Simply GNUstep

On Jan 14, 2004, at 11:29 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've installed the sgstep packages, but can't seem to get it running 
> properly. First of all, when I start X11 I get a GNOME desktop instead 
> of GNUstep. And if I start X manually, followed by starting wmaker I 
> get the normal Debian menu without the sgstep applications.

Yes, the setup is still a bit on the manual side, unfortunately.

After you apt-get your sgstep packages, make sure you apt-get wmaker.

Next step depends on if you want to use the kdm or gdm x11 display 
managers.

If you do use a display manager, there should be an option to start a 
window maker session

If you do not, the installation of the wmaker package should have 
configured a file called /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager  to make 
sure wmaker is started.

Once you're able to start X11 with wmaker, you need to open up a shell 
to start GNUstep apps.  The command "openapp GWorkspace" should work.

If it complains about not finding the program openapp, then you need to 
first type (in the shell) "source /System/Library/Makefiles/GNUstep.sh" 
  you can then use the openapp command to start GNUstep apps.
It seems there is a little bug in Debian which can cause the occurrence 
of the above problem.  So, sourcing the above file may or may not be 
necessary for you.


Hope this helps, any more questions?

Chad




>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Ronald
>
>
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On 15 jan 2004, at 1:52, Chad Hardin wrote:

>
> On Jan 14, 2004, at 11:29 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've installed the sgstep packages, but can't seem to get it running 
>> properly. First of all, when I start X11 I get a GNOME desktop 
>> instead of GNUstep. And if I start X manually, followed by starting 
>> wmaker I get the normal Debian menu without the sgstep applications.
>
> Yes, the setup is still a bit on the manual side, unfortunately.
>
> After you apt-get your sgstep packages, make sure you apt-get wmaker.

For some reason the installation of wmaker hadn't installed an 
x-window-manager alternative :-(

>
> Next step depends on if you want to use the kdm or gdm x11 display 
> managers.
>
> If you do use a display manager, there should be an option to start a 
> window maker session

I was using xdm. This defaults to starting x-session-manager, which was 
gnome's session manager. Removeing that alternative fixed that.

>
> If you do not, the installation of the wmaker package should have 
> configured a file called /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager  to make 
> sure wmaker is started.
>
> Once you're able to start X11 with wmaker, you need to open up a shell 
> to start GNUstep apps.  The command "openapp GWorkspace" should work.

And if you save the session state before logging out you only have to 
do this once :-)

>
> If it complains about not finding the program openapp, then you need 
> to first type (in the shell) "source 
> /System/Library/Makefiles/GNUstep.sh"  you can then use the openapp 
> command to start GNUstep apps.
> It seems there is a little bug in Debian which can cause the 
> occurrence of the above problem.  So, sourcing the above file may or 
> may not be necessary for you.
>
>
> Hope this helps, any more questions?

It sure did. Thanks for your help.

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