On Wednesday, Apr 30, 2003, at 07:10 Canada/Eastern, Matthew Thomas
> * it doesn't clutter up the interface (like it does in Mozilla)
The thing that annoys me about Mozilla's tabs are their positioning
under the quick URL bar, or whatever the fsck that's called (you'd know
better than I :)) I feel like I'm slowly losing browsing space, as
more bars and tabs and gadgets and utilities, etc. are being added.
> * people aren't likely to do it by accident (like they are in
90% of the people I know do NOT use hotkeys in their browsers, and
generally don't use the "Open In New [Window|Tab]". Beyond that, most
people I know don't right click (or ctrl-click, for the Macheads), and
select any options. Then again, I know people who double click URLs.
Unfortunately, they're on dialup, so it takes a while to load a clicked
link, and they think it worked.
> * you don't have to go into a special tabbed browsing mode to do it
> (like you do in Safari)
I've been using Safari since it was announced, and I know they've added
tabbed browsing, but I'd not used it (or thought about using it) until
this very moment.
Visually, I think tabs only help of the window that's holding the web
page looks big and *heavy*. I'm not sure if I can qualify properly. :/
The best example I can come up with is the difference between the UIs
of Safari and Mozilla. Mozilla is big, looks very visually clunky,
while Safari (despite how much one might hate brushed metal) looks much
flatter, and much less intrusive. Plus, if the application itself
isn't heavy, and demanding on resources, then it's easy enough on the
system to keep multiple windows open.
> * you can still have separate windows for the same program (which,
> IIRC, you can't do in pwm)
That would be helpful. If you wanted to keep all but one of your
terminals grouped, and one separate (or grouped with other terminals),
it helps organisation. For example, having a group of "development"
terminals, while having another group of "remote systems" terminals
would be cool.
> * you can tab together windows from more than one program (ditto).
> (I'm not really the Web's most infamous objector to tabbed browsing. I
> just object to it being implemented by individual programs rather than
> by the window manager, because then (1) it's available in some programs
> but not in others, (2) it's inconsistent and cluttersome even in the
> programs which *do* implement it, and (3) you can't tab together
> from multiple programs.)
The world has come to an end. We agree. :)
Having different implementations of tabs would be annoying, especially
if they are manipulated differently.