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Quoting Tomislav <tomislav.fuckar@...>:

>
> Hello everybody!
>
> Since nobody seems to have the driver for Realtek ALC662 audio chip used on
> Intel atom-based motherboard,

Did you try the snd-hda-intel module (although the ALC662 is possibly  
later than the one compiled in the stock 2.2.2)?
Your previous posts didn't indicate what you had/hadn't tried....

> I obviously need to compile it myself. Since I
> have never compiled anything for Thinstation (and also nothing for Linux at
> all for that matter) I need you help.

http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/thinstation/index.php?title=Developer:Home#Compiling
Or just click the Developer link on the left-hand menu of Thinstation.org
>
> I've downloaded the Linux driver from Realtek (LinuxPkg_5.10.tar.bz2) and I
> need your guidance from here onwards.
>
Not so sure that this will help that much (looking at the problems  
other distros have had with this driver..).

One other option is to try the 2.6.27.4 contributed kernel for 2.2.2  
(which includes the latest drivers for that kernel).

Good Luck
Trevor B

> Thank you in advance!
>
> P.S. I'm sorry if there is a FAQ about this matter somewhere but I couldn't
> find it.
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> > Hello everybody!
> >
> > Since nobody seems to have the driver for Realtek ALC662 audio chip used
> on
> > Intel atom-based motherboard,
> 
> Did you try the snd-hda-intel module (although the ALC662 is possibly  
> later than the one compiled in the stock 2.2.2)?
> Your previous posts didn't indicate what you had/hadn't tried....

Yes I have and it doesn't work.

> > I obviously need to compile it myself. Since I have never compiled
> anything for
> > Thinstation (and also nothing for Linux at all for that matter) I need
> you help.
> 
> http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/thinstation/index.php?title=Developer:Home#Compiling
> Or just click the Developer link on the left-hand menu of Thinstation.org

Thank you. I hope I will manage to compile something. :)

> > I've downloaded the Linux driver from Realtek (LinuxPkg_5.10.tar.bz2)
> and I
> > need your guidance from here onwards.
> 
> Not so sure that this will help that much (looking at the problems  
> other distros have had with this driver..).
> 
> One other option is to try the 2.6.27.4 contributed kernel for 2.2.2
> (which includes the latest drivers for that kernel).

So, you think that I shouldn't bother trying to compile the audio driver
myself
and should just upgrade the kernel?

BTW If I upgrade the kernel, I suppose that my video and network drivers
wouldn't
work anymore so I'm not sure that is such a good idea... :-S
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Quoting Tomislav <tomislav.fuckar@...>:

>
>>
>> Did you try the snd-hda-intel module (although the ALC662 is possibly
>> later than the one compiled in the stock 2.2.2)?
>
> Yes I have and it doesn't work.
>
Didn't think it was new enough to include the latest chipsets... but  
worth a try.
>
> So, you think that I shouldn't bother trying to compile the audio driver
> myself
> and should just upgrade the kernel?
>
You can try to compile your own if you are interested in a bit of  
learning.. :-)
But I was offering an alternative that includes a later snd-hda-intel  
module that may be easier for you to implement.

If you use the kernel upgrade path, just rename your <build  
dir>/kernel directory as kernel_old (or whatever) and then untar the  
new kernel package in the <build dir>.

To restore back to your original, just
cd <build dir>
rm -R kernel
mv kernel_old kernel
mv packages/base/lib/modules/2.6.27.4 packages/base/lib/modules/2.6.16.5

the last item may not be needed as you may still have the old link  
there (it's a weird symlink to negate the need to have all the modules  
under the lib/modules/<kernel version>/ hierarchy - but it causes more  
pain than it's worth - I think).

> BTW If I upgrade the kernel, I suppose that my video and network drivers
> wouldn't
> work anymore so I'm not sure that is such a good idea... :-S

The kernel upgrade includes all of the kernel modules (which includes  
the nics & sound cards etc.).

Video drivers are part of XOrg and not affected by the kernel upgrade.

Good Luck
Trevor B
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Sorry for not quoting the developer list on my first replay. Hit the
wrong key. Comments below.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Trevor Batley
<trevorbatley@...> wrote:
> Quoting "Mike Eriksen" <thinstation.mike@...>:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Trevor Batley
>> <trevorbatley@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I will start putting some of the key items (eg. kernel .config,
>>> busybox config) as soon as I can.
>>>
>>> Trevor B
>>
>> Please through in X 7.x. This will be a crucial component to 2.4 and
>> will need a lot of work.
>
> XOrg 7.3 is in 2.4 (and I'm looking at upgrading to 7.4).
>
> I haven't had ANY feedback on keyboard or language settings in 2.4, so have
> NO idea as to what else we need to do to get them running properly...

I had the impression that 2.4alpha was strictly English-only, so I
didn't even bother to try Danish. If that is mistaken, I'll try
tomorrow.

Otherwise I think it is a hen-egg situation - no one can contribute
before the source is available and the source won't evolve without
contributions!

Mike

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On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 02:15 +0100, Mike Eriksen wrote:
> Sorry for not quoting the developer list on my first replay. Hit the
> wrong key. Comments below.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Trevor Batley
> <trevorbatley@...> wrote:
> > Quoting "Mike Eriksen" <thinstation.mike@...>:
> >
> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Trevor Batley
> >> <trevorbatley@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I will start putting some of the key items (eg. kernel .config,
> >>> busybox config) as soon as I can.
> >>>
> >>> Trevor B
> >>
> >> Please through in X 7.x. This will be a crucial component to 2.4 and
> >> will need a lot of work.
> >
> > XOrg 7.3 is in 2.4 (and I'm looking at upgrading to 7.4).
> >
> > I haven't had ANY feedback on keyboard or language settings in 2.4, so have
> > NO idea as to what else we need to do to get them running properly...
> 
> I had the impression that 2.4alpha was strictly English-only, so I
> didn't even bother to try Danish. If that is mistaken, I'll try
> tomorrow.

No, damn English.... :-)

I know that en_us works, but have included all language / locale packs
as a 'best guess'. I am hoping that even if I have screwed up the
scripts / file locations, at least everything is there and it just needs
tweaking. If something is missing, then I can always do an update.

So if you could look at the keyboards and locales, I would appreciate
it.

> Otherwise I think it is a hen-egg situation - no one can contribute
> before the source is available and the source won't evolve without
> contributions!
> 
> Mike
> 
> > Trevor B
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Quoting "Martin Bérard" <mberard@...>:

> I have been trying to compile openchrome from svn at revision 730  
> that includes VX800 in the chrooted env of thinstation_src-2.3.
>
> I made a setup.sh similar to the other package and put my openchrome  
> folder in source.
>
> During the configure phase I get an error that the packagae  
> requirement where not met (xorg-server xproto fontsproto libdrm)
>
> I wish I could use the newest kernel 2.6.24.7, would you delta the  
> src of 2.3b1?

All of these refer to the version of xorg (which is 6.9 in TS2.3). It  
looks like the version of the openchrome driver only works with the  
later > 7.1 series.

Trevor B
>
> Should I use any --prefix?
>
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On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Alok Agarwal
<alok.agarwal@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> a UK TS-O-MATIC is now online at tsomatic.agarwal-associates.com. Please
> let me know if there are any problems/errors. At the moment only hosting
> version 2.2.2 but happy to add other versions if there is demand.

Excellent! I have added a link from thinstation.org.

Please make sure you have TSoMSite = "UK" in global.ini. This will
label bug reports so we now from where the issue arises.

Thanks a lot!

Mike

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Done!

Mike Eriksen wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Alok Agarwal
> <alok.agarwal@...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> a UK TS-O-MATIC is now online at tsomatic.agarwal-associates.com. Please
>> let me know if there are any problems/errors. At the moment only hosting
>> version 2.2.2 but happy to add other versions if there is demand.
> 
> Excellent! I have added a link from thinstation.org.
> 
> Please make sure you have TSoMSite = "UK" in global.ini. This will
> label bug reports so we now from where the issue arises.
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> Mike
> 
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On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Kenneth Power <kenneth.power@...> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> What server specs and bandwidth are necessary to host a TS-O-Matic service?
> I have a modest AMD XP 2000+ w/ 1 GB RAM ( or more, the RAM can be upgraded)
> server that I can offer as a USA mirror.

That machine will do nicely. Concerning band width a T1 (1 Mbit/s) is
probably minimum and as usual more is better. Disk space: 10-15 GB.

It would be nice to have a US mirror!

Mike

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On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Kenneth Power <kenneth.power@...> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Mike Eriksen <thinstation.mike@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Kenneth Power <kenneth.power@...>
>> wrote:
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> > What server specs and bandwidth are necessary to host a TS-O-Matic
>> > service?
>> > I have a modest AMD XP 2000+ w/ 1 GB RAM ( or more, the RAM can be
>> > upgraded)
>> > server that I can offer as a USA mirror.
>>
>> That machine will do nicely. Concerning band width a T1 (1 Mbit/s) is
>> probably minimum and as usual more is better. Disk space: 10-15 GB.
>>
>> It would be nice to have a US mirror!
>>
>> Mike
>
> I'm not certain what the bandwidth is, although I'm certain it is faster
> than a T1. I'll do some measurements on it.
>
> Additional questions:
>
> 1) Does the OS matter ( the machine currently runs Debian Etch) ?

No. Debian is fine. I used to use Etch but is now on Lenny. Doesn't matter.

> 2) Will I need to grant shell access to anyone?

No.

> 3) What software is necessary?

Apache, PHP, build tools (as mkisofs etc) and the usual minor stuff.

> If there is already a document explaining the requirements for mirror setup,
> please point me to it. That way I won't deluge you ( or the list ) with
> questions that are already answered.

I think it is so rare we get a new TS-O-Matic, and th TS-O-Matric
software has changed in between that there isn't a formal guide.
However, Trevor (the author of TSoM) a few days ago (less than a week)
gave instructions for a new german TSoM. Try to search that one. If
you can't find it, I'll try to dig it out from my messy inbox :-)

In that mentioned post of Trevors, there is also the download link to
the TSoM software.

Specific TSoM questions you can mail directly to me or Trevor
(trevorbatley AT users.sourceforge.net)

Mike


>
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On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Mike Eriksen <thinstation.mike@...:

> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Kenneth Power <kenneth.power@...>
> wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > What server specs and bandwidth are necessary to host a TS-O-Matic
> service?
> > I have a modest AMD XP 2000+ w/ 1 GB RAM ( or more, the RAM can be
> upgraded)
> > server that I can offer as a USA mirror.
>
> That machine will do nicely. Concerning band width a T1 (1 Mbit/s) is
> probably minimum and as usual more is better. Disk space: 10-15 GB.
>
> It would be nice to have a US mirror!
>
> Mike



I'm not certain what the bandwidth is, although I'm certain it is faster
than a T1. I'll do some measurements on it.

Additional questions:

1) Does the OS matter ( the machine currently runs Debian Etch) ?

2) Will I need to grant shell access to anyone?

3) What software is necessary?

If there is already a document explaining the requirements for mirror setup,
please point me to it. That way I won't deluge you ( or the list ) with
questions that are already answered.


Kenneth Power