Hi Alex,
Just a quick comment on the features listed below. It looks like there
is quite a few things to tweak here, which raises the question of
whether this degree of customization is really needed? The number of
options here is quite overwhelming and I'm pretty sure most people
won't even understand most of these settings. This is, of course, my
personal opinion and you might have a different idea. I would still
propose that we go through these options and choose the ones that
really make a difference and drop the rest. For instance, I find it
hard to see why we would need many different HOPO key detection
schemes, and choosing a single working HOPO scheme might also be
possible. Also, the POV options are unlikely to affect scoring, so it
might not need to be reflected in the charts. It might also make sense
to change the built-in defaults of the game for some settings instead
of introducing a configuration option.
Also, let's finally move this discussion to the mailing list :)
- Sami
On Dec 19, 2007 5:33 PM, Alex Samonte <asamonte@...> wrote:
> On 12/18/07, Joonas Kerttula <joonas.kerttula@...> wrote:
> > Are those icons coming to the game or to the charts?
>
> [Alex] Actually both. The charts need png icons, the game needs them in svg
> format (similar in size to the multiplier balls or the stars)
>
> To look at my first stab at icons for the web check out:
> http://www.prison.net/FoF-Chart/chart.php
>
> Here's something i wrote up to kind of describe what each was for and some
> possible ideas for each.
>
> 2 note chords
> Description
> When playing chords, many keyboards cannot hold down more than 3 keys at a
> time. so if you chords consisting of two notes, you can usually hold those
> and press the pick button. For chords with 3 or more notes, usually some
> button does not register. With two note chords you can play these 3+ note
> chords by just pressing the two outer notes of the chord and picking. Ex: A
> chord of GRYB can be played by picking GB
>
> Icon ideas
> A simple 2
> a hand with index and pinky held down (won't translate into 16x16 well)
> 3 or 4 color bars with the outer ones glowing
>
> VBPM off
> Description
> Within some songs are tempo markers. These speed up or slow down the
> beats per minute of the song. In game this causes the notes to come at you
> faster or slower. This does not change the speed at which you play the
> notes, it just either shows more or less notes on the screen and they have a
> lower or higher velocity. Turning this off keeps the BPM constant and the
> velocity constant.
>
>
> Icon ideas
> A watch/clock with a stop/disabled sign.
> A speedometer pegged at 55 (might be hard to get numbers on a 16x16 icon)
>
>
> HOPO off
> Description
> Notes that are a certain closeness together can be HOPOed (Hammer on, pull
> off). This means that you can play the next note by just pressing that key,
> rather than pressing that key and picking. With HOPOs off this is disabled
>
> Icon ideas
> Hammer with an anti symbol though it.
> Hammer with a stop/disabled sign
>
> HOPO Marks RFmod
> Description
> The original algorithm for which notes can be HOPO notes was not very
> accurate. An improved one (which makes it more like GH) was implemented.
>
> Icon ideas
> notes or dots of 3 or 4 colors
>
> HOPO Marks Explicit
> Description
> Similar to the previous except instead of being calculated, the HOPO
> sections are explicitly defined in the song
>
> Icon ideas
> notes or dots of 3 or 4 colors with a different color scheme than the last
> or maybe a different note/dot style
>
> HOPO Style RFmod
> Description
> In game I call this a 'key style' because it's a modification on how key
> presses are detected
>
> Icon ideas
> 3 keyboard keys in a row perhaps with a small letter or icon in the lower
> corner
> Some style of guitar (or perhaps just the neck)
>
> HOPO Style RFmod2
> Description
> Similar to the last it's just another key detection method
>
> Icon ideas
> 3 keyboard keys in a row, perhaps with a different small letter, or icon
> in the lower corner. Perhaps a different color scheme
> some different style of guitar (or perhaps just neck)
>
> POV GH
> Description
> The angle of the fretboard when playing is set to a more GH angle
>
> Icon ideas
> A fretboard (or just a plane) perspective with a small letter or icon in
> the lower corner.
>
> POV Custom
> Description
> The angle of the fretboard whe playing is set to some custom angle
>
> Icon ideas
> A fretboard (or just a plane) perspective with a small letter or icon in
> the lower corner.
>
> Margin Easy
> Description
> The allowable time before and after when a note crosses the hit mark that
> a note can still be hit. This is the largest value
>
> Icon ideas
>
> A single line in the middle with a different colored bar extending up and
> down above the line as tall as the icon is.
>
> Margin Hard
> Description
> The allowable time before and after when a note crosses the hit mark that
> a note can still be hit. This is the smallest value
>
> Icon ideas
>
> A single line in the middle with a different colored bar extending up and
> down above the line just a little bit
>
> Margin Medium
> Description
> The allowable time before and after when a note crosses the hit mark that
> a note can still be hit. This is the middle value
>
> Icon ideas
>
> A single line in the middle with a different colored bar extending up and
> down above the line less than the easy one, but more than the hard.
>
> Margin Capo
> Description
> The allowable time before and after when a note crosses the hit mark that
> a note can still be hit. In this variation there's a maximum cap on the
> value (regardless of other factors)
>
> Icon ideas
>
> A single line in the middle with a different colored bar extending up and
> down above the line similar in size to medium, but on the top of the bar put
> a baseball cap
>
> A single line in the middle with a different colored bar extending up and
> down above the line similar in size to medium, but on the top of the bar
> have a dotted line that crosses
>
> 8th note HOPOs
> Description
> Normally the HOPOs are computed by any notes that are closer than an 8th
> note together (16th notes) are counted as HOPO notes. Some songs have
> anything closer than a quater note (8th note) as HOPO notes.
>
>
> Icon ideas
>
> two 8th notes
>
> Board Speed
> Description
> Normally the board speed is dependant on the tempo and BPM. With this
> option the board speed is linked to the difficulty played. Similar to the
> VBPM option, but can be used with and without it
>
> Icon ideas
> A watch/clock with a link icon.
> A speedometer with a link icon (might be hard to differentiate between
> this and watch/clock on a 16x16 icon)
>
> -Alex
>
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