>>> daniel clemente <dcl441-bugs@...> seems to think that:
>hi, thanks for the update. just some comments about the
>user-centricity (which i think is very good and is what emacs needs):
>>> a second reason is that there are lots of "jump to definition"
>>tools out there that usually hit the 90% case. i thought it would
>>be cool to talk about how cedet gets the last 10%.
> that 10% would be a good thing to explain, but i think that most
> users will be comparing cedet to the base emacs (without other
> extensions), and they will be interested in that 100% of features…
> specially the simple and common ones. in fact, i think that the
> new cedet page does a better job on showing the world that „emacs
> can be a good ide“. many people don't believe that emacs can do the
> sort of things that for instance eclipse does.
I will get this added. It is on my todo list. All the web pages are
in CVS, so if someone wants to send me a patch, I'd be happy to accept
>> if anyone has thoughts on> such a screen-shot, i'd be happy to add it.>
> by the way, some comments about screenshots:- please use png
> instead of jpg so that they don't lose quality *and they don't look
> old*- since they must look nice: be sure to select a font which is
> pretty. i think sans serif fonts (in contrast to serif) look nicer
My machine and distro is old too. I have the xcf's around for some of
them, so I can rebuild some of the images. I was having trouble with
png files last time I updated the web site.
The title image I actually generated as a screenshot of Emacs itself.
Unfortunately, my truetype libraries don't work w/ Emacs 23, so I
still have aliased fonts there.
A script in www/img-gen/cedet-img.el will recreate the setup for the
title. If someone wants to recreate the 3 images in the title for me
using a better set of fonts, window manager, whatever, let me know.
> on screen- same with colors: combinations like orange over grey (in
> cogre) aren't very readable; it's not apt for an environment where
> you must do serious work for a long time- try to show the best. for
Yea. I usually run with a black background, but used a white
background for the snapshots. If someone would like to propose a
patch to cogre-mode.el with new defface numbers, I'd be happy to apply
> instance, the autocompletion dialog shown in the screenshot is too
> simple compared with eclipse's. eclipse's shows you icons,
> information about each function, return types, documentation… well,
> it helps you more. and i think that cedet can also show more
Good idea. What I'd really like to do is spend more time with
CompletionUI and get that working instead of using the tooltips in my
old interface. That would allow for better looking features as you
I focus mostly on the infrastructure pieces, and hope others can come
in and help make nice UIs. I don't really have time for both, and I'd
rather get correct answers.
> talking about users…:why do we need 2 wikis?: -
> http://cedet.wiki.sourceforge.net/ -
> is already well known as a wiki for emacs things. it's not very
> usable but it's simpler than sourceforge.
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I didn't want to pollute EmacsWiki with a bunch of administrative type
user-editable content. I still recommend EmacsWiki for "how to" and
basic descriptive content.
Eric Ludlam: eric@...
Siege: http://www.siege-engine.com Emacs: http://cedet.sourceforge.net