gramps

What version of Graphviz do you have installed?
What version of Gramps?
/Peter

Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-18 21:51:
> Hi,
>
> No matter how many pages that I tell it to use, only one page use used.
> Thus, the nodes are *tiny*.
>
> Doesn't matter whether the page size is Letter, Legal or something exotic
> like B0, or whether the Output Filetype is PDF (Ghostscript), PDF (Graphviz)
> or Postscript.
>
> This used to work in the v3.3.0 days, but then I went to single Custom Size
> pages for efficient screen viewing.  Now I want to print the report, and the
> nodes are tiny.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Ron
>

On 09/18/2012 05:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Shame on me.
>
> Ubuntu 12.04
> graphviz 2.26.3-10ubuntu1
> gramps 3.4.1-1 from gramps_3.4.1-1_all.deb
>
> On 09/18/2012 04:12 PM, Peter Landgren wrote:
>> What version of Graphviz do you have installed?
>> What version of Gramps?
>> /Peter
>>
>> Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-18 21:51:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> No matter how many pages that I tell it to use, only one page use used.
>>> Thus, the nodes are *tiny*.
>>>
>>> Doesn't matter whether the page size is Letter, Legal or something exotic
>>> like B0, or whether the Output Filetype is PDF (Ghostscript), PDF (Graphviz)
>>> or Postscript.
>>>
>>> This used to work in the v3.3.0 days, but then I went to single Custom Size
>>> pages for efficient screen viewing.  Now I want to print the report, and the
>>> nodes are tiny.
>>>
>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>
>
>


-- 
If adults of legally sound mind must be told what foods they
are not allowed to buy, then those people are not competent
to choose (i.e. vote for) their own leaders.

2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@...>

> On 09/18/2012 05:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Shame on me.
> >
> > Ubuntu 12.04
> > graphviz 2.26.3-10ubuntu1
> > gramps 3.4.1-1 from gramps_3.4.1-1_all.deb
>

As I know you use the command line, some more technical information.

You can inspect the behaviour. If you tell Gramps to produce a .dot file,
then you can open that and see if things are as you would like concerning
pages.
The correct command for multiple pages is here:
http://www.graphviz.org/content/FaqMultiPage
So you can check if that is correct.

Then you can use a terminal to produce the graph:
http://www.graphviz.org/content/command-line-invocation

Best is -T with ps2, and then use ps2pdf to produce the pdf.

Benny

>
> > On 09/18/2012 04:12 PM, Peter Landgren wrote:
> >> What version of Graphviz do you have installed?
> >> What version of Gramps?
> >> /Peter
> >>
> >> Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-18 21:51:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> No matter how many pages that I tell it to use, only one page use used.
> >>> Thus, the nodes are *tiny*.
> >>>
> >>> Doesn't matter whether the page size is Letter, Legal or something
> exotic
> >>> like B0, or whether the Output Filetype is PDF (Ghostscript), PDF
> (Graphviz)
> >>> or Postscript.
> >>>
> >>> This used to work in the v3.3.0 days, but then I went to single Custom
> Size
> >>> pages for efficient screen viewing.  Now I want to print the report,
> and the
> >>> nodes are tiny.
> >>>
> >>> What am I doing wrong?
> >>>
> >>> Ron
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> If adults of legally sound mind must be told what foods they
> are not allowed to buy, then those people are not competent
> to choose (i.e. vote for) their own leaders.
>
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Benny Malengier skrev 2012-09-19 10:12:
>
>
> 2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@... 
> <mailto:ron.l.johnson@...>>
>
>     On 09/18/2012 05:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>     > Shame on me.
>     >
>     > Ubuntu 12.04
>     > graphviz 2.26.3-10ubuntu1
>     > gramps 3.4.1-1 from gramps_3.4.1-1_all.deb
>
>
> As I know you use the command line, some more technical information.
>
> You can inspect the behaviour. If you tell Gramps to produce a .dot 
> file, then you can open that and see if things are as you would like 
> concerning pages.

Note that the file is a *.gv file.

/Peter

> The correct command for multiple pages is here:
> http://www.graphviz.org/content/FaqMultiPage
> So you can check if that is correct.
>
> Then you can use a terminal to produce the graph:
> http://www.graphviz.org/content/command-line-invocation
>
> Best is -T with ps2, and then use ps2pdf to produce the pdf.
>
> Benny
>
>     >
>     > On 09/18/2012 04:12 PM, Peter Landgren wrote:
>     >> What version of Graphviz do you have installed?
>     >> What version of Gramps?
>     >> /Peter
>     >>
>     >> Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-18 21:51:
>     >>> Hi,
>     >>>
>     >>> No matter how many pages that I tell it to use, only one page
>     use used.
>     >>> Thus, the nodes are *tiny*.
>     >>>
>     >>> Doesn't matter whether the page size is Letter, Legal or
>     something exotic
>     >>> like B0, or whether the Output Filetype is PDF (Ghostscript),
>     PDF (Graphviz)
>     >>> or Postscript.
>     >>>
>     >>> This used to work in the v3.3.0 days, but then I went to
>     single Custom Size
>     >>> pages for efficient screen viewing.  Now I want to print the
>     report, and the
>     >>> nodes are tiny.
>     >>>
>     >>> What am I doing wrong?
>     >>>
>     >>> Ron
>     >>>
>     >>
>     >
>     >
>
>
>     --
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>     are not allowed to buy, then those people are not competent
>     to choose (i.e. vote for) their own leaders.
>
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Hello,

I am using the same tool versions and have no problem to create a pdf 
report on 4 A3 sheets.

Best regards
Detlef

On 09/19/2012 10:12 AM, Benny Malengier wrote:
>
>
> 2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@... <mailto:ron.l.johnson@...>>
>
>     On 09/18/2012 05:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>      > Shame on me.
>      >
>      > Ubuntu 12.04
>      > graphviz 2.26.3-10ubuntu1
>      > gramps 3.4.1-1 from gramps_3.4.1-1_all.deb
>
>
> As I know you use the command line, some more technical information.
>
> You can inspect the behaviour. If you tell Gramps to produce a .dot
> file, then you can open that and see if things are as you would like
> concerning pages.
> The correct command for multiple pages is here:
> http://www.graphviz.org/content/FaqMultiPage
> So you can check if that is correct.
>
> Then you can use a terminal to produce the graph:
> http://www.graphviz.org/content/command-line-invocation
>
> Best is -T with ps2, and then use ps2pdf to produce the pdf.
>
> Benny
>
>      >
>      > On 09/18/2012 04:12 PM, Peter Landgren wrote:
>      >> What version of Graphviz do you have installed?
>      >> What version of Gramps?
>      >> /Peter
>      >>
>      >> Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-18 21:51:
>      >>> Hi,
>      >>>
>      >>> No matter how many pages that I tell it to use, only one page
>     use used.
>      >>> Thus, the nodes are *tiny*.
>      >>>
>      >>> Doesn't matter whether the page size is Letter, Legal or
>     something exotic
>      >>> like B0, or whether the Output Filetype is PDF (Ghostscript),
>     PDF (Graphviz)
>      >>> or Postscript.
>      >>>
>      >>> This used to work in the v3.3.0 days, but then I went to single
>     Custom Size
>      >>> pages for efficient screen viewing.  Now I want to print the
>     report, and the
>      >>> nodes are tiny.
>      >>>
>      >>> What am I doing wrong?
>      >>>
>      >>> Ron
>      >>>
>      >>

On 09/19/2012 03:31 AM, Peter Landgren wrote:
> Benny Malengier skrev 2012-09-19 10:12:
>>
>>
>> 2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@... <mailto:ron.l.johnson@...>>
>>
>>     On 09/18/2012 05:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>     > Shame on me.
>>     >
>>     > Ubuntu 12.04
>>     > graphviz 2.26.3-10ubuntu1
>>     > gramps 3.4.1-1 from gramps_3.4.1-1_all.deb
>>
>>
>> As I know you use the command line, some more technical information.
>>
>> You can inspect the behaviour. If you tell Gramps to produce a .dot file,
>> then you can open that and see if things are as you would like concerning
>> pages.
>
> Note that the file is a *.gv file.

That my next question!

-- 
If adults of legally sound mind must be told what foods they
are not allowed to buy, then those people are not competent
to choose (i.e. vote for) their own leaders.

Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-19 12:24:
> On 09/19/2012 03:31 AM, Peter Landgren wrote:
>> Benny Malengier skrev 2012-09-19 10:12:
>>>
>>> 2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@... <mailto:ron.l.johnson@...>>
>>>
>>>      On 09/18/2012 05:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>      > Shame on me.
>>>      >
>>>      > Ubuntu 12.04
>>>      > graphviz 2.26.3-10ubuntu1
>>>      > gramps 3.4.1-1 from gramps_3.4.1-1_all.deb
>>>
>>>
>>> As I know you use the command line, some more technical information.
>>>
>>> You can inspect the behaviour. If you tell Gramps to produce a .dot file,
>>> then you can open that and see if things are as you would like concerning
>>> pages.
>> Note that the file is a *.gv file.
> That my next question!
>
Under "Output Format" select "Graviz File"
/Peter

On 09/19/2012 05:53 AM, Peter Landgren wrote:
> Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-19 12:24:
>> On 09/19/2012 03:31 AM, Peter Landgren wrote:
>>> Benny Malengier skrev 2012-09-19 10:12:
>>>>
>>>> 2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@...
>>>> <mailto:ron.l.johnson@...>>
>>>>
>>>>      On 09/18/2012 05:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>>      > Shame on me.
>>>>      >
>>>>      > Ubuntu 12.04
>>>>      > graphviz 2.26.3-10ubuntu1
>>>>      > gramps 3.4.1-1 from gramps_3.4.1-1_all.deb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As I know you use the command line, some more technical information.
>>>>
>>>> You can inspect the behaviour. If you tell Gramps to produce a .dot file,
>>>> then you can open that and see if things are as you would like concerning
>>>> pages.
>>> Note that the file is a *.gv file.
>> That my next question!
>>
> Under "Output Format" select "Graviz File"

Right.  I should have been more specific: how to print a .gv file was my 
next question...

-- 
If adults of legally sound mind must be told what foods they
are not allowed to buy, then those people are not competent
to choose (i.e. vote for) their own leaders.

Den Wednesday 19 September 2012 12.58.45 skrev Ron Johnson:
> On 09/19/2012 05:53 AM, Peter Landgren wrote:
> > Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-19 12:24:
> >> On 09/19/2012 03:31 AM, Peter Landgren wrote:
> >>> Benny Malengier skrev 2012-09-19 10:12:
> >>>> 2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@...
> >>>> <mailto:ron.l.johnson@...>>
> >>>> 
> >>>>      On 09/18/2012 05:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>>>      > Shame on me.
> >>>>      > 
> >>>>      > Ubuntu 12.04
> >>>>      > graphviz 2.26.3-10ubuntu1
> >>>>      > gramps 3.4.1-1 from gramps_3.4.1-1_all.deb
> >>>> 
> >>>> As I know you use the command line, some more technical information.
> >>>> 
> >>>> You can inspect the behaviour. If you tell Gramps to produce a .dot
> >>>> file, then you can open that and see if things are as you would like
> >>>> concerning pages.
> >>> 
> >>> Note that the file is a *.gv file.
> >> 
> >> That my next question!
> > 
> > Under "Output Format" select "Graviz File"
> 
> Right.  I should have been more specific: how to print a .gv file was my
> next question...
Load it to any texteditor and print from there or send it to me for analysis.

/Peter

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On 09/19/2012 03:12 AM, Benny Malengier wrote:
> 2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@...>
>
>> On 09/18/2012 05:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> Shame on me.
>>>
>>> Ubuntu 12.04
>>> graphviz 2.26.3-10ubuntu1
>>> gramps 3.4.1-1 from gramps_3.4.1-1_all.deb
>>
>
> As I know you use the command line, some more technical information.
>
> You can inspect the behaviour. If you tell Gramps to produce a .dot file,
> then you can open that and see if things are as you would like concerning
> pages.
> The correct command for multiple pages is here:
> http://www.graphviz.org/content/FaqMultiPage
> So you can check if that is correct.
>
> Then you can use a terminal to produce the graph:
> http://www.graphviz.org/content/command-line-invocation
>
> Best is -T with ps2, and then use ps2pdf to produce the pdf.
>

Now mysteriously it works for .dot files and directly-created PDF 
(Ghostscript) files.

PDF (Graphviz) files are still generated on one page.


Now,
(a) the report is 3 pages x 2 pages instead of the 2x2 I requested, and
(b) the person nodes are tiny and the lines are very, very long.


-- 
If adults of legally sound mind must be told what foods they
are not allowed to buy, then those people are not competent
to choose (i.e. vote for) their own leaders.

Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-19 13:21:
> On 09/19/2012 03:12 AM, Benny Malengier wrote:
>> 2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@...>
>>
>>> On 09/18/2012 05:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>> Shame on me.
>>>>
>>>> Ubuntu 12.04
>>>> graphviz 2.26.3-10ubuntu1
>>>> gramps 3.4.1-1 from gramps_3.4.1-1_all.deb
>> As I know you use the command line, some more technical information.
>>
>> You can inspect the behaviour. If you tell Gramps to produce a .dot file,
>> then you can open that and see if things are as you would like concerning
>> pages.
>> The correct command for multiple pages is here:
>> http://www.graphviz.org/content/FaqMultiPage
>> So you can check if that is correct.
>>
>> Then you can use a terminal to produce the graph:
>> http://www.graphviz.org/content/command-line-invocation
>>
>> Best is -T with ps2, and then use ps2pdf to produce the pdf.
>>
> Now mysteriously it works for .dot files and directly-created PDF
> (Ghostscript) files.
>
> PDF (Graphviz) files are still generated on one page.
Graphviz can only create single page PDF output.
To get multiple pages, Gramps tells Graphviz to create a postscript file,
which then is sent to Ghostscript, which can create multiple output pages.
This is done "under the hood".
>
> Now,
> (a) the report is 3 pages x 2 pages instead of the 2x2 I requested, and
This might depend on which paper size you select, I think. If you send 
the corresponding
*.gv file I might be able to find out why.

> (b) the person nodes are tiny and the lines are very, very long.
You must experiment a little with paper orientation and number of vertical
and horizontal pages.

>
>

On 09/19/2012 08:18 AM, Peter Landgren wrote:
> Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-19 13:21:
[snip]
>> PDF (Graphviz) files are still generated on one page.
> Graphviz can only create single page PDF output.
> To get multiple pages, Gramps tells Graphviz to create a postscript file,
> which then is sent to Ghostscript, which can create multiple output pages.
> This is done "under the hood".

This needs to be documented in a help bubble.

>>
>> Now,
>> (a) the report is 3 pages x 2 pages instead of the 2x2 I requested, and
> This might depend on which paper size you select, I think. If you send the
> corresponding
> *.gv file I might be able to find out why.
>
>> (b) the person nodes are tiny and the lines are very, very long.
> You must experiment a little with paper orientation and number of vertical
> and horizontal pages.
>

There are so many options:
   Paper Format orientation
   Output Format
   Graph Direction
   Num Horizontal Pages
   Num Vertical Pages

The # of combinations gets very large, very quickly when the way to generate 
the report is point and drool.

Too bad there's not a CLI interface to the report system.
-- 
If adults of legally sound mind must be told what foods they
are not allowed to buy, then those people are not competent
to choose (i.e. vote for) their own leaders.

Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-19 16:24:
> On 09/19/2012 08:18 AM, Peter Landgren wrote:
>> Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-19 13:21:
> [snip]
>>> PDF (Graphviz) files are still generated on one page.
>> Graphviz can only create single page PDF output.
>> To get multiple pages, Gramps tells Graphviz to create a postscript file,
>> which then is sent to Ghostscript, which can create multiple output pages.
>> This is done "under the hood".
> This needs to be documented in a help bubble.
>
>>> Now,
>>> (a) the report is 3 pages x 2 pages instead of the 2x2 I requested, and
>> This might depend on which paper size you select, I think. If you send the
>> corresponding
>> *.gv file I might be able to find out why.
>>
>>> (b) the person nodes are tiny and the lines are very, very long.
>> You must experiment a little with paper orientation and number of vertical
>> and horizontal pages.
>>
> There are so many options:
>     Paper Format orientation
>     Output Format
>     Graph Direction
>     Num Horizontal Pages
>     Num Vertical Pages
>
> The # of combinations gets very large, very quickly when the way to generate
> the report is point and drool.
>
> Too bad there's not a CLI interface to the report system.
Look here:

http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual_-_Command_Line

On 09/19/2012 09:46 AM, Peter Landgren wrote:
> Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-19 16:24:
[snip]
>>
>> Too bad there's not a CLI interface to the report system.
> Look here:
>
> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual_-_Command_Line
>

Silly me, I read the man page instead!!

-- 
If adults of legally sound mind must be told what foods they
are not allowed to buy, then those people are not competent
to choose (i.e. vote for) their own leaders.

2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@...>

> On 09/19/2012 09:46 AM, Peter Landgren wrote:
> > Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-19 16:24:
> [snip]
> >>
> >> Too bad there's not a CLI interface to the report system.
> > Look here:
> >
> >
> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual_-_Command_Line
> >
>
> Silly me, I read the man page instead!!
>

In that case, you read over the -a,--action=ACTION entry, which indicates
how to run a report or a tool :-P

Benny

On 09/19/2012 10:09 AM, Benny Malengier wrote:
> 2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@...>
>
>> On 09/19/2012 09:46 AM, Peter Landgren wrote:
>>> Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-19 16:24:
>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> Too bad there's not a CLI interface to the report system.
>>> Look here:
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual_-_Command_Line
>>>
>>
>> Silly me, I read the man page instead!!
>>
>
> In that case, you read over the -a,--action=ACTION entry, which indicates
> how to run a report or a tool :-P
>

    -a,--action= ACTION
           Perform ACTION on the imported data. This is done
           after all  imports  are  successfully  completed.

If I'm not importing anything, action doesn't occur.

-- 
If adults of legally sound mind must be told what foods they
are not allowed to buy, then those people are not competent
to choose (i.e. vote for) their own leaders.

2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@...>

> On 09/19/2012 10:09 AM, Benny Malengier wrote:
> > 2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@...>
> >
> >> On 09/19/2012 09:46 AM, Peter Landgren wrote:
> >>> Ron Johnson skrev 2012-09-19 16:24:
> >> [snip]
> >>>>
> >>>> Too bad there's not a CLI interface to the report system.
> >>> Look here:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual_-_Command_Line
> >>>
> >>
> >> Silly me, I read the man page instead!!
> >>
> >
> > In that case, you read over the -a,--action=ACTION entry, which indicates
> > how to run a report or a tool :-P
> >
>
>     -a,--action= ACTION
>            Perform ACTION on the imported data. This is done
>            after all  imports  are  successfully  completed.
>
> If I'm not importing anything, action doesn't occur.
>

Ok, this should be changed to
          Perform ACTION on the open data. This is done
           after all  imports  are  successfully  completed.

On 09/19/2012 10:38 AM, Benny Malengier wrote:
> 2012/9/19 Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@...>
[snip]
>>
>>      -a,--action= ACTION
>>             Perform ACTION on the imported data. This is done
>>             after all  imports  are  successfully  completed.
>>
>> If I'm not importing anything, action doesn't occur.
>>
>
> Ok, this should be changed to
>            Perform ACTION on the open data. This is done
>             after all  imports  are  successfully  completed.
>

One little bitty word makes *all* the difference...

-- 
If adults of legally sound mind must be told what foods they
are not allowed to buy, then those people are not competent
to choose (i.e. vote for) their own leaders.