ? Do you agree with > me. > > I wouldn't like KDEnlive to stop involve, so I guess we'll make this change > in something like 2 or 3 weeks. I would appreciate some returns of you to > sure that it is the good way to do ! > > Thanks for reading > > > -- > Jean-Nicolas > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > -- Evert Vorster Chief Observer WG Cook |
From: Javier A. F. A. <el...@gm...> - 2013-11-25 14:46:15
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what do you mean with "0.9" ? if you mean 0.9.0, its a long time ago code, with logs of bugs and features lost...... If you mean 0.9.6, its ok (for me at least). On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM, laurent Montel <mo...@kd...> wrote: > Le lundi 25 novembre 2013 06:13:44 Brian Matherly a écrit : > > Has anyone done an assessment of what it would take to get master working > > without reverting all the refactor changes? > > I think that just Jean-Baptiste knows what we must do to make it work > without > reverting. > > > > I would predict that if you > > revert the refactor, and keep making changes to master, they will diverge > > and the refactor changes will never be able to be reapplied. > > We hope that we will able to reapply it when we investigate refactoring > code. > > > I did a quick > > assessment of the refactor changes, and I believe those changes are > > important for the long term evolution of Kdenlive. > > > > While the master branch can not edit video right now, the 0.9 branch > can. If > > all people need is some bug fixes, I recommend those changes be made in > the > > 0.9 branch and any 0.9.x releases can be made from there. > > it's not just fix bug, we want to improve it. > > > > > If someone is volunteering to add major features, then those changes > should > > be made in master. > > We can't as it doesn't work. > And we can not ask to developper to not add new features until master > works. > > > But if someone is willing and able to make major feature > > changes, then I would wonder if they would be able to get master working > > without reverting the refactor. > > > > > ~Brian > > > > Regards > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up > now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > |
From: Brian M. <pez...@ya...> - 2013-11-25 15:27:02
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> what do you mean with "0.9" ? if you mean 0.9.0, its a long time ago code, with logs of bugs and features lost...... > If you mean 0.9.6, its ok (for me at least). I am referring to the v0.9 "stable" branch. See here in the "heads" list: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdenlive.git There is a "master" branch where the refactor code lives: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdenlive.git&a=tree&hb=1eed118ece688bd02e9c062d1d30e6672c8dfe56 There is a "v0.9" branch where bug fixes can be applied: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdenlive.git&a=tree&hb=1f0072e81e683935793ae5c42e7f3950b9683ae9 Before JB merged the refactor into master, he created a 0.9 branch for bug fixes while the master gets stabilized. See his announcement here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=CAHMxv35RbyPashjN_nZ6UrPUimXqPTMQ%3D32Q5rvWOgP_Rke%2BYA%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=kdenlive-devel If we use the branches the way JB intended, we will put bug fixes (and maybe small feature improvements) in the 0.9 branch and release 0.9.7 from that branch. I still think that anyone capable of adding features would be capable of getting master working. Master does run - and it looks really great. There are just some editing functions that need to get hooked back up. ~BM |
From: laurent M. <mo...@kd...> - 2013-11-25 16:08:57
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Le lundi 25 novembre 2013 07:26:54 Brian Matherly a écrit : > I still think that anyone capable of adding features would be capable of > getting master working. Master does run - and it looks really great. There > are just some editing functions that need to get hooked back up. You think that, so you will do it ? Do you launch master ? "just some editing functions" ? I saw that there is just 1 or two functions re-implemented. Even JB wrote that he will necessary several months until that all features implemented (and he knew very well kdenlive code) Regards -- Laurent Montel | lau...@kd... | KDE/Qt Senior Software Engineer KDAB (France) S.A.S., a KDAB Group company Tel. France +33 (0)4 90 84 08 53, Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090 KDAB - Qt Experts - Platform-independent software solutions |
From: Brian M. <pez...@ya...> - 2013-11-25 18:01:59
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>> I still think that anyone capable of adding features would be capable of >> getting master working. Master does run - and it looks really great. There >> are just some editing functions that need to get hooked back up.> >You think that, so you will do it ? > >Do you launch master ? >"just some editing functions" ? I saw that there is just 1 or two functions >re-implemented. > >Even JB wrote that he will necessary several months until that all features >implemented (and he knew very well kdenlive code) Ha ha! Yeah, you got me there. I did run master after JB merged the refactor branch. I remember that the app started and I could play clips. I also remember that the UI looked really good. So maybe I built my own (possibly incorrect) assumption that there wasn't much work to get everything working. But I haven't done my own assessment of the code - which is why I started my comments by asking if anyone else had assessed the code in master. Without an assessment of the code, nobody (except JB) will know how hard it will be to get it running. Also, I am, unfortunately, not volunteering to get the refactoring all working. However, if someone else can hand out small, manageable tasks, I would be willing to take on some small tasks. ~BM |
From: Jean-Nicolas A. <jea...@gm...> - 2013-11-25 19:52:11
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Hey, I'm happy to see that much reactivity of the KDEnlive community! Yay, we're alive ! First of all, I think putting the work J-B has already done in a branch. It's not a waste, just a pause ;-) It's easier to merge the branch "refactoring" (J-B were working in it before he did the merge) in the new master later on than porting bug fixes of a branch (that touch little parts of code every where) on a new architecture. And talking of that, not having new features on an open source software is not good for the community, it's doesn't attract developers for instance. Laurent has done several commits, looking at the logs, I guess he knows the architecture and the work that would have to be done on the current master to fix it. I will myself work around the code of commit I've suggested in the first mail, and also on the current state of the master, to be sure that we are taking the good choice. As said Laurent in something like 2 or 3 weeks, we should be ready to make the move! Thanks again for your fast answers!! Jean-Nicolas 2013/11/25 Brian Matherly <pez...@ya...> > > > >> I still think that anyone capable of adding features would be capable of > >> getting master working. Master does run - and it looks really great. > There > >> are just some editing functions that need to get hooked back up.> > >You think that, so you will do it ? > > > >Do you launch master ? > >"just some editing functions" ? I saw that there is just 1 or two > functions > >re-implemented. > > > >Even JB wrote that he will necessary several months until that all > features > >implemented (and he knew very well kdenlive code) > > Ha ha! Yeah, you got me there. I did run master after JB merged the > refactor branch. I remember that the app started and I could play clips. I > also remember that the UI looked really good. So maybe I built my own > (possibly incorrect) assumption that there wasn't much work to get > everything working. > > But I haven't done my own assessment of the code - which is why I started > my comments by asking if anyone else had assessed the code in master. > Without an assessment of the code, nobody (except JB) will know how hard it > will be to get it running. > > Also, I am, unfortunately, not volunteering to get the refactoring all > working. However, if someone else can hand out small, manageable tasks, I > would be willing to take on some small tasks. > > ~BM > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up > now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > -- Jean-Nicolas |
From: Vincent P. <vin...@la...> - 2013-11-25 20:13:57
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Le 25/11/2013 19:01, Brian Matherly a écrit : > But I haven't done my own assessment of the code - which is why I started my comments by asking if anyone else had assessed the code in master. Without an assessment of the code, nobody (except JB) will know how hard it will be to get it running. I guess Till who laid the foundations of the refactoring (thanks to the funding campaign) can have the best understanding of the new branch status, even after JB's work, but he seems busy for the moment... Cleaning the bug tracker to release a 0.9.7 is a first goal for few month ; putting new architecture in a useable state comes next (definition of useable might vary!), and then integrating mlt new stuff, new titler project, etc |
From: Salvatore B. <ope...@gm...> - 2013-11-25 23:46:10
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My suggestion here is then to book Till for a couple of months if he is willing to and depending on how much it will cost. We can easily organize a successful foundraising campaign for kdenlive. It's a well known project for what i know. Il 25/nov/2013 21:14 "Vincent PINON" <vin...@la...> ha scritto: > > Le 25/11/2013 19:01, Brian Matherly a écrit : > > But I haven't done my own assessment of the code - which is why I > started my comments by asking if anyone else had assessed the code in > master. Without an assessment of the code, nobody (except JB) will know how > hard it will be to get it running. > I guess Till who laid the foundations of the refactoring (thanks to the > funding campaign) can have the best understanding of the new branch > status, even after JB's work, but he seems busy for the moment... > Cleaning the bug tracker to release a 0.9.7 is a first goal for few > month ; putting new architecture in a useable state comes next > (definition of useable might vary!), and then integrating mlt new stuff, > new titler project, etc > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up > now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > |
From: Peter B. <pb...@da...> - 2013-11-26 01:34:27
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On 11/26/2013 12:46 AM, Salvatore Brigaglia wrote: > We can easily organize a > successful foundraising campaign for kdenlive. It's a well known project > for what i know. It is, indeed :) Wikimedia is using kdenlive for creating videos and teaching Wikipedians how to create and edit video. It might be a good start to contact Manuel Schneider (man...@wi...). <https://www.info.mediathek.at/exchange/Peter.Bubestinger/Echtes/Extern/wikimedia/Re:%20Capturen%20von%20HDV_x003F_.EML/?cmd=editrecipient&Index=-1> He might know whom to turn to regarding fundraising from Wikimedia for kdenlive? Regards, Pb |
From: Salvatore B. <ope...@gm...> - 2013-11-26 06:54:47
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But first better to wait for Till to know if he is interested... i guess he reads this ML. 2013/11/26 Peter B. <pb...@da...> > On 11/26/2013 12:46 AM, Salvatore Brigaglia wrote: > > We can easily organize a > > successful foundraising campaign for kdenlive. It's a well known project > > for what i know. > > It is, indeed :) > > Wikimedia is using kdenlive for creating videos and teaching Wikipedians > how to create and edit video. > It might be a good start to contact Manuel Schneider > (man...@wi...). > < > https://www.info.mediathek.at/exchange/Peter.Bubestinger/Echtes/Extern/wikimedia/Re:%20Capturen%20von%20HDV_x003F_.EML/?cmd=editrecipient&Index=-1 > > > He might know whom to turn to regarding fundraising from Wikimedia for > kdenlive? > > > Regards, > Pb > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up > now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list > Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > -- -- Tore Brigaglia |
From: Till T. <ro...@tt...> - 2013-11-27 09:29:47
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/26/2013 07:54 AM, Salvatore Brigaglia wrote: > But first better to wait for Till to know if he is interested... i > guess he reads this ML. Hi , indeed he does. And he feels quite guilty for leaving the code in such a condition - even more so after reading this thread. Regarding a fundraiser campaign: We still have a nice amount of money left from the super successful last campaign. But I am - at the moment at least - not available for full time work on Kdenlive. So before there's the chance of major progress in refactoring I guess moving the new code back to a separate branch is a good idea. Bug fixing and minor tweaking could be done there and we could release further 0.9.x versions (The next release would be 0.9.8 and not 0.9.7 by the way). Then - the status of the refactored code: It's still a long way to bring back all features from current Kdenlive - but: With the new structure it should be quite easy or at least rather straight forward for most of them. At least when the few remaining core parts are done. However these are rather complex and should be well designed, so they should definitely be done by someone with good knowledge of Kdenlive's current and comprehension of the new code. I will have a look at the code in a few days and then give a more detailed report. I'd also write a blog post afterwards.... Hope this explains at least the most urgent questions. Well maybe except jb's well-being... Hopefully he is just busy. regards, Till > > > > > 2013/11/26 Peter B. <pb...@da... > <mailto:pb...@da...>> > > On 11/26/2013 12:46 AM, Salvatore Brigaglia wrote: >> We can easily organize a successful foundraising campaign for >> kdenlive. It's a well known > project >> for what i know. > > It is, indeed :) > > Wikimedia is using kdenlive for creating videos and teaching > Wikipedians how to create and edit video. It might be a good start > to contact Manuel Schneider (man...@wi... > <mailto:man...@wi...>). > <https://www.info.mediathek.at/exchange/Peter.Bubestinger/Echtes/Extern/wikimedia/Re:%20Capturen%20von%20HDV_x003F_.EML/?cmd=editrecipient&Index=-1> > > He might know whom to turn to regarding fundraising from Wikimedia for > kdenlive? > > > Regards, Pb > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech > innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight > and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving > mobile landscape. Sign up now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > Kdenlive-devel mailing list Kde...@li... > <mailto:Kde...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > > > > > -- -- Tore Brigaglia > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech > innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight > and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving > mobile landscape. Sign up now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > > _______________________________________________ Kdenlive-devel > mailing list Kde...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlKVq8cACgkQzwEyz7QP6nRtCwCfYW1J6a8tu7Ne2zsj+IJo8Ggm p3cAnR5/kBSNDkS0wabYvmQ0LUPpTgnC =5hx0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Salvatore B. <ope...@gm...> - 2013-11-27 09:37:55
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2013/11/27 Till Theato <ro...@tt...> > I will have a look at the code in a few days and then give a more > detailed report. I'd also write a blog post afterwards.... > > Hope this explains at least the most urgent questions. Well maybe > except jb's well-being... Hopefully he is just busy. > Thanks Till! That clarifies the situation quite a bit in my opinion. So, resuming, the next steps are a bugfix release of the current "stable" branch and a freeze of the "refactoring" branch untill we hear back from j-b-m, let's say in 6 months from now, then a discussion of what to do can take place. we all hope he is just busy. Nobody has real-life contacts etails and can just poke him to ask if he is all right? -- -- Tore Brigaglia |
From: Peter B. <pb...@da...> - 2013-12-03 18:16:56
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On 11/27/2013 09:22 AM, Till Theato wrote: > > Regarding a fundraiser campaign: We still have a nice amount of money > left from the super successful last campaign. But I am - at the moment > at least - not available for full time work on Kdenlive. Maybe another funding opportunity might be to address the professional video archiving "community"? I'm not referring to e.g. broadcasting video cutters, since I assume that they (a) want "ShinyStuff(tm)" and (b) they might often not even be free to decide which tool they are allowed to use... I'm working at the national A/V archive in Austria. We've been using kdenlive for compositing scanned old films. Kdenlive enabled us to work with our lossless encoded material directly, which none of well-known proprietary video editing offer. Unfortunately, we couldn't continue to use kdenlive, due to certain instability issues as well as some required missing features necessary for best-possible accuracy/quality. I've contacted j-b-m about a paid development offer for this. He denied, also due to the fact of kdenlive's major rewrite (which I am impatiently looking forward to :)) There were only a few things to be adapted in the previous stable release of kdenlive. I'd be happy to contribute testing/knowhow skills to help kdenlive establish itself as a tool for professionals. btw: kdenlive us awesome! Lots of thanks and kudos to the developers. Regards, Peter B. |
From: Anna M. <gin...@in...> - 2013-12-03 18:38:16
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On 03/12/13 18:16, Peter B. wrote: > I'm working at the national A/V archive in Austria. We've been using > kdenlive for compositing scanned old films. Kdenlive enabled us to > work with our lossless encoded material directly, which none of > well-known proprietary video editing offer. I have also used this for archiving - its great! :) I used proxy clips and losless video. > I've contacted j-b-m about a paid development offer for this. He > denied, also due to the fact of kdenlive's major rewrite (which I am > impatiently looking forward to :)) Is there a date for the resolution of this? Thanks :) Anna |
From: Mikko R. <mik...@ik...> - 2013-11-26 07:52:55
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About kdenlive stable/0.9: Since summer I've tried to edit a few clips with kdenlive on Debian unstable and it was crashing a bit too much. I hope it's not lagging behind some ffmpeg/libav/mlt/kde/qt API changes which could explain these, but running cppcheck and Coverity scan on the sources and fixing their findings would be really good tasks for anyone interested. Also me. About the Coverity kdenlive 'project': anyone can join in and I should be able to approve applications to see kdenlive results (in addition to JB). The master branch would benefit from similar scans as well. And maybe even a valgrind run to catch memory problems... -Mikko |