Nullsoft Scriptable Install System

Haven't had a chance to look at the code, but I totally vote yes on all of
them.
Gotta make sure it'll be easy for other to use those in the future too.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Anders <anders_k@...:

> Our current installer should be put out of its misery IMHO, we are a
> installer project after all so our installer should not suck!
>
> I took the currect nsi from SVN and modified it a bit:
>
> +Single User & All Users install types (UAC prompts are not cool)
> +Safer filetype uninstall logic (Only remove the stuff we installed,
> leave 3rd party changes alone)
> +Filetypes:PerceivedType for XP+ (Automatic support for all my text
> editors in the context menu, WIN!)
> *Separated Startmenu and Desktop shortcuts into sections (I'm actually
> still using the older nsis\nsis+examples folder+readme's shortcuts on
> my system, but I guess they were removed for a reason?)
> *Desktop shortcut is unselected by default (Desktop shortcuts suck ass
> (Hello Adobe Reader!), bundling that with the startmenu shortcut
> section is nuts)
>
> http://pastebin.com/YQia1FeL
>
> It probably needs more testing, what do you guys think?
>
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A couple of small changes and bugfixes:

+Make sure NT4 user is admin in .onInit
*Does not force default verb to be "open" (open is default if not set)
*Using </CurrentUser|/AllUsers> /D=c:\foo forces the /D path to be the
default for that install mode (In GUI mode)
*Minor optimizations

http://pastebin.com/nVjZG5KM

It is now very strict about not allowing Win9x and NT4 single user
installs. While a up to date system with IE4+shell update might have
$localappdata, the HKCU to HKCR mapping and uninstall entry will not
work (And who uses those systems on a shared machine to develop these
days anyways?)


Now for a couple of questions:

A) Why are we using WriteRegExpandStr to write the UninstallString and
InstallLocation uninstall entries? You can't use %appdata% etc in the
directory page and I could not get /D= to accept it either so is there
any scenario where $InstDir contains a path that needs to be expanded?

B) Do we need HK*\Software\NSIS\ ? We might as well just store the
version along with the uninstall data. Even if we stop writing it for
fresh installs we would have to keep updating it if it already exists
I'm guessing, but are these entries actually used by anyone other than
the installer itself?

...and just to clarify question B; I know makensisw.exe uses
HKCU\Software\NSIS but the current installer only writes to
HKLM\Software\NSIS and I was only talking about the entries written by
the installer (Path and version)

Maybe other program/plugin/editors working with NSIS are using 
HK*\Software\NSIS
Make sure you don't break compatibility

Le 22/03/2011 09:31, Anders a écrit :
> ...and just to clarify question B; I know makensisw.exe uses
> HKCU\Software\NSIS but the current installer only writes to
> HKLM\Software\NSIS and I was only talking about the entries written by
> the installer (Path and version)
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I was thinking about adding support for the default programs feature
added to Vista (
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc144154%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#SetYourDefaultPrograms
) but there is a problem; there is no way to specify a icon, the UI
uses the icon from the first verb and in our case that is notepad.exe!
I'll put this feature on the back burner for now...

...maybe we should add basic file editing to makensisw so we could
open files there and not in notepad?

I don't know if we want to create unnecessary competition for currently
available IDEs.
People will start asking for features and eventually we'll cave to some of
them, spending time on features already available in other editors and that
could be used for features of NSIS itself.
I'm not sure that we want, with our limited development time, to focus on
that.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Anders <anders_k@...:

> I was thinking about adding support for the default programs feature
> added to Vista (
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc144154%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#SetYourDefaultPrograms
> ) but there is a problem; there is no way to specify a icon, the UI
> uses the icon from the first verb and in our case that is notepad.exe!
> I'll put this feature on the back burner for now...
>
> ...maybe we should add basic file editing to makensisw so we could
> open files there and not in notepad?
>
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I agree.

I was thinking we could try launching the NSI/NSH file with the "edit" verb
and only if that doesn't work, run Notepad
So that the installed adequate editor is run first, which makes a better 
integration.

Le 25/03/2011 18:31, Amir Szekely a écrit :
> I don't know if we want to create unnecessary competition for 
> currently available IDEs.
> People will start asking for features and eventually we'll cave to 
> some of them, spending time on features already available in other 
> editors and that could be used for features of NSIS itself.
> I'm not sure that we want, with our limited development time, to focus 
> on that.
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Anders 
> <anders_k@... 
> <mailto:anders_k@...>> wrote:
>
>     I was thinking about adding support for the default programs feature
>     added to Vista (
>     http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc144154%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#SetYourDefaultPrograms
>     ) but there is a problem; there is no way to specify a icon, the UI
>     uses the icon from the first verb and in our case that is notepad.exe!
>     I'll put this feature on the back burner for now...
>
>     ...maybe we should add basic file editing to makensisw so we could
>     open files there and not in notepad?
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The edit verb approach might have some issues:

1) If we are somehow registered as the edit verb, we will loop forever!

2) I'm not sure if the Win7 recent files jump list is going to be
happy with nsisstub.exe >>> notepad.exe but who knows, maybe it will
work correctly.


I created a little proof of concept app that shows what we should be
aiming for (IMHO): http://i.imgur.com/yUDSy.png

1) I was simply talking about changing the behaviour of the "Edit 
script" menu from MakeNSISw, so it can't loop, even if MakeNSISw is 
somehow registered as edit verb, the user would still have to choose the 
menu item
2) i'm not sure what you're referring to with "nsisstub.exe", is it a 
stub that would launch an editor ?


Le 28/03/2011 02:54, Anders a écrit :
> The edit verb approach might have some issues:
>
> 1) If we are somehow registered as the edit verb, we will loop forever!
>
> 2) I'm not sure if the Win7 recent files jump list is going to be
> happy with nsisstub.exe>>>  notepad.exe but who knows, maybe it will
> work correctly.
>
>
> I created a little proof of concept app that shows what we should be
> aiming for (IMHO): http://i.imgur.com/yUDSy.png
>
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Yes, I was talking about a new stub exe. Currently we just set
notepad.exe under the open verb in the registry but that means we
can't use the default programs control panel in vista, so to work
around that we could have a little stub that first tries ShellExecute
using the edit verb, if that fails, just run notepad...