Unattended, A Windows deployment system

The make a donation link you are harping on about, what other link on the
site requests a donation?

-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Jose Pablos [mailto:juanjo@...] 
Sent: 18 March 2008 18:15
To: kerravon
Cc: unattended-info@...
Subject: Re: [Unattended] Password

kerravon escribió:
> That link is for the gentlemen who hosts
> the site and files. 

before going father on this issue. What link are you talking about?

I, for one, am genuinely disappointed to hear that, but I can't say that I 
blame you. I don't think that I would appreciate the accusations either. I 
*DO* appreciate your effort, and I think it is a worthy effort. Am I alone 
here?

Although I have not yet had the time and experience to look into the VM 
myself, I understand it's a very exciting mixing of technologies. 

 






"kerravon" <kerravon@...>
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03/18/2008 01:59 PM

 
        To:     "'Juan Jose Pablos'" <juanjo@...>
        cc:     unattended-info@...
        Subject:        Re: [Unattended] Password


Due to your false accusations and incorrect assumptions the downloads are
suspended the only way now to get the VM is directly through me.
I hope this makes you all happy, shame none of you showed such interest in
the project when I first started it.

Here's hoping you all choke on your own crap.

-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Jose Pablos [mailto:juanjo@...]
Sent: 18 March 2008 07:22
To: Jimmy Åhs; kerravon@...
Cc: unattended-info@...
Subject: Re: [Unattended] Password

Kerravon99,

I do not like much the idea of asking for password in return for money
or whatever you are asking in exchange... at the same time I would like
to live in the ignorance that how many people use the software without
returning back a bit for the project in a form of docs/removing spam
from wiki/or providing help to others/informing about new release of
open source software.

Having a VM is just a matter of clicks so easy.
So for people that wants just a download page and a few clicks.
Could you make sure that people stop asking for a password ?

Thank you!


Jimmy Åhs escribió:
> Hi, may I have the password for the Unattended VM rar or zip please.
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kerravon escribió:
> Due to your false accusations and incorrect assumptions the downloads are
> suspended the only way now to get the VM is directly through me.

you said on the 04/03/2008:
"I AM NOT, I REPEAT NOT asking for a donation for this software.The 
donation is there for brett  who is hosting the site."

My understanding is that you are asking for donation to help the 
hosting. I did not make any incorrect assumptions. I did ask you to make 
sure people stop asking on thie list for password that it all.

> I hope this makes you all happy, shame none of you showed such interest in
> the project when I first started it.
> 
> Here's hoping you all choke on your own crap.
> 

I think that you took it on the wrong way

The files are mine the site is not hence assumptions are wrong!!!!!!
No further correspondence will be entered into

-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Jose Pablos [mailto:juanjo@...] 
Sent: 18 March 2008 19:39
To: kerravon
Cc: unattended-info@...
Subject: Re: [Unattended] Password

kerravon escribió:
> Due to your false accusations and incorrect assumptions the downloads are
> suspended the only way now to get the VM is directly through me.

you said on the 04/03/2008:
"I AM NOT, I REPEAT NOT asking for a donation for this software.The 
donation is there for brett  who is hosting the site."

My understanding is that you are asking for donation to help the 
hosting. I did not make any incorrect assumptions. I did ask you to make 
sure people stop asking on thie list for password that it all.

> I hope this makes you all happy, shame none of you showed such interest in
> the project when I first started it.
> 
> Here's hoping you all choke on your own crap.
> 

I think that you took it on the wrong way

Kerravon99,

I do not like much the idea of asking for password in return for money 
or whatever you are asking in exchange... at the same time I would like 
to live in the ignorance that how many people use the software without 
returning back a bit for the project in a form of docs/removing spam 
from wiki/or providing help to others/informing about new release of 
open source software.

Having a VM is just a matter of clicks so easy.
So for people that wants just a download page and a few clicks.
Could you make sure that people stop asking for a password ?

Thank you!


Jimmy Åhs escribió:
> Hi, may I have the password for the Unattended VM rar or zip please.
> ________________________________
> Jimmy
> 
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Nagilum escribió:
> Hi Juan
> 
> as I'm also reading that mails every week, I thought about just bruteforcing
> ist.
> But I'm not sure if it's a good Idea to do that and publishing the pw here.
> What do you think about it?
> 
well, I am not against people putting password on their files, but with 
the fact that we are receiving mails that are not related to us.

As a side effect those users do not know how it was build so they are a 
bit father from the project. The closer they are on the code the easier 
to help an improved. getting our hands dirty make it a better project :-)


> A tool for that is available.
> 
are you talking about Alec Muffett's toy?  I knew him when i was at Sun. 
But I do not know if there are other tools outthere.

Read previous mails, I offer the password freely to people who ask, I do not
request money in any shape or form. That link is for the gentlemen who hosts
the site and files. Get your facts right before accusing me of asking for
money. I am getting very F*&$ked of with the false accusations.

Kerravon99

-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Jose Pablos [mailto:juanjo@...] 
Sent: 18 March 2008 07:22
To: Jimmy Åhs; kerravon@...
Cc: unattended-info@...
Subject: Re: [Unattended] Password

Kerravon99,

I do not like much the idea of asking for password in return for money 
or whatever you are asking in exchange... at the same time I would like 
to live in the ignorance that how many people use the software without 
returning back a bit for the project in a form of docs/removing spam 
from wiki/or providing help to others/informing about new release of 
open source software.

Having a VM is just a matter of clicks so easy.
So for people that wants just a download page and a few clicks.
Could you make sure that people stop asking for a password ?

Thank you!


Jimmy Åhs escribió:
> Hi, may I have the password for the Unattended VM rar or zip please.
> ________________________________
> Jimmy
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft
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> 
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Due to your false accusations and incorrect assumptions the downloads are
suspended the only way now to get the VM is directly through me.
I hope this makes you all happy, shame none of you showed such interest in
the project when I first started it.

Here's hoping you all choke on your own crap.

-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Jose Pablos [mailto:juanjo@...] 
Sent: 18 March 2008 07:22
To: Jimmy Åhs; kerravon@...
Cc: unattended-info@...
Subject: Re: [Unattended] Password

Kerravon99,

I do not like much the idea of asking for password in return for money 
or whatever you are asking in exchange... at the same time I would like 
to live in the ignorance that how many people use the software without 
returning back a bit for the project in a form of docs/removing spam 
from wiki/or providing help to others/informing about new release of 
open source software.

Having a VM is just a matter of clicks so easy.
So for people that wants just a download page and a few clicks.
Could you make sure that people stop asking for a password ?

Thank you!


Jimmy Åhs escribió:
> Hi, may I have the password for the Unattended VM rar or zip please.
> ________________________________
> Jimmy
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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On Mar 18, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Regis Gras wrote:

> Michael De Groote wrote:
>
>> the problem lies in the limitations of the 8.3 filenames, as used by
>> dosemu (since the winnt installer that copies over the files runs
>> inside dosemu)
>> The alternative installer (nt5x-install) should fix this, but it's not
>> yet included in 4.7
>> There is a post on the mailinglist archives that contains a link to an
>> iso image + install.tar.gz that provides the alternative installer.
>>
> In January, I had a problem with 8.3.3 filename.
> You advise me to use nt5x-install.
> I downloaded this patch from  
> http://www.source-exchange.de/unattended/nils/
> Indeed, this pach fix the problem.
>
> Today, I want to install a Dell Optiplex 755. Unfortunately, the  
> network
> card is not
> recognized.
> So, from the official unattended-4.7, I recompiled a kernel including
> the network driver.
> After a lot of problems with samba (finaly, I compiled samba-3.0.20
> instead of 3.0.27)
> the kernel is working.
> The network card is recognized and //ntinstall/install is mounted on /Z
>
> And now .... I have again problem with 8.3.3 file name.
>
> As you said, this alternative installer is not yet included in 4.7
>
> I do not found any nt5x-install with google
> On http://www.source-exchange.de/unattended/nils/ I do'nt see how to
> compile a kernel
>
> Do you know how to do to install nt5x-install in the official
> unattended-4.7 ?


I got around the 8.3 filename issue by using a $$Rename.txt file saved  
in my distribution share.


http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/3d64370b-d9bf 
-4a31-abcf-6f1da86ef8641033.mspx?mfr=true has details on using a  
$$Rename.txt file but I'm not sure if it's 100% accurate. It didn't  
work when I had the $$Rename.txt in the same folder as the long  
filename. It worked when I saved it in $oem$\$1\$$Rename.txt. The file  
specified where the long file was, what the name was being truncated to  
and what it should be renamed as:

[\drivers\V1400\03\R165797]
IGMED~V3.DLL="igmedcompkrn.dll"

Tirsdag 18 mars 2008 15:18, skrev Regis Gras:
> After a lot of problems with samba (finaly, I compiled samba-3.0.20
> instead of 3.0.27)

I used "security = share" to get my samba share working with the newer 
unattended linuxboot.
I dont know if that will help, but is worth mentioning.

> As you said, this alternative installer is not yet included in 4.7
>
I really hope we can get a new release out soon :-)

> I do not found any nt5x-install with google
> On http://www.source-exchange.de/unattended/nils/ I do'nt see how to
> compile a kernel
>
> Do you know how to do to install nt5x-install in the official
> unattended-4.7 ?

I posted updated patches to -devel last night.
They are against current cvs, and Im not sure if they apply on 4.7.

But anyway, a quick and dirty "smørbrødliste":

- Pick a good directory for the CVS build:
nils@...$ mkdir 2008-03-18
nils@...$ cd 2008-03-18

- login to CVS (in one line):
cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@... 
login

(just hit enter when asked for password)

-download from CVS (in one line):
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@... 
co -P unattended

You now have downloaded the unattended build-source from CVS :)

While standing in the same directory:
extract the .tar.gz into the unattended directory structure
(adds the ntldr binaries and the nt5x-install script to the unattended tree)
and apply the patches.

apply the 3 patches like this:
patch -p0 <altdosemu-xxx.patch

Now you are ready to do a "make download"

After the package download is done, add your tweaks to the kernel

 And finally:
"make" or "make iso" or "make tftpboot"
in the linuxboot directory.


Please note:
There are several new upgraded packages in CVS now and they are largely 
untested.
Also, busybox will probably ask a lot of questions.
I hope this will be somewhat helpful :-)

David Wadson wrote:

>On Mar 18, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Regis Gras wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Michael De Groote wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>the problem lies in the limitations of the 8.3 filenames, as used by
>>>dosemu (since the winnt installer that copies over the files runs
>>>inside dosemu)
>>>The alternative installer (nt5x-install) should fix this, but it's not
>>>yet included in 4.7
>>>There is a post on the mailinglist archives that contains a link to an
>>>iso image + install.tar.gz that provides the alternative installer.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>In January, I had a problem with 8.3.3 filename.
>>You advise me to use nt5x-install.
>>I downloaded this patch from  
>>http://www.source-exchange.de/unattended/nils/
>>Indeed, this pach fix the problem.
>>
>>Today, I want to install a Dell Optiplex 755. Unfortunately, the  
>>network
>>card is not
>>recognized.
>>So, from the official unattended-4.7, I recompiled a kernel including
>>the network driver.
>>After a lot of problems with samba (finaly, I compiled samba-3.0.20
>>instead of 3.0.27)
>>the kernel is working.
>>The network card is recognized and //ntinstall/install is mounted on /Z
>>
>>And now .... I have again problem with 8.3.3 file name.
>>
>>As you said, this alternative installer is not yet included in 4.7
>>
>>I do not found any nt5x-install with google
>>On http://www.source-exchange.de/unattended/nils/ I do'nt see how to
>>compile a kernel
>>
>>Do you know how to do to install nt5x-install in the official
>>unattended-4.7 ?
>>    
>>
>
>
>I got around the 8.3 filename issue by using a $$Rename.txt file saved  
>in my distribution share.
>
>
>http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/3d64370b-d9bf 
>-4a31-abcf-6f1da86ef8641033.mspx?mfr=true has details on using a  
>$$Rename.txt file but I'm not sure if it's 100% accurate. It didn't  
>work when I had the $$Rename.txt in the same folder as the long  
>filename. It worked when I saved it in $oem$\$1\$$Rename.txt. The file  
>specified where the long file was, what the name was being truncated to  
>and what it should be renamed as:
>
>[\drivers\V1400\03\R165797]
>IGMED~V3.DLL="igmedcompkrn.dll"
>
>  
>
I have a lot of file with xxx.3.3 filename. (Exactly 32)
[node1]-root# ll *.???.???
-rw-r--r--  1 admin admin   1355 Mar  3 14:02 ADMPARSE.DLL.MU_
...............................................................................................................
-rw-r--r--  1 admin admin   9526 Mar  3 14:05 WININET.DLL.MU_

and the installer complains for each file.

For an example, ADMPARSE.DLL.MU_ appears in DOSNET.INF
[Files]
..........................
d1,admparse.dll.mui

and in TXTSETUP.SIF
[SourceDisksFiles.x86]
.......................................
dmparse.dll.mui = 1,,,,,,,1974,0,0

What must be the content of  $oem$\$1\$$Rename.txt  ?   (Just for 
admparse.dll.mui)
and what are the modifications to do in DOSNET.INF  and TXTSETUP.SIF

Régis

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Juan Jose Pablos wrote:

> Regis Gras escribió:
>
>>
>>     I downloaded unattended-4.7.zip from unattended.sourceforge.net
>>     I changed the driver E1000, and recompiled the kernel.
>>     The kernel was compiled, without any error
>>
>
> could you give it a try with the version on the repository?  It is a 
> strange error. The libcap library was removed because is not longer 
> requiered.
>
You said that libcap was removed.
You are right, all references of libcap il the Makefiles are in comment.

[maguelone]-rgras# cd unattended-4.7
[maguelone]-rgras# find . -name ?akefile -exec grep libcap {} \;
# libcap.so is required by smbclient
#libcap=libcap-1.10
## libcap (just libcap.so.1, required for samba)
#$(libcap)/.stamp-libcap-patch: misc/libcap-patch
#       cd $(libcap) && patch -b -p1 < $(cwd)/$<
#$(libcap)/libcap/libcap.so.1: build-$(glibc)/libc.so 
$(libcap)/.stamp-libcap-patch
#       cd $(libcap)                                            \
#       && make IFLAGS="$(fakelib_cflags) -I$(libcap)/libcap/include" 
LDFLAGS="$(fakelib_cflags)"
#$(call copy_lib,$(libcap)/libcap/libcap.so.1,stage1/lib/libcap.so.1)
#stage1 += stage1/lib/libcap.so.1

Perhaps the compiling failed ...
So, I remove all          samba-3.0.27a, and then:
make download
make tftpboot
No error, but always the same problem
I do'nt understand why  **** Failed to mount  /z

Any idea ?

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