I. don't think there have been many changes since then (if any).
I can always use the help!
I'll figure out how to get a CVS going so we can keep the project current.
Thanks,
Pete
Richard Houston wrote:
>No problem. We have a Java developer her who got the code you posted a few
>months ago working and I am sure we can help out getting things ironed
>out.
>
>We found a few issue and are interested in seeing the newest version.
>Maybe our Java guy can give you a had with some coding.
>
>
>
>
>Best regards,
>+------------------------------------------+
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>
>
>On Tue, October 18, 2005 11:19 am, Pete Helgren wrote:
>
>
>>Well, I can't guarantee that it is at "project ready" status yet. Still
>>plenty to do. I would consider this more at the Alpha level than Beta.
>>
>>I'll send the link when it is ready...
>>
>>
>>Pete
>>
>>
>>
>>Richard Houston wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>That would be great! I have a project that we could really use this
>>>for.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>+------------------------------------------+
>>>| Richard Houston .^. |
>>>| R.L.H. Consulting /V\ |
>>>| E-Mail <rhouston@...> /( )\ |
>>>| WWW <www.rlhc.net> ^^-^^ |
>>>+------------------------------------------+
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, October 17, 2005 10:36 am, Pete Helgren wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Richard,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'll see if I can get a site up with some info and with a download
>>>>and setup instructions.
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Richard Houston wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hey Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Your right, it is way more then just htmling the green screen, but
>>>>>in it's most basic form that is one of the things it can do. We had
>>>>>to do several labs at the tech preview I was talking about and I was
>>>>>able to get a bunch of the "cool" HATS features going and I am not a
>>>>>programmer at all. Licensing is not all that bad as well if you
>>>>>already are using WebSphere.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>For my client we are looking at just what web5250 is doing. Can I
>>>>>get a copy of the latest code and a quick how to set it up?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Best regards,
>>>>>+------------------------------------------+
>>>>>| Richard Houston .^. |
>>>>>| R.L.H. Consulting /V\ |
>>>>>| E-Mail <rhouston@...> /( )\ |
>>>>>| WWW <www.rlhc.net> ^^-^^ |
>>>>>+------------------------------------------+
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, October 14, 2005 2:37 pm, Pete Helgren wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Richard,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>HATS and Web5250 are a little different from one another.
>>>>>>Web5250 is
>>>>>>more like iSeries Access for Web, which I finally saw at Common
>>>>>>last month in Orlando. Web5250 presents a "green screen" in a
>>>>>>browser, pretty much all. Now, iSeries Access for Web does a
>>>>>>heckofalot more than that, but basically, that is it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Screen shot like so: (I can't remember if they will display on
>>>>>>the list or not so I'll try it):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That is really all the Web5250 is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I need to get a live link established and get my website updated
>>>>>>to show where this project is. But, the concept is 5250 in a
>>>>>>browser. HATS (I
>>>>>>think) is more "invasive" in the look and feel area.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pete
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Richard Houston wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just wanted to chiming on this topic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I was at a proof of technologies at IBM here on HATS
>>>>>>>http://www-306.ibm.com/software/webservers/hats/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It basically turns the 5250 screens into pure HTML. The
>>>>>>>development env only works on windows right now which suck for m
>>>>>>>400 based
>>>>>>>client as they run Linux on the desktop. Nice this about hats is
>>>>>>> that there is no code changes required on the 400 side. You
>>>>>>>can customize the layout and such as well so it can look nothing
>>>>>>>like your green screen apps at all. Kind of cool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I, personally, would like to see some sort of OSS version out
>>>>>>>there and I think this is what web5250 we aiming for. Maybe with
>>>>>>>enough effort web5250 could do the same. Just a thought.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Best regards,
>>>>>>>+------------------------------------------+
>>>>>>>| Richard Houston .^. |
>>>>>>>| R.L.H. Consulting /V\ |
>>>>>>>| E-Mail <rhouston@...> /( )\ |
>>>>>>>| WWW <www.rlhc.net> ^^-^^ |
>>>>>>>+------------------------------------------+
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, October 14, 2005 9:48 am, Pete Helgren wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks Wim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This sounds "exactly" like what I had in mind a couple of
>>>>>>>>years ago. Seems to me that the "mapping" concept would be
>>>>>>>>fairly straight-forward (probably a lot harder to do than it
>>>>>>>>sounded...) This
>>>>>>>>is very cool and Swing would be a good fit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Have you looked at Java Server Faces at all? I saw a demo of
>>>>>>>>a JSF
>>>>>>>>app that looked very "Swing-like" but was all HTML and mostly
>>>>>>>>a server side implementation. I have been meaning to take a
>>>>>>>>look at it in more detail and see how difficult the coding is.
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>JSP/Struts/Tiles
>>>>>>>>approach has always been too complex to me and JSF *seemed* to
>>>>>>>> simplify that. I need to take a look at it soon but it
>>>>>>>>might give you a richer-looking UI without the client side
>>>>>>>>hassles of Swing. Mapping
>>>>>>>>to JSF components might be a possibility. I'll look into it
>>>>>>>>when I
>>>>>>>>have a chance to see what you are doing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>One other idea I had in the "screen scraping" area was a
>>>>>>>>"static"
>>>>>>>>mapping option that would allow you to actually change the
>>>>>>>>component layout at the client end. Rather than doing the
>>>>>>>>transformation on the fly, you could create "map file" and
>>>>>>>>use that instead. Not sure how to implement that though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks for the information on the code pages and the good
>>>>>>>>news on the code page support in JT400. That should take care
>>>>>>>>of it!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Look forward to hearing more about the screen scraper....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Pete Helgren
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Wim.Van.Leuven@... wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hello Pete,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>great to hear some acitivity from this corner.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The screenscraper works for one of our customers and is
>>>>>>>>>tailored to their screen layouts. Still have to do some
>>>>>>>>>bugfixes for them shortly, so I can send some screenshots on
>>>>>>>>>the list to give an idea to what it looks like. We were now
>>>>>>>>>discussing internally whether we were going to apply the
>>>>>>>>>scraper to our own screens, or build some kind of Swing gui
>>>>>>>>>components on top of the stream: a table for a subfile, a
>>>>>>>>>label for static text, a textfield for fields etc. The idea
>>>>>>>>>is to be able to build swing panels that read and write
>>>>>>>>>their data from the screen. The buttons and menu's would
>>>>>>>>>call function keys etc to do screen transitions and move to
>>>>>>>>>the next swing panel. What do you think? For us it is just
>>>>>>>>>to be able to quickly roll out GUIs until we find the time
>>>>>>>>>to reengineer the apps in full GUI apps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The 1200 codepage is provided in JT400. However I can not
>>>>>>>>>find the 1208. I wonder however if those are supported if
>>>>>>>>>they're not in de toolbox. Or are the numbers provider here
>>>>>>>>>not the AS/400 numberings?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>>wim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>*Pete Helgren <Pete@...>*
>>>>>>>>>Sent by: tn5250j-general-admin@...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>14/10/2005 15:41
>>>>>>>>>Please respond to
>>>>>>>>>tn5250j-general@...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>To
>>>>>>>>>TN5250J List <tn5250j-general@...>
>>>>>>>>>cc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Subject
>>>>>>>>>[Tn5250j-general] Checking in on the project
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Gee....been kinda quiet around here. Must mean we are all
>>>>>>>>>gainfully employed and busy?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>A couple of questions (just to blow the dust of the list!):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>1. Wim, a while back you talked about a screenscraper
>>>>>>>>>project you were involved in that used tn5250j components.
>>>>>>>>>Where are
>>>>>>>>>you on that? I'd love to know what you are doing in that
>>>>>>>>>area since I think tn5250j has some powerful tools in that
>>>>>>>>>would be useful.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>2. Also, in general, how hard is it to add code page
>>>>>>>>>support, specifically for 1200 and 1208? There was a post
>>>>>>>>>in midrange.com from someone looking for an emulator that
>>>>>>>>>supported those code pages. I didn't see it in the list of
>>>>>>>>>supported code pages (not in JT400 either). I'd like to help
>>>>>>>>>this guy out if I could, I just don't know how difficult it
>>>>>>>>>is to support other code pages.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Pete Helgren
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>P.S. Kenneth are you out there ? How is it going?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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