On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 22:14:47 -0500, Silvan
> We talked about this a bit back, spurred on by our Russian friend.
> I've been using Rosegarden a fair bit to do things that were canvas-intensive,
> and the tiny canvas really got on my nerves. I can't do anything about
> 1024x768. I have five computers in my sphere of influence, and *none* of
> them can do better than 1024x768 with an acceptable level of color depth. I
> just can't live with 8-bit color. Bleah.
Well, 1280x800 here (widescreen laptop), much better and a much rarer
case at the same time ;(
> So I've been scratching my beard the last couple days thinking on this, and
> letting the seed take root. I think I'd like to start futzing around with
> this and see what I can do. Alexandre doesn't seem all that keen on dipping
> his toes into the code, and I've been quite bored these last few days,
> looking for something to pique my interest.
I stopped programming about 5 years ago and I never wrote even "Hello,
World!" in either C or C++ :) I can understand an algorithm behind a
code while reading it, but I will never be able to write the same or
even better, so I cannot be helpful here.
> As Alexandre and I agreed, there's no better way to save space than to replace
> the nice, perfectly legible labels with icons. I don't like this idea, but
> it's hard to argue against it in terms of space saving. I've looked at quite
> a few widget-intensive applications, and abbreviations and meaningless icons
> are de rigeur. It makes something like Blender totally incomprehensible to
> behold, and that's definitely some friendliness lost from our interface, but
> it's hardly unprecedented as GUI design goes.
All friendliness would go to hints to each control :)
If we look at any proprietary application, for musicians or for
designers, in most cases we will see
a) extensive use if icons;
b) small fonts;
c) *some* smart abbreviations.
I've uploaded screenshot of fresh Samplitude 8 demo version:
http://www.ljplus.ru/img/prokoudine/samplitude8.png (77 Kbytes)
Look at the icons on the top toolbar: pretty smart usage of "#", don't
you think? :)
And at also has "Vel:" instead of "Velocity" etc. and the UI looks
So, overall, it looks like they have an agreement how large a label or
a caption on a button can be, and if the word in it is larger than 6-7
letters, they abbreviate it. Whether it is so or not, this may be a
good way to go.
> Looking at it that way, I'm still inclined to keep the human-readable labels
> and find some other way. Is there some way to widget it up so that the whole
> SBP/IPB array is in a separate, scrollable pane that could be resized at
> will, like the various panes in KMail? I thing I suggested that the last
> time this came up too. It would be kind of ugly, but not as ugly as all
> these funky icons.
I don't know how it works in KMail, so will look at it at home, but
having a decent experience with The GIMP, I don't like the idea of
scrollable panes. I really hate, when it comes to change some setting
that is not visible in the floating tool settings palette at the
moment and you have to scroll the palette to reach it and then scroll