Manfred Nowak <mn@...> wrote:
> > WebKit from your home directory, and is willing to make any
> > necessary modifications to their webserver configuration file.
> > There are not many ISPs at present willing to do this.
> What are these modifications?
> sorry, I'm a WebNewbie :-(
First prerequisite -- you have to have shell access to the ISP.
If you use the CGIAdapter they don't have to make any real
modifications to the webserver, except to get rid of the extra part of
the URL (like http://mydomain.com/cgi-bin/CGIAdapter.cgi/real/url =>
http://mydomain.com/real/url), which you can do with mod_rewrite.
Many hosts already have this installed, and if they don't they should,
because it's a generally useful tool. With mod_rewrite you can put
stuff in your .htaccess file to control the URLs.
But the real problem is having the AppServer running at all times. A
lot of hosts simply don't allow you to have applications run all the
time. Maybe you can find one that does.
And then, well, I still haven't seen a good solution to making sure
the AppServer is always up, without manual intervention. I'm
supposing you could do something like:
% nohup ./AppServer > /dev/null
That doesn't seem nearly robust enough for me. But this should run
the AppServer in the background, and keep it running after you log
out. Your ISP may very well kill the AppServer automatically, though,
or if they are lower tech simply get mad at you when they see it
has run for a few days.
> I have copied CGIWrapper , WebKit ,WebUtils and MiscUtils to my ISP.
> CGIWrapper Examples works fine !
> The only problem is to start the AppServer for WebKit.
> Can i do that from within WebKit.cgi or must my ISP start this?
You can't do it in WebKit.cgi, but you can do it like I said above.
> am I the only one who want to use Webware over an ISP ?
I certainly would like to be able to do it, but I think I've resolved
that I'll need to go with a virtual private server. Someone suggested
several of these some months ago, but a search on geocrawler gives me
nothing. Which is always the case -- making me believe that
geocrawler is rather defective and generally useless.
But, I digress. One example of a VPS host is at:
Otherwise it is really necessary to find someone who is willing
specifically to host Webware, probably at a higher rate. This is
pretty much the case if you want to run Zope, which is a fairly
If you find someone, please tell -- the website should list them.