I agree that getting 0.9.0 finished is the most important goal. I'll try
to help out new people, where I can, but right now, I'm working on
testing and finding ways to speed up testing. I think we should tell new
people that they are certainly free to download the latest source and
work on their own projects. We can evaluate them for inclusion in the
next release, and in the meantime, they'll have them for their own
private use. (We might get better tested stuff that way, too.) But, what
we most need, is help testing. I think testing helps people learn the
application. If they'll work on testing first, they'll be much more
knowledgeable about the application and, hopefully, less likely to
introduce new bugs when they start programming.
I'd like to have a new forum set up, one dedicated to testing. I'm also
going to set up a page on the Wiki about bug reporting and testing and
how anyone who wants can get involved in the test effort.
If we are going to go to more frequent beta releases, we have to be very
sure that we test everything we do as thoroughly as possible so we don't
introduce bugs that make us look inept and frighten the user base.
Getting the community involved actually means we have to be more
diligent than ever about making sure changes don't break existing
Krzysztof Foltman wrote:
> Dimitry Polivaev wrote:
>> I have got an message that the person wanting to embed the images, Yelve
>> Yakut, has left the developer list. This case shows that willing to
>> contribute people are not happy with the current style of the freemind
> Honestly, I think it was a choice between ruining the project because of
> getting key developers distracted from the release (which is very bad)
> and pissing off a new member of the community (obviously bad, too, but
> perhaps not as bad as delaying 0.9.0 for another month or so). We gave
> rational arguments, or at least tried very hard, and they apparently
> were not convincing enough.
> I see Yelve's action as a kind of "emotional blackmail" - "design the
> feature NOW or I'll leave the list and make you feel guilty", and it
> seemed to look like that from start. Which means that the problem is
> more related to his lack of tolerance for having to wait a couple of
> weeks. You'd have to change a lot to make such a person feel comfortable
> with the project.
> Some people are incompatible with some projects, and there's little one
> can do about it.
> On the other hand, it would be nice if there was a dedicated person with
> lots of time to spend helping people who want to work on the project.
> But is it possible at the moment, without delaying the release? I think
> it isn't, because everyone with enough knowledge is fixing bugs at the
> Maybe after 0.9.0?
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