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2010/11/6 David Ploog <dploog@...>

> On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Raphaël Langella wrote:
>
> > commit ee4b7d2665ca2989f0410eab2dc8c69ba504d08a
> > Author: Raphael Langella <raphael.langella@...>
> > Date:   Sat Nov 6 01:40:43 2010 +0100
> >
> >    Fix the crosstraining abuse with Ash's reskilling
> >
> >    This updates minor_version. I also replaced the random crosstrain
> bonus by a
> >    straight x2 (statistically identical).
> >    All the skill related vectors in layer.h now have a size of NUM_SKILLS
> instead
> >    of 50.
>
> Thank you so much!
>
> There was this idea of replacing the current cross-training mechanic by
> improved aptitudes. The letter turned out to be too complicated, so we
> won't do that. However, do you think we could still _indicate_
> cross-training by showing modified aptitudes in the m-screen? (Here, this
> is just about indicating cross-training, so that players can learn about
> it without having to read the manual. If this works out, we might do
> something similar for reduced learning of certain magical skills.)
>

Yes, it is indeed possible (and very easy) to indicate cross-training in the
m-screen in any way we like. Under the hood, it is different than an
aptitude bonus, but for the player the result is exactly the same (gaining
levels twice as fast). So I guess we could put a colored +4 next to the
aptitude.

On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Raphael Langella wrote:
> 2010/11/6 David Ploog <dploog@...>
>> On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Raphaël Langella wrote:

>>>    Fix the crosstraining abuse with Ash's reskilling
>>
>> There was this idea of replacing the current cross-training mechanic by
>> improved aptitudes. The letter turned out to be too complicated, so we
>> won't do that. However, do you think we could still _indicate_
>> cross-training by showing modified aptitudes in the m-screen? (Here, this
>> is just about indicating cross-training, so that players can learn about
>> it without having to read the manual. If this works out, we might do
>> something similar for reduced learning of certain magical skills.)
>
> Yes, it is indeed possible (and very easy) to indicate cross-training in the
> m-screen in any way we like. Under the hood, it is different than an
> aptitude bonus, but for the player the result is exactly the same (gaining
> levels twice as fast). So I guess we could put a colored +4 next to the
> aptitude.

Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Would something like -1 and -2 be 
adequate (roughly is enough) for the magical skill maluses?

David

2010/11/6 David Ploog <dploog@...>

> On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Raphael Langella wrote:
> > 2010/11/6 David Ploog <dploog@...>
> >> On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Raphaël Langella wrote:
>
> >>>    Fix the crosstraining abuse with Ash's reskilling
> >>
> >> There was this idea of replacing the current cross-training mechanic by
> >> improved aptitudes. The letter turned out to be too complicated, so we
> >> won't do that. However, do you think we could still _indicate_
> >> cross-training by showing modified aptitudes in the m-screen? (Here,
> this
> >> is just about indicating cross-training, so that players can learn about
> >> it without having to read the manual. If this works out, we might do
> >> something similar for reduced learning of certain magical skills.)
> >
> > Yes, it is indeed possible (and very easy) to indicate cross-training in
> the
> > m-screen in any way we like. Under the hood, it is different than an
> > aptitude bonus, but for the player the result is exactly the same
> (gaining
> > levels twice as fast). So I guess we could put a colored +4 next to the
> > aptitude.
>
> Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Would something like -1 and -2 be
> adequate (roughly is enough) for the magical skill maluses?
>

That would be misleading. Magical maluses only slow down training, it
doesn't cost more XP. Also, do you like blue for the crosstain bonus?