On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:00:28PM -0500, Ethan Blanton wrote:
> Luke Schierer spake unto us the following wisdom:
> > After today's flood of fake bounce messages, I have changed this list
> > such that you must be subscribed to post. I realize this is somewhat
> > of a pain, as users who are cc'ed on help threads will not be able to
> > reply to the list in general, however, I think given the usage
> > patterns I have been seeing, where you all come through with just the
> > right answer and no reply is needed, I think we can survive this
> > change.
> > if someone thinks this is a bad idea and can support their position
> > logically and persuasively, I will revert the change.
> I think this is a bad idea, because I have no idea what address I might
> have used to sign up to this list. I generally despise subscriber-only
> lists, for a number of reasons, this being only one. A probably more
> important reason is, as you mentioned, non-list-subscribers who are Cc'd
> in order to bring in important outside opinions or information.
> I didn't look closely at the flood this morning, so perhaps they were
> just tricky spams, but it looked to me like they were bounces ...
> there's no logical reason for the list to accept mail from mailer-dae-
they were fake bounces. the email supposedly bouncing was not sent
from the list.
> mon@ anyway, so I would take the approach of simply shutting out that
> address. As far as other spams ... I don't get those, because I use
> effective spam filtering. I cannot condone impingement upon the utility
> of this list simply for the sake of those who do not have effective spam
right, I do not get most spam but fake bounces are particularly hard
to filter out without missing real bounces.
I have however turned on posting from anywhere in responce to sf's
stepped up efforts to reduce spam. apparently the flood that hit us
> (Who may or may not get bounced by the new policy)
> The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy
> for evils]. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
> determined to commit crimes.
> -- Cesare Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishments", 1764