Hmm Sourceforge mail list might be down again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Benny Simonsen" <benny_bs@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Re: Gumstix future
> Holly, That everything should be open is not what I require or expect. I
> would be happy to sign a NDA if I could get the schematic and thereby
> be able to solve the problems I have seen.
> When its impossible to get the schematic in any way I can't solve the
> problems and then there is only Gumstix to blame. I fully understand that
> there is problems with a new product, but if Gumstix don't have the time
> look at it I think it would be fair to give us the neccesary tools to
> it by ourself.
> When that is said I think Gordon (Gumstix) has answered questions rather
> fast, but when I during some time don't hear anything and nothing was
> updated on the web I would like to know if we would see more work from
> Gumstix side which could be used on the "old" stix.
> I have found another 237 euro PXA based board from Phytec which I probably
> want to check because schematic and all the interfaces are avalable.
> after I hear that resources (Craig) are working to improve the Gumstix I
> still think that it will be the best choice when small size is needed and
> serial / USB / I2C is enough. I also hope that this will give Gordon
> time to check / improve the HW.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Holly Gates" <hgates@...>
> To: <gumstix-users@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:38 PM
> Subject: [Gumstix-users] Re: Gumstix future
> > Benny, I think you are being a little hard on Gumstix, Inc. It seems
> > like people have taken gumstix press exposure and positioning as if it
> > was going to be a totally open project, like LART. I'm coming at it from
> > a different angle though; as a replacement for the Intrinsyc Cerfboard
> > (also a 400MHz xscale design with linux). The cerfboard does not come
> > with schematics either, and you have to pay real money to even send an
> > email to their linux guy, AND the boards cost $500 each. Maybe we would
> > all like it if Gumstix released the schematics open source and could
> > take the time to fix every software issue right away, not to mention
> > spend the few hours a day responding to people on the mailing list.
> > However, I think we ought to cut them a break. If you want schematics,
> > you can buy a manufactured version of an open design like LART or
> > Balloon2. These only get kitted and made every so often in smallish
> > batches and will cost you around 500-1k a board, and have different
> > features and form factor than gumstix.
> > I can understand people's frustration with weak documentation and
> > support, and the lack of schematics. But this is a very young board and
> > I don't think Gumstix the company has been around long or has had a
> > chance to grow much yet, so I think until very recently it has mostly
> > been Gordon planning builds, writing docs, doing software, responding to
> > email, maybe dealing with investors, etc. On the plus side for them, I
> > think they have enough docs out there to get people started and they do
> > provide a kerenel patch for mainline linux. Hopefully as time goes on,
> > we can get more complete documentation, better board support for power
> > management, etc. Right now they have something that works at an amazing
> > price, and I get the feeling they will act in good faith to continue
> > improving the developer resources for the board in the future.
> > I would say to people on this list, lets not just throw up our hands in
> > despair and give up on gumstix. Have some patience, and lets try to
> > develop the user community so we don't need to rely on Gumstix the
> > company for everything. Gordon is a busy guy, so I wouldn't take it
> > personally if he can't respond to everyone's pet issue on the mailing
> > list right away.
> > Anyway, just my $.02,
> > -Holly
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