Alan's points on the BioPortal=20
quire interesting, see below.
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Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:43:34 +0000
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:43:16 -0500
From: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@...>
To: Mark Musen <musen@...>
CC: helen.chen@..., "Eric Prud'hommeaux" <eric@...>, w3c semweb=20
I've taken a quick look at the BioPortal and have some initial comments:
1) The terms of service says: "Except as expressly prohibited on the =20
Site, you are permitted to view, copy, print and distribute =20
publications and documents within this Site, subject to your =20
agreement that:... You will display the below copyright notice and =20
other proprietary notices on every copy you make"
I read this as saying that anything submitted to the repository would =20
be copyright "Copyright =A9 2005=962006, The Board of Trustees of Leland =
Stanford Junior University. All rights reserved.", which I would =20
guess some would consider unacceptable.
2) Termination of Use: You agree that The National Center for =20
Biomedical Ontology may, in its sole discretion, at any time =20
terminate your access to the Site and any account(s) you may have in =20
connection with the Site. Access to the Site may be monitored by The =20
National Center for Biomedical Ontology.
This is scary. There ought to be explicit cause for termination, =20
otherwise people might be reluctant to entrust their work to the site.
3) Disclaimer: "... PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" AND "AS AVAILABLE" =20
BASIS...". The W3C has taken steps to ensure that access to the files =20
hosted at the W3C domain will be maintained under a variety of =20
circumstances, using mirrors, externals services, etc. It would be =20
desirable that similar actions be taken by the NCBO, and some mention =20
of them included in the terms of service, particularly if URIs in the =20
bioontology.org namespace are to be used.
4) Use of ontologies: "Only the submitter of the ontology will be =20
able to modify it or submit new versions". In a project such as ours =20
that is group oriented, it is likely that individuals will come and =20
go. I think there needs to be some notion of group access so that we =20
aren't vulnerable to a key individual becoming unavailable.
5) It wasn't clear to me whether there was developer support e.g. svn =20
access. I don't know whether Helen et. all had in mind using such =20
services at W3C, but such access is certainly part of the development =20
cycle of projects such as ours. Is the model that ontology developers =20
use external sites for this and only submit relatively stable =20
versions of the ontology to the BioPortal?
On Jan 9, 2007, at 8:49 AM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote:
> I'd like to put in a vote that we take Mark up on his offer to have =20
> the files hosted on the BioPortal. I think this is consistent with =20
> the portion of the charter that says "HCLS will actively coordinate =20
> with groups and consortia within Life Sciences and Health Care =20
> areas: ... Research Institutes and Centers".
> The NCBO's mission is to support exactly what Helen is requesting. =20
> Should there be any any advantage we see to storing the data at W3C =20
> over NCBO, let's give that feedback to them and see if they can =20
> address it.
> On Jan 8, 2007, at 7:10 PM, Mark Musen wrote:
>> We'd be delighted to have you consider hosting these files on the =20
>> BioPortal ontology repository that we are creating as part of the =20
>> National Center for Biomedical Ontology (see http://=20
>> http://www.bioontology.org/ncbo/faces/index.xhtml). We soon will be =20
>> releasing BioPortal to the community, and this repository was =20
>> created for just the purpose that you have in mind.
>> Anyone can give the pre-release version a spin; we are extremely =20
>> eager for feedback.
Susanna-Assunta Sansone, PhD
NET Project - Coordinator
The European Bioinformatics Institute email: sansone@...
EMBL Outstation - Hinxton direct: +44 (0)1223 494 691
Wellcome Trust Genome Campus fax: +44 (0)1223 494 468
Cambridge CB10 1SD, UK room: A229 =20