Webware for Python

Hallo,
Shayne ONeill hat gesagt: // Shayne ONeill wrote:

> I *think* I included all the files. buzz me if it dont work you have
> patches or generally want to know how it works/wtf I was
> thinking/whatever.
> 
> I'm now adding code for roll backs and password protecting.

Very cute. I got it working here without problems, so it istn't
missing anything. For rendering you might want to take a look at Ian's
Wiki in webware-sandbox.sf.net, which uses docutils for formatting and
also already contains hooks for making links out of WikiWords. 

In the long run, I would suggest nicer URLs than the current CGIish
"mode=edit&page=newpage" scheme, so having some extra servlets like
"edit.py" and proper usage of HTTPRequest().extraURLPath() would be
really nice. 

And maybe later some showcasing of SQLObject or MiddleKit as DB
wrappers...

But nevertheless it's really cool already and easy to understand/read.

ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht                               _ ______footils.org__

Yeah. The thinking there is it all fits into a larger framework for
another project I'm on. So the slightly whacky template and text cleaning
system ties with that.

I had a look at docbook. I guess It looked like it'd take more than an
hour to wrap my head around so I did my normal bad habit of reinventing
some wheels.

Either way. It works.

Does anyone know how to somehow parse an url input as follows;-

Say I have this url

http://rararara/blah/wiki/frontpage
where blah is the project/container/whatever and wiki
points to wiki.pi

Is there a way to get this to work, so it executes wiki.py and passess the
frontpage part of the url to wiki.py?

--
Shayne O'Neill
http://perth.indymedia.org
I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."
 ----George W. Bush

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004, Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo,
> Shayne ONeill hat gesagt: // Shayne ONeill wrote:
>
> > I *think* I included all the files. buzz me if it dont work you have
> > patches or generally want to know how it works/wtf I was
> > thinking/whatever.
> >
> > I'm now adding code for roll backs and password protecting.
>
> Very cute. I got it working here without problems, so it istn't
> missing anything. For rendering you might want to take a look at Ian's
> Wiki in webware-sandbox.sf.net, which uses docutils for formatting and
> also already contains hooks for making links out of WikiWords.
>
> In the long run, I would suggest nicer URLs than the current CGIish
> "mode=edit&page=newpage" scheme, so having some extra servlets like
> "edit.py" and proper usage of HTTPRequest().extraURLPath() would be
> really nice.
>
> And maybe later some showcasing of SQLObject or MiddleKit as DB
> wrappers...
>
> But nevertheless it's really cool already and easy to understand/read.
>
> ciao
> --
>  Frank Barknecht                               _ ______footils.org__
>
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Hallo,
Shayne ONeill hat gesagt: // Shayne ONeill wrote:

> Does anyone know how to somehow parse an url input as follows;-
> 
> Say I have this url
> 
> http://rararara/blah/wiki/frontpage
> where blah is the project/container/whatever and wiki
> points to wiki.pi
> 
> Is there a way to get this to work, so it executes wiki.py and passess the
> frontpage part of the url to wiki.py?

Yes, I use this extensively for example on http://normalmailorder.de 
I use Page.awake somehow like this:

	def awake(self, trans):
		Page.awake(self, trans)
		self._extra =self.request().extraURLPath().split('/') 

Now "extra" holds a list of all path components after the servlet
name, but no query-parameters (i.e. no "?edit=true")

You need to enable extraURL-parsing in Application.config first.

ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht                               _ ______footils.org__

Marvelous. Thankyou :)

--
Shayne O'Neill
http://perth.indymedia.org
I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."
 ----George W. Bush

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004, Frank Barknecht wrote:

> Hallo,
> Shayne ONeill hat gesagt: // Shayne ONeill wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know how to somehow parse an url input as follows;-
> >
> > Say I have this url
> >
> > http://rararara/blah/wiki/frontpage
> > where blah is the project/container/whatever and wiki
> > points to wiki.pi
> >
> > Is there a way to get this to work, so it executes wiki.py and passess the
> > frontpage part of the url to wiki.py?
>
> Yes, I use this extensively for example on http://normalmailorder.de
> I use Page.awake somehow like this:
>
> 	def awake(self, trans):
> 		Page.awake(self, trans)
> 		self._extra =self.request().extraURLPath().split('/')
>
> Now "extra" holds a list of all path components after the servlet
> name, but no query-parameters (i.e. no "?edit=true")
>
> You need to enable extraURL-parsing in Application.config first.
>
> ciao
> --
>  Frank Barknecht                               _ ______footils.org__
>
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* Andreas Poisel <a.poisel@...> [040403 11:51]:
> * Todd Grimason <todd@...> [040403 01:50]:
> > One vote for webwareforpython.org
> 
> Maybe with wwfp.org as an alias name?

Sorry, it's already taken (word wall for peace). But a short alias name
would be comfortable. Or did you ever type 'webware.sourceforge.net'
instead of 'webware.sf.net'?

-- 
Andi

Hallo,
Andreas Poisel hat gesagt: // Andreas Poisel wrote:

> * Andreas Poisel <a.poisel@...> [040403 11:51]:
> > * Todd Grimason <todd@...> [040403 01:50]:
> > > One vote for webwareforpython.org
> > 
> > Maybe with wwfp.org as an alias name?
> 
> Sorry, it's already taken (word wall for peace). But a short alias name
> would be comfortable. Or did you ever type 'webware.sourceforge.net'
> instead of 'webware.sf.net'?

Soem more shorty-tests:

$ host w4py.org
Host w4py.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
$ host ww4py.org
Host ww4py.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
$ host wwpy.org
Host wwpy.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
$ host web4py.org          
Host web4py.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

Take your pick.

ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht                               _ ______footils.org__

* Frank Barknecht <fbar@...> [040403 13:30]:

> Soem more shorty-tests:
> 
> $ host w4py.org
> Host w4py.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
> $ host ww4py.org
> Host ww4py.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
> $ host wwpy.org
> Host wwpy.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
> $ host web4py.org          
> Host web4py.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
> 
> Take your pick.

I prefer the webwareforpython.org / wwpy.org combination. I'm not a fan
of the '4' in the name either. But I could live with any of them.

-- 
Andi

I'm gunna throw together a quick wiki servlet (I need it infact for
another project anyway). I'll report back later today with a prototype.

--
Shayne O'Neill
http://perth.indymedia.org
I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."
 ----George W. Bush

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Jason Hildebrand wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Shane was quick on the draw and so were the folks at tummy.com.  Our new
> virtual server is up and running:
>
>     http://198.49.126.114/
>
> I'll spend some time tomorrow setting it up.  After that I'll create
> accounts for anyone who wants to work on the website or use it for other
> project-related purposes.
>
> Please continue to post domain name votes & ideas; I plan to register
> something in the next day or two.
>
> peace,
> Jason
>
> --
> Jason D. Hildebrand
> jason@...
>
>
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On Apr 2, 2004, at 8:13 PM, Shayne ONeill wrote:
> I'm gunna throw together a quick wiki servlet (I need it infact for
> another project anyway). I'll report back later today with a prototype.

You should look at this:
    
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/docutils/sandbox/ianb/ 
wiki/Wiki.py?content-type=text%2Fplain&rev=1.2

which is simple object interfaces around reST for a Wiki page.  For the  
Webware site it would be nice to also be able to write pure HTML (when  
you want to be exact about layout), and it occurred to me that  
pure-Python pages would be nice too (as a kind of simplified way to  
share code).  And images.  Then with transclusion (which is just the  
fancy Wiki way of describing the feature wherein you can include the  
content of one page in another) they might all go together in a nice  
way.

> --
> Shayne O'Neill
> http://perth.indymedia.org

And a shout out from Chicago Indymedia!

--
Ian Bicking | ianb@... | http://blog.ianbicking.org

Ah! Tiny world! Far out.

I'm actually using webware as the basis of the activismo mk #2 codebase
for perth indy (verry much a work in progress).

http://a2.perthimc.asn.au/a2/ <==much bustedness, but actually already
usable. (data on it just lifted from production mk #1 site)  Check
newswire and the tutorial to see where we are heading with this :)

Anyway... I sorta have it half done atm, so I'll look at that after I
finish this bita code off.

--
Shayne O'Neill
http://perth.indymedia.org
I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."
 ----George W. Bush

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Ian Bicking wrote:

> On Apr 2, 2004, at 8:13 PM, Shayne ONeill wrote:
> > I'm gunna throw together a quick wiki servlet (I need it infact for
> > another project anyway). I'll report back later today with a prototype.
>
> You should look at this:
>
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/docutils/sandbox/ianb/
> wiki/Wiki.py?content-type=text%2Fplain&rev=1.2
>
> which is simple object interfaces around reST for a Wiki page.  For the
> Webware site it would be nice to also be able to write pure HTML (when
> you want to be exact about layout), and it occurred to me that
> pure-Python pages would be nice too (as a kind of simplified way to
> share code).  And images.  Then with transclusion (which is just the
> fancy Wiki way of describing the feature wherein you can include the
> content of one page in another) they might all go together in a nice
> way.
>
> > --
> > Shayne O'Neill
> > http://perth.indymedia.org
>
> And a shout out from Chicago Indymedia!
>
> --
> Ian Bicking | ianb@... | http://blog.ianbicking.org
>
>
>
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Ladies and gentlenman;-

http://a2.perthimc.asn.au/a2/wiki

Completely implemented from scratch in webware.

Note the homebrewed structured text implementation is a little different
to others;-

I'll post the code tarball soon. If its not working for you, its probably
cos its mid-implementation.

--
Shayne O'Neill
http://perth.indymedia.org
I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."
 ----George W. Bush

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Ian Bicking wrote:

> On Apr 2, 2004, at 8:13 PM, Shayne ONeill wrote:
> > I'm gunna throw together a quick wiki servlet (I need it infact for
> > another project anyway). I'll report back later today with a prototype.
>
> You should look at this:
>
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/docutils/sandbox/ianb/
> wiki/Wiki.py?content-type=text%2Fplain&rev=1.2
>
> which is simple object interfaces around reST for a Wiki page.  For the
> Webware site it would be nice to also be able to write pure HTML (when
> you want to be exact about layout), and it occurred to me that
> pure-Python pages would be nice too (as a kind of simplified way to
> share code).  And images.  Then with transclusion (which is just the
> fancy Wiki way of describing the feature wherein you can include the
> content of one page in another) they might all go together in a nice
> way.
>
> > --
> > Shayne O'Neill
> > http://perth.indymedia.org
>
> And a shout out from Chicago Indymedia!
>
> --
> Ian Bicking | ianb@... | http://blog.ianbicking.org
>
>

Well, I too have lurked around for quite a while... I suppose that I 
should pipe up as well.  I like the 'webwareforpython.org' .
Also, I supose, now that i am done with school that i should finish up 
the first release of pyNuke (shameless plug). :)

-Andy

Hancock, David (DHANCOCK) wrote:

>This long-time lurker also votes for webwareforpython.org.  The '4' is a
>little too cutesy for my taste.  "Webware for Python" has  been the name of
>the toolkit for quite some time.
>
>I'm glad to see some renewed interest in Webware; I hope I can find a way to
>contribute.
>
>Cheers!
>--
>David Hancock | dhancock@... | 410-266-4384 
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Todd Grimason [mailto:todd@...] 
>Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 6:39 PM
>To: webware-discuss
>Subject: Re: [Webware-discuss] webwareforpython.org
>
>
>One vote for webwareforpython.org
>
>If the '4' version is chosen, does that mean all references in the
>docs/site/elsewhere will use the digit too? Or just the domain? I
>think having them both the same is the way to go.
>
>Repetition is good for this type of thing.
>
>  
>