On 7/11/06, Kevin M Stange <kevin@...> wrote:
> Stephen Eilert wrote:
> > On 7/11/06, Mark Doliner <mark@...> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:52:33 +0800, Allan Clark wrote
> >>> On 7/11/06, Mark Doliner <mark@...> wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:46:54 -0400 (EDT), Adil wrote
> >>>>> --- Mark Doliner <mark@...> wrote:
> >>>>>> I've been wondering what the overlay icons mean on
> >>>>>> this MSN buddy. There's a
> >>>>>> red X in the bottom right corner and there is a big
> >>>>>> circle with a slash
> >>>>>> through it. What do they mean?
> >>>>> The red X means the same as "Has you: No" in the
> >>>>> tooltip, ie. you are not in his/her buddylist. The
> >>>>> big-circle with a slash through it means you have
> >>>>> blocked the buddy.
> >>>> Alright, I removed the overlay icon for "has you." The information is still
> >>>> in the tooltip. I don't think it's very important for Gaim to show whether
> >>>> other people have you in their buddy list.
> >>> Possible to make this configurable? There seems to be a bit of a
> >>> split as to whether it should be there or not.
> >> Yes, it's possible, but unlikely. It's more likely that we would just add the
> >> X back in. However, that would only happen if many many many users complain
> >> that the feature is missing. Counting the number of people in favor versus
> >> the number of people against probably isn't very accurate in this case,
> >> because I don't think many people are going to say, "hey, this little red X is
> >> annoying the sap out of me!" It's more likely they would just see the little
> >> red X and not know what it means, and then they'll feel a little more
> >> alienated from Gaim. "Oh boy, this 'Gaim' program sure is complicated. So
> >> many doodads and thingamajigs! I'm going to go back to using Windows
> >> Messenger, where I feel safe and welcome."
> > This is getting a bit off-topic, but have you guys seen MSN Messenger
> > lately? Specially those new "live" versions. Now *that's* full of
> > doodads and thingamajigs. Not only that , many users add stuff like
> > "MSN Plus!", to get even more thingamajigs.
> As has been mentioned via various media, we do not attempt to clone
> every feature of modern messenger clients. There's no reason Gaim needs
> to incorporate features that those participating in the development find
> annoying, confusing, stupid, or pointless. Just because AIM, MSN or
> misc. messenger X are full of useless "doodads" and irritating
> "thingamajigs" does not automatically imply that they are a good idea.
The point I was trying to make was that Gaim is *not* full of
"thingamajigs", as you put it. Compared to official clients of any
protocol, it does offer the very basic IM functions (barely) and
nothing more. Exception made for the buddy pounces - most users I've
seen find them confusing, should they be removed?
Anyway, I will keep an eye on this list to see which personal patches
I'll be applying in the future.