some thoughts to another topic:
As I see: the features, a lonely Messenger does not have,
1. Chatting from One Messenger to another emssenger (so a AIM User can
chat with ICQ-User)
2. Rezuming fo filetransport
ad1: I have a question,
Do I Need a MSN-Account to chat with other MSN-User ?
I guess yes. So if I meet in real life a friend, which is on a Messenger
I do not hav, I need to create a account to chat with him ?
Here I see great potential.
As you know:
GUI = Grafic User Interface,
but in the gnutella world you also have the term
GUID: GENERAL USER ID
Each Client has a unique 128-bit-key on the net.
Think of a Onlinename, wich is not the AOL name, but a Gaim name you
choose (in a decentral way). So Gaim is just makeing a masquerade or a
kosmetic covering of all the different Onlinenames I am forced to creat
(see above, if a freind is on a different ntetwok, I do not have I am
forced to create an account ? Right?)
So if I have freinds on 5 Networks I need to be as well online with 5
There then the idea is, to have one name, which is a Name from Gaim.
This is chosen only in the GUI (so another user can choose this name as
well) BECAUSE behind the GUI-Name the GUID of the gnucleus is used for
So the model is:
GUID = 213878-29347-293848-2823
-> Used for a chat from Gaim to Gaim with an own protocol (Gnutella-chat
protocol, which is ip to ip)
-> AOL-Name xyz
-> AOL Name of Rob ABC
GUID (of Rob) = 0438-19847-23847-928374
-> Gaim GUI-Name "RobonGaim"
So nowerdays "ABC" is Chatting To "XYZ" via AOL and Oskar Protocol.
But if both use Gaim, THEN it is possible to chat from
"Closedshop-Gaim" to "RobonGaim" via the GUID-Identification and the
The GUI is then just masquerade of ABC and XYZ, if both are on Gaim,
The AOL names are covered up.
This IS workign because the Ip connection is only needed as a
Bootstrapper (first contact), but then the identification and the whole
prococol is handled over gnutella chat.
You need AOl only for the first initiation to get the ip.
G2 And Shareaza will offer in futuire as well to search directly for the
GUID on Gnutella, So you do not need a central server for the
But if you would make a cover-up-Gui with both, then you can use the
AOL-contact at ste start only to find the IP-adresses of both, but then
they chat over the GU-IDs.
This would be perfect, because you reduce the contacts to "oscar-server"
and need it only to the first handshake to get the Ip know of all the
buddies. And of course of going offline (no answer over GUID, this is
easy) and COMING ONLINE users (therefore as well you need the Central
So this is of course a leeching of aol, because two buddie sonly need
their Ip adress, but then can chat over the gnutella-GUID-IP-Transfer.
rezuming filetransport is available ? Hiow is this worling, AIM is not
offering and rezuming ?
And here see the same argumentation as above, How can a AIM user send a
ICQ- User a File ?
THIS IS ONLY WORKING OVER A THIRD PROTOCOL (GNUTELLA), was well as any
Gaim to Gaim communication could be private from ip to ip (over
GUID-Gnutella-Chat), NOT OVER THE CENTRAL OSKAR.
In future we will have a decentral buddy system whre only the GUIDs are
searched. The problem of someone is goin onlie is solved by a
Tit-for-tat staregy, this means i am only on your buddylist, if you are
on my too. And then, íf someone is going online, he is searching for his
own GUID on the net and announces then: I am On.
This could be pretty supported by Gaim, because the online going is
So for the strategy, Gaim only needs to decentralize the whole
communication over the GUID-IP-Identification-Text-Chat
I don´t know if this has been maild to all ?
I would be glad to get a short reply to this new thread and the idea of
an own Gaim-to-Gaim contact via Gnutella-chat-protocol and the Covering
of Central-Usernames with Identification by GUID and then a Maskqerading
this GUID by a choosen Onlinename in each Gaim Client.
So the GUID (if both have one, if both are on Gaim) is summarizing the
AOL name and the GUID is then covered up in the GUI with any chosen
Onlinename by the user.
So redundant onlienames on Gaim are possible, because the initial is the
central (aol) name and then the GUID is really used.
Thanks for comments !